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Seriously? Why isn't Gay Marriage legal? Besides the fact that a mystical man in the sky says that men shouldn't bonk other men, can anyone come up with a good reason why it isn't?

You got plans then?

I thought it was.

Oh, you're US. Apologies.

۞ Jack ۞ wrote:You got plans then?

Yes I do.

Move over here then (free healthcare too!)...

...and congratulations

Flashman wrote:Move over here then (free healthcare too!)...

...and congratulations

Or try canada if you want to stay closer to home.

It is in some countries.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage

Oh hang on, we're only civil partnerships. Don't apply for British citizenship just yet

Flashman wrote:Oh hang on, we're only civil partnerships. Don't apply for British citizenship just yet

Civil partnerships are marriage in all but name tbh, you can get a priest to do the ceremony in a church anyway and the legal aspect is almost identical.

I support gay marriage.

samusaran253 wrote:I support gay marriage.

Congratulations, you are in the overwhelming majority.

Because there are a bunch of people who are not gay enough with the issue.

corpsesarefun wrote:

Flashman wrote:Oh hang on, we're only civil partnerships. Don't apply for British citizenship just yet

Civil partnerships are marriage in all but name tbh, you can get a priest to do the ceremony in a church anyway and the legal aspect is almost identical.

A priest cant do a civil ceremony, as a civil ceremony cannot have any relegious aspects.

dirkthe1 wrote:

corpsesarefun wrote:

Flashman wrote:Oh hang on, we're only civil partnerships. Don't apply for British citizenship just yet

Civil partnerships are marriage in all but name tbh, you can get a priest to do the ceremony in a church anyway and the legal aspect is almost identical.

A priest cant do a civil ceremony, as a civil ceremony cannot have any relegious aspects.

What can happen however is all the religious components of a marriage ceremony in a church and the civil ceremony/legal side occurring separately after or before.

We will never get gay marriage as marriage is a religious event, most religions believe it wrong to be gay.

It is worth noting that even in Britain married couples are still required to sign the marriage registry to be counted as being a couple.

Gay marriage is illegal? Where?

Do you go to jail for it?

corpsesarefun wrote:

samusaran253 wrote:I support gay marriage.

Congratulations, you are in the overwhelming majority.

I'm also in favor of gay marriage, but we do not have an overwhelming majority. Telling people we have an overwhelming majority is telling others, and yourself what you want to believe. Telling yourself what you want to believe is drinking your own cool aid. Drinking your own cool ail is dangerous, and has consequences such as Prop 8 passing back in 2008. People in favor of gay marriage love to blame the Mormons for prop 8 passing rather than take any responsibility themselves for the election. People like you assumed that they were in the overwhelming majority, ignored the issue on the assumption that it would never win, and ignored the fact that minorities are less likely to be in favor of gay marriage despite the fact that Obama was going to create record minority turn outs at the voting poll. There is a lot more to elections than simply buying them with money, because if money alone could purchase a California election Meg Whitman would have won last year. Prop 8 passed because too many people in favor of gay marriage assumed they were in the overwhelming majority, and you know what they say about assumptions.

corpsesarefun wrote:

Flashman wrote:Oh hang on, we're only civil partnerships. Don't apply for British citizenship just yet

Civil partnerships are marriage in all but name tbh, you can get a priest to do the ceremony in a church anyway and the legal aspect is almost identical.

That is incorrect.

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Governmentcitizensandrights/Registeringlifeevents/Marriagesandcivilpartnerships/DG_175715

Tri wrote:We will never get gay marriage as marriage is a religious event, most religions believe it wrong to be gay.

Does that mean atheists can't get married?


Doesn't fly here in Aus at the moment either, BTW.

Tri wrote:We will never get gay marriage as marriage is a religious event, most religions believe it wrong to be gay.

It is worth noting that even in Britain married couples are still required to sign the marriage registry to be counted as being a couple.

That is how you legally become married in the UK. You sign the register.

The same for civil partnerships, except you sign the civil partnership register rather than the marriage register.


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biccat wrote:Gay marriage is illegal? Where?

Do you go to jail for it?

Zimbabwe. You get hanged for it.

Chowderhead wrote:Seriously? Why isn't Gay Marriage legal? Besides the fact that a mystical man in the sky says that men shouldn't bonk other men, can anyone come up with a good reason why it isn't?

Because your country is gak.

Secondly? Who cares? The only reason I'd ever get married is for financiel reasons.... So, just on paper, no ceremony, no nothing, just sign here please.

Soladrin wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:Seriously? Why isn't Gay Marriage legal? Besides the fact that a mystical man in the sky says that men shouldn't bonk other men, can anyone come up with a good reason why it isn't?

Because your country is gak.

Secondly? Who cares? The only reason I'd ever get married is for financiel reasons.... So, just on paper, no ceremony, no nothing, just sign here please.

Yeah, I often find weddings just seem like an over-blown celebration of a couples love.

Waste of money would be my choice of words.

I am gay for gay marriage.

Gay marriage? I'm all for it! It always did amuse me that those who cry the loudest about government staying out of peoples lives and not telling them what to do are often the same ones why cry just as loud to have the government tell people they can't get married because they think it's icky.

Despite ones "personal" feelings concerning the institution of "Marriage",the fact that Gay couples are unable to join in "civil unions" in many areas is ridiculous...

However,so long as poloticians continue to cater to the hyper- religious don't expect an changes.

It sure is in Canada. Then again, we've allowed openly gay people in our military for two decades now as well, which only until a few months ago the Americans still had that stupid 'don't ask, don't tell' policy.

The problem isn't with gays, its with the illusion of separation of church and state that sometimes gets the curtain pulled up. All marriage should be a non-issue, personal choice, private contract, be it with multiple wives, husbands, homosexuals, whatever. If it is a moral or religious ideal then the state has no business saying what is or is not legal.

This includes the problem that marriage is also a civil union involving things like taxes, certain rights like not testifying in court or child support in the case of divorce, and such other things that really have no business dictating gender roles, just legal standings, in which church morality again, should have no business dipping their mass delusion fingers in.

I see no reason why deciding to be BFFs and making a public spectacle of it should allow for special priveliges/penalties beyond what unmarried people have. You decide to get married and your status changes from a legal perspective. I know plenty of people who may as well be married and have been together for 10+ years and for whatever reasons never paid the court fee to be 'married' in the eyes of anyone other than themselves, which to me, is how it should be.


It should have absolutely no legal standing, proprietal rights, or anything else beyond what any other written, signed, notorized contract would, and as such, should be an available option to anyone who wants to commit on such a level. Unfortunately, a few hundred years of scientific progress have still not found the solution to the needs of some to believe in the laws of long dead archaic cultures allegedly passed to them by a shrub, and still have the power to insinuate their stone age mentalities under the protection of modern cultural acceptance, even in a place where we are allegedly separated legally from any church idealism involved in our lawmaking. Oh well, horray for the bible belt for showing that against all human progress in spite of its efforts, delusional ideas can still hold legal power because the book says that stubborn faith will win over common sense.

Cheesecat wrote:Yeah, I often find weddings just seem like an over-blown celebration of a couples love.

That strikes me as one of the best possible reasons to have an overblown celebration.

Gay or straight, if a couple wants to spend a pile of cash on a great big party to announce how much they love each other, go for it.

Kilkrazy wrote:

biccat wrote:Gay marriage is illegal? Where?

Do you go to jail for it?

Zimbabwe. You get hanged for it.

Not for getting married you don't. Zimbabwe has a lot of other problems to deal with before they start talking about gay marriage.