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Id go with orks on this one.

DC, Skarbrand in a Slannesh focused list= OMNOMNOM at least on orks, and nids.

scubasteve04 wrote:Gonna have to say Orks on this one. Although DE, BA, SW, nids, BT, Daemons all have their merits, Orks live and breath CC. You can't go wrong with a S4 T4 WS4 4 attacks all on the charge for a mere SIX POINTS each.

I fear Orks in CC the most by far.

True thats why I tend to charge them.

STR 3 makes them kinda meh and bad imo

all they have then is #'s

either IG (blob) , 'nids , or orkses.

IG. Maybe Tau.

Imperial guard. They drown you in a swarm of three stooges eye pokings to the point anything will fall.

kHORNE OR SLAANESH DAEMONS NOT TZEENTCH MAYBE NURGLE

Tyranids!

Swarmlord, Hive Tyrants, Tyranid Primes, Ymgarl Genestealers, Venomthropes, Hormagaunts, Genestealers(and Broodlords), 2xBS/LW+BS Warriors/Shrikes, Gargoyles, Raveners, Old One Eye, Trygons, Carnifexes!

Oh my!

Ratlings... Ratling SCs especially. With 500,000,000 wounds. Each.

I'd agree with either ork or imperial guard.

Green tide orks are the best when they get the charge, but the guard is also the best because they don't need the charge to still come out ahead.

Everybody else can be good, but invariably has some horrible, gaping flaw, like low model count (here's looking at you, space wolves).

Got to go for Orks here followed by BA.

Space Wolves are a close quarters army not necessarily a close combat army there is a difference.

In my experience a teamed up Khorne army with Tyranids. It was like a combined army unit, KB were infantry, HT and carny were tanks.
In 3rd ed i would have happily thrown my KB army against any other CC army. But ive lost my axe choppas so not sure anymore.

Probably would be orks. They are great in CC and there's so many of them that they would be quite forgiving of errors.

Demons

The Orks and Tyranids are designed for CC. That's their wheelhouse and no one does it better. The mass amount of numbers is what wins CC. There is only so much a few elites can do vs 30 units and 60+ attacks.

Really depends on initiative order, how many survive to get into close combat and who they are fighting.

Orks, because of the low cost of ork boyz or Space Wolves/Black Templars or Daemons, though they are kind of hard to get close combat.

your all missing something very important in your calculations.......KHORNE BESERKERS KILLL EVERYTHING BWAHAHAHAHA

zhangbob wrote:your all missing something very important in your calculations.......KHORNE BESERKERS KILLL EVERYTHING BWAHAHAHAHA

Having been on the receiving end of Kharne too many times with his loyal berzerkers, I completely agree!!

As much as I play and love my Tyranids, I agree that Orks are simply better.

Tyranids are CC-focused, but their shooting is also really good. Devourers, Zoanthropes, Doom, Hive Guard, Venom Cannons, etc are all great shooting weapons/units.

Orks, on the other hand, live, breathe, and eat melee. Ork shooting is less accurate than a simply Gaunt, and they really don't have any reliance on guns aside from Lootas.

NO KHORNE ZERKERS ARE BETTER >~~~~~~

zhangbob wrote:NO KHORNE ZERKERS ARE BETTER >~~~~~~

Someone should tell my Orkz that, becouse they keep killing/stomping/laughing at them. My choppa have yet to get a second round of CC with them becouse there never any KB left.

Tyranids Tervigon build has got to be one of the top CC lists out there.
I love my orks though because, well, WAAAAAAAAAGH!!!!
They're both the main cc armies, with BA coming in 2nd probably.

Ailaros wrote:Green tide orks are the best when they get the charge

yep. I assaulted a mob of like 150 with my 10 captains, chapter master, 2 chaplains and vanguard veterans. B the end I killed the orks, my vanguard were dead and I lost the 2 chaplains. A captain was on his last wound.

Death Company Armies tend to be quite obscene in cc, but I'd go with Orks on this one.

For me it comes down to Tyranids and Orks.
Both armies have a strong element of "Run everything forward until it hits a face".

I just prefer tyranids because they can put out some unholy shooting before they get to CC as well.
3 Fexes with 2xTLDevs and a tervigon with Onslaught is going to put 36 Twinn Linked S6 shots just about wherever you want them. And to stop it, all you have to do is assault 3 carnifexen and the gaunts around them! Not easy.