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Did you find DA2 a let down after DA:O?
My God, Yes! 12% [ 7 ]
Yes 9% [ 5 ]
Meh 10% [ 6 ]
No 5% [ 3 ]
Not at all. 36% [ 21 ]
Now you DIE for speaking ill of a Bioware title! 10% [ 6 ]
I have not played it/No Opinion 17% [ 10 ]
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Seriously, I felt that this game was a major letdown from DA:O. Most keenly because I replayed DA:O and all the DLC to get together a save game for DA 2. Which was totally ignored because Anders died in my save game. Which sort of led me to wonder what the point was of being able to import a save if they're going to ignore what happened in it.

Hopefully EA doesn't shut off my ability to play my various Bioware games for speaking ill of them... (http://gamepolitics.com/2011/03/11/sassy-bioware-user-gets-ban-can039t-play-dragon-age-ii)

However metacritic has listed the game as between 3.5 and 4.0 on it's user ratings. What do you think?


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If the point of carrying over a save is to continue on with that story, and they don't actually do that, then it's a false advertisement and I am not going to actually buy that game :/

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Gathering the Informations.

Slarg232 wrote:If the point of carrying over a save is to continue on with that story, and they don't actually do that, then it's a false advertisement and I am not going to actually buy that game :/

It does "continue on with that story", actually.

The thing is you do not play as "The Grey Warden". Rather, you play as "The Champion"--whose tale just happens to be overlapping with The Grey Warden's.

The actions of the Grey Warden affect how the game environment overall is.

And by the by:

Spoiler:
Anders died in my saved game as well. But it's explained fairly well through conversing with him that the only reason he's back...is because Justice is possessing him.
   
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Kanluwen wrote:
The actions of the Grey Warden affect how the game environment overall is.


The ending is a great expansion tease.

Spoiler:
Specifically, perhaps especially, if the Warden left with Morrigan.


Though the degree to which all the various options can be accounted for will very much hamper the inevitable DA:3.

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Kanluwen wrote:
Slarg232 wrote:If the point of carrying over a save is to continue on with that story, and they don't actually do that, then it's a false advertisement and I am not going to actually buy that game :/

It does "continue on with that story", actually.

The thing is you do not play as "The Grey Warden". Rather, you play as "The Champion"--whose tale just happens to be overlapping with The Grey Warden's.

The actions of the Grey Warden affect how the game environment overall is.

And by the by:

Spoiler:
Anders died in my saved game as well. But it's explained fairly well through conversing with him that the only reason he's back...is because Justice is possessing him.


Um, Kan, minor detail:
Spoiler:

It's made very clear that spirits can only do their thing just as you die in DA:O (see the Keep DLC). Anders had been dead for a while when I found him in DA:A...


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Gathering the Informations.

Spoiler:
The knight whose body that Justice possessed to begin with had been dead for months weeks prior
.

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Yes, I recall that as well. HE didn't like having done that, but in the end he also didn't want to die....

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I like it okay. Not great, but not bad either. The carryover thing sux and is a LETDOWN big time though.

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Yeah, that's true. The way Wynn talks about it though it sounds like it has to be done while they're alive for the being to be sentient. Though it still conflicts with my story heavily. Being that I played a mage warden that got the circle freed and got anders killed and didn't recruit Justice

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Honestly, I was underwhelmed, but I think its because I didn't play half the game.

I ignored most of the side-quests, and apparently they are much more important to the main quests.

I was let down at first, but now I understand. I'm going to replay again, as a Warrior instead of a Mage, and do every single quest I come by.

The "import save" thing was just some minor things. Like, if you put Alistair on the throne, you'll meet him, but if you put Anora on the throne, you'll meet her.

   
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Appearently there's more easter eggs then just the one's in the game on the disk....

http://www.reclaimyourgame.com/content.php?773-RYG-Update-In-Response-To-RYG%E2%80%99s-SecuROM-Dragon-Age-2-Reports


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Yeah, securom told me that I couldn't play it for another day when I got it.



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And Securom is part of the reason why people pirate games...

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I'm enjoying it a lot, I'm doing every quest I find, not in any rush to beat it. I just finished the part where

Spoiler:
mom gets turned into frankestein


I guess I'm a little over half way done. So far I think the story's been great and the gameplay is fun.

After I finish it I'll take a break and then probably play through as a mage or warrior but blow through it faster.

 
   
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I'm having the opposite experience: playing and really enjoying DA2 despite feeling tremendously let down by DA:O. It's not anything close to being a TES game, but it's heads and shoulders better than the first Dragon Age. Combat is much, much better although graphics are still seriously flawed. The characters are a few shades less soap-opera-esque, which might disappoint some of your drama llamas out there.

   
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Fine with me, I prefer a more serious attitude and less of a "let's cause drama because... BECAUSE!" one.

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The finale felt rather, dunno, bleh to me. I seriously regret romancing..

Spoiler:
Anders


..now. But still a great improvement over the first game, if it does feel a bit like Mass Effect 2 minus lasers.



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Melissia wrote:And Securom is part of the reason why people pirate games...


What's funny is that Bioware is insisting that SecuROM is not installed, it6's something else that only looks like SecuROM.

Which is sort of funny, because it told me when it had an error to contact SecuROM.


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I'm disappointed that Sir Pounce A Lot didn't make it back, only a brief reference :(

I would have liked to see more characters carried over from DAO, even though I know it's a different country or whatever.

Another disapointment was Fenris being a DLC. Should have just included him from the start, but they plan out their DLCs for maximum profitableness so I guess I shouldn't be surprised.

I'm mostly running around with anders, aveline and isabella. It's funny when the girls stat arguing

 
   
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Yeah, that was a total fail by Bioware.

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Fenris is DLC? Huh, that explains why he was a lot like Zaeed, only without the funny stories from back in the day.



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What's this about Fenris being DLC?

   
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Gathering the Informations.

Yeah, I didn't have to download him on the 360...

Only DLC there was The Black Emporium and The Exiled Prince. Unless maybe Fenris is part of the signature edition content?
   
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Oh... maybe it was sebastian that was a DLC? One of them was, I didn't read it all

The black emporium was included for me, but I had to pay extra for the exiled prince.

 
   
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Gathering the Informations.

Sebastian is definitely DLC, but if you got the signature edition--he was actually free.
   
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Kanluwen wrote:Sebastian is definitely DLC, but if you got the signature edition--he was actually free.
As free as $20 more -- although you got the soundtrack (snicker -- Bioware music, ) and four extra items, too.

   
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Gathering the Informations.

Actually...I got the signature edition for the same price

They were upgrading preorders to signature edition (at no charge) from the normal edition for quite a few months on Amazon.

The only reason you're seeing it for "$20 more" or thereabouts right now is that it sold out, and is only available through people trying to make a fast buck.
   
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w00t

In any case, I don't know if I'm into the game enough to buy item/character DLC (certainly not an archer) but I would be up for a Awakening-like higher level mini-campaign for ~$30.

   
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Gathering the Informations.

Most of the items were 'eh' but a few are absurdly good, like 'Fadeshear'--which is a sword with bonus damage v. Demons/Darkspawn and levels up as the wielder does. Avillene can two-shot Ogres with it at level 14


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Oh!

And Sebastian? Actually a pretty cool character. His 'Noble Archer' schtick is definitely unique. He gets something equivalent to that 'combo chain' for Rogues--but with his bow.

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So I'm considering getting this. Played and completed DA:O and DA:O awakening.

Whats sort of thing carries over? Minor details such as who's king/queen and who survived Vigil's keep or what city got burned to the ground?

Because although DA:O wasn't a masterpiece I was happy with it.

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