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Remember recently when people were talking about the bias at NPR that must exist, because James O'Keefe had done another one of his undercover bits and totally exposed them?

Well it turns out Glenn Beck had problems with the honesty levels in that piece. Yes, Glenn Beck had problems with it. Yes, that Glenn Beck.

Here's the job done by staffers from his website;
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/does-raw-video-of-npr-expose-reveal-questionable-editing-tactics/
"But even if you are of the opinion, as I am, that undercover reporting is acceptable and ethical in very defined situations, it is another thing to approve of editing tactics that seem designed to intentionally lie or mislead about the material being presented."

And here's a Politico piece summing up the whole issue;

It's got this rather juicy quote from Beck;
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/51317.html
“The problem with this whole thing is does James O’Keefe have enough credibility to continue to do” undercover video journalism? Beck asked his listeners. That kind of journalism, he said, is “just really not something that you necessarily want to get into. But if you do it, you damn well better not lie on the tape. You don’t now take what you have and edit something to make them say something that they didn’t say. I mean, you have no credibility then.”


So seriously, next time O'Keefe makes one of his political hatchet jobs and it's attacking someone you don't like so you're about to embrace... just remember this is a guy that Glenn Beck thinks has gone too far.

I said in that thread people who believed stuff from O'Keefe needed to take a good look at themselves. Glenn Beck thinks so too.

I don't remember when what people were talking ? I assume you mean a thread?

Phototoxin wrote:I don't remember when what people were talking ? I assume you mean a thread?

Yeah, there was a thread in which it was annonuced that NPR had been exposed as being politically biased. By James O'Keefe. People didn't seem to have a problem that the guy heading up this hidden camera report was a liar.

Glenn Beck had a problem with it, though. And when Glenn Beck thinks your media standards are low, well that means something.

Glorious.

Also, Micheal Moore is a Furby, and James O'Keefe reminds me of a lyrically impotent member of the Band of Brothers.

And I doubt his credentials as a human being, but I was staying far, far away from the NPR subject...

I tend to make it a priority to stay away from "for the mentally insane" hour on fox news, so I didn't know this, thanks.

You're forgetting, its all George Bush's fault. Gak I thought you people got the talking point memo.

Frazzled wrote:You're forgetting, its all George Bush's fault. Gak I thought you people got the talking point memo.

God, that's a great right wing zinger! now if it only mattered to the subject at hand....

I personally don't trust any ambush journalism. but you got to admit that James O'Keefe should get
pimp of the year award or best costume design by stereo type - you choose!

I'm terribly confused.

Is Glenn Beck a no nothing DON'T USE THIS WORD THIS WAY ON DAKKA who has nothing valuable to say, or is he an intelligent commentator who is exposing the truth about O'Keefe's story?

This is all very confusing. I really wish the political left would get their story straight.

biccat wrote:I'm terribly confused.

Is Glenn Beck a no nothing DON'T USE THIS WORD THIS WAY ON DAKKA who has nothing valuable to say, or is he an intelligent commentator who is exposing the truth about O'Keefe's story?

This is all very confusing. I really wish the political left would get their story straight.

Ambush journalism is a time honored staple of journalism for decades. Its also interesting none of this popped up when the blogger who supported the Wisconsin governor did his thing.

On one hand the "nobody" says it's bad, yet when Bill Oreilly pulls ambush journalism, it's okay...odd
i wish the political right would get their story straight.

and biccat i find that word highly offensive. you don't see me describing something
in a negative reference like "that was so dumb, they're a bunch of Republicans!"
i think you should leave the challenged out of politics, and discussions in general.

biccat wrote:I'm terribly confused.

Is Glenn Beck a no nothing DON'T USE THIS WORD THIS WAY ON DAKKA who has nothing valuable to say, or is he an intelligent commentator who is exposing the truth about O'Keefe's story?

This is all very confusing. I really wish the political left would get their story straight.

There is no political left in the USA.

Kilkrazy wrote:

biccat wrote:I'm terribly confused.

Is Glenn Beck a no nothing DON'T USE THIS WORD THIS WAY ON DAKKA who has nothing valuable to say, or is he an intelligent commentator who is exposing the truth about O'Keefe's story?

This is all very confusing. I really wish the political left would get their story straight.

There is no political left in the USA.

bs.

alarmingrick wrote:and biccat i find that word highly offensive.

I fail to see why your choice to be offended by a word should in any way limit my vocabulary.

Frazzled wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

biccat wrote:I'm terribly confused.

Is Glenn Beck a no nothing DON'T USE THIS WORD THIS WAY ON DAKKA who has nothing valuable to say, or is he an intelligent commentator who is exposing the truth about O'Keefe's story?

