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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 18:02:30
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Which is it? Nids? Demons? Deldar?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 18:03:34
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Major
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 18:06:16
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Furious Fire Dragon
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 18:08:57
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Daemons, however there are some drawbacks/advantages to the dex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 18:21:28
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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Devastator wrote:tau
+ infinity
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Army:
Havenican sector:
Amory IV legion 2750 points (100% painted)
Sons of Plague 2600 (95% painted)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 18:57:00
Subject: Re:Best close clombat army
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Space Wolves, Daemons and Orks I'd say.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 19:56:52
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Lord of the Fleet
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Best close cLombat army eh?
I'd probably have to agree with the Tau answers. With regards to clombat they're the best.
For close combat armies though, probably space wolves and orks. Blob guard does the trick too these days.
*Edit* I just noticed you used Deldar...I will never get used to that term.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 20:28:00
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Combat Jumping Ragik
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I can't say daemons because of their DS rules allows your opponent to either RF into you or charge you at their choice, which hurts.
I'd say Orks, wolves or BA all tie for second, Tau bring it up at #1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 20:31:17
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Never-Miss Nightwing Pilot
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Orks, because when they come on in a big tide are unstoppable. Space Wolves also have some great CC units though, so while they will be better at orks in CC generally, they lack the numbers and will likely be overwhelmed.
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"The stars themselves once lived and died at our command yet you still dare oppose our will. "-Farseer Mirehn Biellann
Armies at 'The Stand-still Point':
Cap'n Waaagggh's warband (Fantasy Orcs) 2250pts. Waaagghhh! in full flow... W-D-L=10-3-3
Hive Fleet Leviathan Strand 1500pts. W-D-L=7-1-2 Nom.
Eldar armies of various sizes W-D-L 26-6-3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 20:38:16
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Mekboy Hammerin' Somethin'
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Some armies are better than others at CC, and while no one soldier comes down to defining the Army, I find that SW and BA are very good melee armies, I have just recently seen DE, and they are quite effective in CC as well. Run-on's, you gotta love em
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Thunderfrog wrote:
+1 Str for like 5 points? To autocannons or assault cannons? Hell yea. Then the Reinforced Aegis upgrade for free AND the ability to ignore stunned shaken.. pretty much for free..
Other Dreadnaughts should just go somewhere and be a toaster.
Mattieu~~~~ It's not that eldar are bad, it's that they require a lot of intergration between units. Also, that doesnt prove anything other than GW has a huge hard-on for marines, and, given the option between making a xeno the best psykers or making a marine the best psyker, they will 9 times out of 10 choose the marine.
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Tzeentchling9 wrote:Mephy can't be swept. He is still a marine so he has the, "And They Shall Never Get Removed From The Table After Losing Combat Like Everyone Else Because They Are The Poster Boys" special rule.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 20:43:18
Subject: Re:Best close clombat army
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Zealous Sin-Eater
Chico, CA
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Orks, if they get the assualt, there is no question. Now if they get assaulted this can change fast, but if they assault even Elites need to fear the 29 strong Choppas and 1 PK.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 20:56:47
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
Georgia, USA
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I'd say Chaos Daemons and Space Wolves. I don't know enough about the Orks or Dark Eldar to include them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 20:58:38
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Storming Storm Guardian
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Eldar,And i`m being serious,ws 4,cheap as IG power weaponry,and a full squad of harlequins,well,let`s just hope it does`nt last long...........
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1000 points Nidzilla
1750 Soudias craftowrld (mechanized)
you may field 70 dreadknights and 4 platoons of terminators,but you`re victiory falls in the hands of a cube |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 22:28:19
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Major
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Blood Angels can hit like a ton of bricks, you can very nearly give your whole army furious charge and with FNP bubbles they're actually going to make it to combat intact. Yeah, I reckon BA are one of the best cc armies.
The downside? They're bloody expensive.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 23:27:05
Subject: Re:Best close clombat army
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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Meh, for pure CC, Nids stomp BA. BA only pull ahead when you factor in their fire support.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 23:36:39
Subject: Re:Best close clombat army
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Stormin' Stompa
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What, no votes for Tyranids? Because that's my vote.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/09 23:43:30
Subject: Re:Best close clombat army
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
Inside that little light in your refridgerator
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I vote Orks, closely followed by Tyranids.
