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**Doomthumbs**

So I'm at the grocery store with my lady trying to decide how to skin mini-Doomthumbs for our impending romp in the hay.

And I notice on the box that it says that these condoms prevent against STIs. What the hell are those?
They're Sexually Transmitted Infections. When the hell did it change from diseases?
I mean, I knew it had changed from venerial disease to sexually transmitted disease, but when did it stop being called a disease?

Furthermore, does this make me a crusty old man now? Not crusty like THAT, I'm just using them to prevent my happy batter (glee gloop) from making more people. People that are gonna change the terminology when they come of age.

**Ma55ter_fett**

STI=bacterial infection
STD=viral infection

^I think

**whatwhat**

Quite a while. STI is more common now because you can still be infected without showing signs of the disease.

Ma55ter_fett wrote:STI=bacterial infection
STD=viral infection

^I think

No STDs are STIs it's just a broader term.

**Doomthumbs**

But you can still be diseased without showing signs of the disease, too. Why change it to an infection?

Obviously some are easier to detect than others. Some, like warts, I have no idea how that gets spread. During foreplay, if it feels like you're eating a braille copy of war and peace, stop doing that immediately. No matter how desperate you are. Because it can always be worse. Don't trade no sex now for no sex ever.

**whatwhat**

Yeh but it covers extra stuff which arent diseases. Like minge maggots and womb worms.

**Doomthumbs**

But those aren't diseases OR infections.

**whatwhat**

How do you know? I just made them up.

**Doomthumbs**

Well... maggots are the larval stage of other insects and worms are also not viruses or bacteria.
Nice alliteration on both though. But they're Crotch Crabs, not STDs (STI?)

**Elmodiddly**

An disease is generally. although not always, referred to as something which causes pain, dysfunction, distress, social problems or death. This can be due to may different things including injuries, disorders or infections.

An infection is normally described as the introduction of a microbial agent but the word disease can be a common reference to an infection that can be transferred to another.

**Albatross**

'Minge Maggots'.

Brilliant.

**Doomthumbs**

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Elmodiddly wrote:An disease is generally. although not always, referred to as something which causegg s pain, dysfunction, distress, social problems or death. This can be due to may different things including injuries, disorders or infections.

An infection is normally described as the introduction of a microbial agent but the word disease can be a common reference to an infection that can be transferred to another.

So they changed it because sex sometimes causes pain, dysfunction, distress, social problems or death, but not necessarily infection? Thats a bit scary.
Makes sense to me though. If you look at porn from 50 years ago and compare it to porn today, then extrapolate 50 years into the future, holy gak thats nasty stuff.

**Ahtman**

**Doomthumbs**

Thats awesome, and getting saved.
So I guess thats it then. The terminology has changed and everyone who knew them as STDs is now as quaint and outdated as we thought people who called them VD were.
Great. Just great.

**Elmodiddly**

When it changed I was half way through revision for an exam and the definitions changed for infection and disease classifications. OhmyfrackingGodwhy was not the right word for it but was close.

You had to be there.

Anyway, if you're going to shag it, bag it. Always a good motto to have.

**Monster Rain**

Condoms?

What are those?

**Elmodiddly**

They're similar to Haggis only they have smaller feet and live further up the slopes in the Highlainds of Scotland.

**Doomthumbs**

Highlainds... that reminds me of the time when I was asked by a Scottish nun if I'd found any good 'craic' since being in the country.

Those nuns throw down pretty hard, apparently.

**ShadowZetki**

First the tell me pluto is not a planet after saying for years it was, now they change STD into SDI!? This is an outrage! Why did I even bother with school

**Doomthumbs**

Next they'll have us convert to metric like the rest of the world uses (except Liberia, and Burma/Myanmar I believe, both super powerful nations lol). Base ten is good and all, but I like my 12 inches to a foot, 3 feet to a yard, 100 yards to a football feild.(Again, American football).

Whats next? "Ribbed for her pleasure" becomes "Costate for mutual enjoyment"?
I'm in a panic here, buying up all the ones that still say STD.
I do hope its still called hyperventilating.

**syanticraven**

Diseases and Infections can be caused by parasites too.

An infection is the species that has colonised and the disease is what that infection causes.

i.e. You have a Trichophyton rubrum Infection but the disease you have is Athletes foot.

STI = Treponema pallidum
STD = Syphilis

**Doomthumbs**

Well yeah, everyone knows that... ::tugs at collar::
But when did the change on the box happen? has to be fairly recent, did I miss some giant cock scandal that is causing this change?

I mean, I live on the internet. I havnt heard much about anything like that.

**Elmodiddly**

syanticraven wrote:Diseases and Infections can be caused by parasites too.