This is all very confusing. I really wish the political left would get their story straight.

There is no political left in the USA.

bs.

I agree.

They are all hiding in Illinois.

A stopped clock right twice a day.

Glenn Beck honestly thinks everything he says is true. He also sees O'fart's gotcha editing of tapes as dishonest which should surprise nobody when you think about how paranoid Beck is. Said paranoia's next logical step is to see O'fart's dishonest tactics as a threat to his own credibility, and the credibility of all other right wing journalists, bloggers, and pundits.

Sometimes paranoia is useful.

biccat wrote:

alarmingrick wrote:and biccat i find that word highly offensive.

I fail to see why your choice to be offended by a word should in any way limit my vocabulary.

Some things are just wrong. like using certain words. makes no difference on what i "choose".
it's offensive, pure and simple. it's alright, i'm sure you're a great person, deep down.

Sigh can't call O'keefe by his proper nickname by swapping k for qu without dakka's profanity filter turning him into a fart.

Oh jeeze move on from the slow reference people. Thats one of the terms we avoid here out of respect for some posters.

There are plenty of descriptors we can still use for Glenn Beck.

He's also one of the few people to use actual science in reporting the Fukushima reactor situation.

http://www.businessinsider.com/glenn-beck-japan-nuclear-meltdown-video-2011-3

Frazzled wrote:Oh jeeze move on from the slow reference people. Thats one of the terms we avoid here out of respect for some posters.

Oh jeez, that's something I didn't realize.

Frazzled edit: what Biccat meant to say was: Frazzled Mod is Bestest Mod!

biccat wrote:I'm terribly confused.

Is Glenn Beck a no nothing DON'T USE THIS WORD THIS WAY ON DAKKA who has nothing valuable to say, or is he an intelligent commentator who is exposing the truth about O'Keefe's story?

Yes. Except that I would replace commentator with entertainer.

-Yad

He's a no-nothing pants-on-head crazy, who is still somehow lucid enough to see that O'Keefe is full of it.

If a no-nothing pants-on-head crazy can tell that someone has no credibility, it hopefully shouldn't be too hard for the rest of us.

And for the record, I largely agree with Kilkrazy. While there are leftist individuals in the US and in the Democratic party, both major parties are really center-Right on a general spectrum, especially when compared to the rest of the industrialized world.

sebster wrote:Remember recently when people were talking about the bias at NPR that must exist, because James O'Keefe had done another one of his undercover bits and totally exposed them?

biccat and Frazzled, IIRC?

It wasn't like the majority of the posters in the thread were basically saying that this was an intensely silly misrepresentation of the whole thing that had been blown way out of proportion or anything.

WARBOSS TZOO wrote:

sebster wrote:Remember recently when people were talking about the bias at NPR that must exist, because James O'Keefe had done another one of his undercover bits and totally exposed them?

biccat and Frazzled, IIRC?

You don't. I'd be willing to accept an apology.

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Ahtman wrote:Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Or as my dad would say, "The sun even shines on a dog's arse every once in a while."

biccat wrote:I'm terribly confused.

Is Glenn Beck a no nothing DON'T USE THIS WORD THIS WAY ON DAKKA who has nothing valuable to say, or is he an intelligent commentator who is exposing the truth about O'Keefe's story?

This is all very confusing. I really wish the political left would get their story straight.

You have to be a member of the political left in order to think of Beck as a buffoon and O'Keefe as a clown? That's a very confusing precondition to infer.

biccat wrote:

WARBOSS TZOO wrote:

sebster wrote:Remember recently when people were talking about the bias at NPR that must exist, because James O'Keefe had done another one of his undercover bits and totally exposed them?

biccat and Frazzled, IIRC?

You don't. I'd be willing to accept an apology.

ahem.

biccat wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:So, Glenn Beck can vomit words of hate and completely go ape gak on Fox News, (Fair And Balanced, may I add) but if a democrat does it, everyone jeers him?

What the hell, world?

Fox News doesn't threaten to send me to jail if I fail to give them money to stay on the air.

Also, I don't think anyone ever pretended that Glenn Beck was an unbiased journalist, like NPR is (supposedly) supposed to be.

WARBOSS TZOO wrote:

biccat wrote:

WARBOSS TZOO wrote:

sebster wrote:Remember recently when people were talking about the bias at NPR that must exist, because James O'Keefe had done another one of his undercover bits and totally exposed them?

biccat and Frazzled, IIRC?

You don't. I'd be willing to accept an apology.

ahem.

I didn't suggest that bias must exist because James O'Keefe had done another one of his undercover bits. I just said that they're biased.

Still waiting.

It starts with "I" and rhymes with "was wrong".

Give it a try.