Orks are cheap as chips and naturally pretty awesome in CC, with the rest of the combat choices being even meaner. And there's a lot of wounds to chew through before you're touching the heavy-hitters (174 basic boyz for troops comes to mind).
Tyranids are pretty damn awesome in CC, but I think things like Synapse and the fact that the bigger beasties can be on the slow side (Swarmlord/carnifex needing to walk, waiting for Trygon to DS; Flyrant is the exception here) are what puts orks on top.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 04:58:18
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I imagine lots of scenarios of big groups of orks getting owned by monsters or dreadnoughts.
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“Attention citizens! Due to the financial irresponsibility and incompetence of your leaders, Cobra has found it necessary to restructure your nation’s economy. We have begun by eliminating the worthless green paper, which your government has deceived you into believing is valuable. Cobra will come to your rescue and, out of the ashes, will arise a NEW ORDER!” |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 05:56:39
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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The humble Hormagaunt with Toxin sac is one of the best non-vehicle hunters in the game. With a stunning 3 attacks on the charge, poisoned weapons, improved fleet, rerolling 1's and Initative 5 it's insane up against any target. Even Terminators will fall to the amount of attack a swarm of these guys can dish out. And because of their low cost, you can field tons and tons of these bugs. Failing that, a Tervigon-buffed termagant unit can be just as devastating, for almost half the cost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 06:00:48
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Still gonna rock with Daemons, sure the fact their codex is aging a bit is evident. DS'ing hurts them alot as they're CC oriented as an army almost through and through more so than any other imo.
With a bit of smarts when DS'ing and a lil luck on the dice to land properly daemons on the charge eat almost everything.
Fiends of slanessh, GUO, plaguebearers, the lil red dudes w/ hell blades, Freakin Juggernaughts zomg these monsters on the charge alone make me wanna pack up my models
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 06:34:24
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
in the stomp'n center of da WAAAAAAGGH!!!!
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da orks are green which makes dem better
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 06:48:36
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
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All of them. All of them are the best.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 06:55:59
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Devastator wrote:tau + infinity x 2 But really, Orks. Cheap as dirt, as effective as large mounds of dirt which, of course, can kill.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 07:07:55
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
Aurora, CO.
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Blood Angels, Orks, and Dark Eldar.
Blood Angels can outlast you with quality, Orks win through attrition, and against Dark Eldar, one implies that the unit assaulted will even be around to strike back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 07:54:41
Subject: Re:Best close clombat army
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Plaguebearer with a Flu
Southern Gate of Chaos
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Well, just a lil' prejudiced here...but I run the Khornate Daemon Army...and there's nothing I haven't been able to chop up into lil' pieces!
Not the most powerful Army per say because of the varying victory conditions from Tourney to Tourney (or Leagues) but easily the most scary.
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from the Southern Gate of Chaos,
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Chaos Khorne
Forever
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 08:56:42
Subject: Best close clombat army
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Plummeting Black Templar Thunderhawk Pilot
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Black Templars can all take 2 CCW and have preferred enemy - nothing to be scoffed at.
Nothing is as deadly as pathfinders though!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 09:19:50
Subject: Re:Best close clombat army
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Devious Space Marine dedicated to Tzeentch
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 20:15:09
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Stalwart Space Marine
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Orks is da meanest and killyest!
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Raven Guard ~1,500pts WIP |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 20:31:06
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Monstrously Massive Big Mutant
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Suprised no one has said this yet, but chaos marines can make a list thats very good in CC.
Not much beats world eaters in close combat- they still loose but thats because they can't do anything else well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/12/10 20:34:50
Subject: Re:Best close clombat army
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Bloodthirsty Chaos Knight
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Gonna have to say Orks on this one. Although DE, BA, SW, nids, BT, Daemons all have their merits, Orks live and breath CC. You can't go wrong with a S4 T4 WS4 4 attacks all on the charge for a mere SIX POINTS each.
I fear Orks in CC the most by far.
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