An infection is the species that has colonised and the disease is what that infection causes.

i.e. You have a Trichophyton rubrum Infection but the disease you have is Athletes foot.

STI = Treponema pallidum
STD = Syphilis

Athletes Foot is condition caused by the fungal infection genusTrichophyton, as you said, but it has two types, rubrum and mentagrophytes. Athletes Foot is not a disease, although it is classified as a communicable disease. There is a difference.

**snurl**

Doomthumbs wrote:Well yeah, everyone knows that... ::tugs at collar::
But when did the change on the box happen? has to be fairly recent, did I miss some giant cock scandal that is causing this change?

I mean, I live on the internet. I havnt heard much about anything like that.

It has always been there, printed in teeny tiny little letters at the open end of the rubber. Or maybe you've never had to unroll one that far?

**Jihadnik**

It happened about the same time Kentucky Fried Chicken became KFC and lemonade became Sprite...

Damn kids, get off my lawn!

**sebster**

I heard this a while back and scoffed at it, thinking it was a silly change. Then it was explained that lots of things aren't diseases, like crabs, so STI was a more accurate term for the whole group.

Fair enough, I said.

**Mr. Burning**

S'no big deal, so long as they provide the current level of protection.

STI encompasses a wide variety of issues. If the change encourages the use of 'preventatives' then its good thing.

**Doomthumbs**

sebster wrote:I heard this a while back and scoffed at it, thinking it was a silly change. Then it was explained that lots of things aren't diseases, like crabs, so STI was a more accurate term for the whole group.

Fair enough, I said.

How the HELL does a condom stave off crabs? They're pubic lice, man. Condom doesnt cover my curlies, where they would live if I wasn't monogamous and not all that worried about anything but the worst disease of all, babies.

snurl wrote:
It has always been there, printed in teeny tiny little letters at the open end of the rubber. Or maybe you've never had to unroll one that far?

Haha, I see what you did there. Maybe it could be said that you're an expert because you've seen so many up close and personal.

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But still, I'm searching for a date or an announcement it was changing, or did it really just phase in over time and I never saw it? Our HEB still has ones that say helps prevent STDs on them.
I don't want to think that they're just like, old condoms that our store is holding onto, selling the sudden overstock in ones that don't say STI.

**Orlanth**

The word changed for cultural reasons, 'disease' has a stigma 'infection' less so.

This is important as people with mild STIs might not seek treatment because all STIs are categoriesd the same wheras there is a world of difference between a dose of gonorrea and herpes or AIDS.

Another off tpic example is how RTA has changed to RTC. People dont have 'Road Traffic Accidents' anymore they have 'Road Traffic Collisions', the word accident implies a lack of culpability. Police, and insurers, didnt like this built in cop out.

**sebster**

Doomthumbs wrote:How the HELL does a condom stave off crabs? They're pubic lice, man. Condom doesnt cover my curlies, where they would live if I wasn't monogamous and not all that worried about anything but the worst disease of all, babies.

It doesn't. I was just talking about the conversation I had, where it was explained to me why they changed from STD to STI.

**Ahtman**

Goerge Carlin wrote:

I don't like words that hide the truth. I don't like words that conceal reality. I don't like euphemisms, or euphemistic language.

And American English is loaded with euphemisms. Cause Americans have a lot of trouble dealing with reality. Americans have trouble facing the truth, so they invent the kind of a soft language to protect themselves from it, and it gets worse with every generation.

For some reason, it just keeps getting worse. I'll give you an example of that. There's a condition in combat. Most people know about it. It's when a fighting person's nervous system has been stressed to it's absolute peak and maximum. Can't take anymore input. The nervous system has either (click) snapped or is about to snap.

In the first world war, that condition was called Shell Shock. Simple, honest, direct language. Two syllables, Shell Shock. Almost sounds like the guns themselves. That was seventy years ago.

Then a whole generation went by and the second world war came along and very same combat condition was called Battle Fatigue. Four syllables now. Takes a little longer to say. Doesn't seem to hurt as much. Fatigue is a nicer word than shock. Shell Shock! Battle Fatigue.

Then we had the war in Korea, 1950. Madison avenue was riding high by that time, and the very same combat condition was called Operational Exhaustion. Hey, were up to eight syllables now! And the humanity has been squeezed completely out of the phrase. It's totally sterile now. Operational exhaustion. Sounds like something that might happen to your car.

Then of course, came the war in Viet Nam, which has only been over for about sixteen or seventeen years, and thanks to the lies and deceits surrounding that war, I guess it's no surprise that the very same condition was called Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder. Still eight syllables, but we've added a hyphen! And the pain is completely buried under jargon. Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.

I'll bet you if we'd of still been calling it Shell Shock, some of those Viet Nam veterans might have gotten the attention they needed at the time. I'll betcha. I'll betcha."