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So Ive been watching stuff about WW1 and it got me wondering why some of the imperial guys have gas masks on if there are no gas weapons in 40K?
Just a thought.
PS-Now that I think of it, it would be cool to change a large blast mortar or something into a gas weapon.
Thoughts?

There are of gas weapons even in Warhammer 40k, they are just not playable. Of course, a gasmask can also help when you have to deploy your troops on planets which, after millenia of polution,
have a poisonous atmosphere, like many hiveworlds do .

Ah, yes, pollution
Itd be cool to see a gas weapon put in 40K, maybe ill make that my next project in modelling.
After I finish my tankbustas.
And the Painboy.
And the Looted wagon.
ANd the drednaught.
Yeh, it might be a while.
By the way, are you German/ do you speak German?

Chemical & Biological weapons are used by Humans, Tyranids, and Chaos (the Death Guard in particular).

Oh chem weapons are so used in 40k fluff but apart from that there's other reasons to wear one (check DKOK background)

Don't DKoK Engineers have chemical grenades?

They got rid of or toned down all the gas and bio weapons because they were too powerful. I wiped out almost a whole 2nd ed guard army with one virus grenade.

The Death Korps were actually the guys I had most thought of. After Wikiing them I understand more now.
Does anyone here play them?
*EDIT- Upon a second look at the warhammer site, I cant find any Death korps of kreig guys. Im positive Ive seen them in the rulebook though. Where the hell are they?
They look super fun to paint, If I can fiond them im ordering a set immedietly.

I wish I did.

coolyo294 wrote:Don't DKoK Engineers have chemical grenades?

Yes, they have gas grenades. Quite powerful too.


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DKoK is on Forgeworld.

Ever heard of nurgle? son of a bitch loves bio warfare.

Varrick wrote: Ever heard of nurgle? son of a bitch loves bio warfare.

I dont think a gas mask would stop a nurgle plague, but what the hell, couldnt hurt.


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Melissia wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Don't DKoK Engineers have chemical grenades?

Yes, they have gas grenades. Quite powerful too.


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DKoK is on Forgeworld.

Was just about to check there after dinner, thanks. Hope theyre not TOO expensive.
*EDIT- Holy hell theyre expensive. I might just sud in some German WW1 models whichll be way less expensive If I decide to head onto that track.

Jollydevil wrote:

Varrick wrote: Ever heard of nurgle? son of a bitch loves bio warfare.

I dont think a gas mask would stop a nurgle plague, but what the hell, couldnt hurt.


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Melissia wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Don't DKoK Engineers have chemical grenades?

Yes, they have gas grenades. Quite powerful too.


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DKoK is on Forgeworld.

Was just about to check there after dinner, thanks. Hope theyre not TOO expensive.

It might buy you some time.

Forgeworld is more expensive compared to GW.

Varrick wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:

Varrick wrote: Ever heard of nurgle? son of a bitch loves bio warfare.

I dont think a gas mask would stop a nurgle plague, but what the hell, couldnt hurt.


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Melissia wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Don't DKoK Engineers have chemical grenades?

Yes, they have gas grenades. Quite powerful too.


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DKoK is on Forgeworld.

Was just about to check there after dinner, thanks. Hope theyre not TOO expensive.

It might buy you some time.

Forgeworld is more expensive compared to GW.

I expected more along the lines of 40$, 50 or whatever is insane for ten guys. If I decide to do DKoK Ill sub in german WW1 guys If I can find the right size and such.

I think the gas masks are more for environmental hazards, plus, it doesn't hurt to be prepared.

If you want budget gas masks this is for you.




http://cgi.ebay.com/Warzone-mutant-chronicles-80-plastic-soldiers-wargames-/150618542601?pt=UK_Toys_Wargames_RL&hash=item2311909209

I've got a bunch of these that I use. Here it's 80 for $30 with shipping.

Biological weapons would be too devestating for normal games of 40k.

that and some armies would be immune to the effects. Space Marines due to physiology, Orks(being plants helps), Nids are constantly evolving, and Chaos is chaos(and being marines too)




Appoc is where Chemical Warfare could be explored. but even then, you would need a larger Appoc game for it not to be an "I win" butten.

Grey Templar wrote:Biological weapons would be too devestating for normal games of 40k.

that and some armies would be immune to the effects. Space Marines due to physiology, Orks(being plants helps), Nids are constantly evolving, and Chaos is chaos(and being marines too)




Appoc is where Chemical Warfare could be explored. but even then, you would need a larger Appoc game for it not to be an "I win" butten.

Bio weapons, yes, however theres something to bew said about gas. Possibly a gas mortar, large blast, but when you shoot it the area hit becomes difficult terrain or something. Thatd be cool.

the DkoK has Gas Morters in their list IIRC.


its basically a poisoned blast marker.


the list is in FWs download section.

Grey Templar wrote:the DkoK has Gas Morters in their list IIRC.


its basically a poisoned blast marker.


the list is in FWs download section.

Im not familiar with FW at all.
Can you use FW in games other than apoc?

Grey Templar wrote:the DkoK has Gas Morters in their list IIRC.


its basically a poisoned blast marker.


the list is in FWs download section.

I dont remember a gas mortar

But yea I think the masks are mainly for environments since things like plague bearers can easily bypass even space marine armor

Plus it looks cool!

you can use FW lists where you are allowed to.


most reasonable people will let you use the rules for models you have paid good money for.


a portion of the community holds an erronious view that FW is overpowered. in reality, most is underpowered and overcosted. the 1 or 2 things that are out of line give everything else a bad reputation.



if you group is cool with the lists(which are designed with normal games in mind) then its ok.

you can't use any Super Heavy vehicles in regular games as they are Appoc only.




it is also rumored that GW will announce that FW will now be completely legal in normal games and in GW sponsored events(boosting sales which are lagging)

Tyranid spore mines and venomthropes use chemical weapons in the form of poison gas.

Grey Templar wrote:you can use FW lists where you are allowed to.


most reasonable people will let you use the rules for models you have paid good money for.


a portion of the community holds an erronious view that FW is overpowered. in reality, most is underpowered and overcosted. the 1 or 2 things that are out of line give everything else a bad reputation.



if you group is cool with the lists(which are designed with normal games in mind) then its ok.

you can't use any Super Heavy vehicles in regular games as they are Appoc only.




it is also rumored that GW will announce that FW will now be completely legal in normal games and in GW sponsored events(boosting sales which are lagging)

Well, I can see why sales are lagging when it costs me 50 bucks for 10 pieces of plastic.
Anyways, thanks, if iI ever decide to go with DKoK then ill know I can field em.

Jollydevil wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:you can use FW lists where you are allowed to.


most reasonable people will let you use the rules for models you have paid good money for.


a portion of the community holds an erronious view that FW is overpowered. in reality, most is underpowered and overcosted. the 1 or 2 things that are out of line give everything else a bad reputation.



if you group is cool with the lists(which are designed with normal games in mind) then its ok.

you can't use any Super Heavy vehicles in regular games as they are Appoc only.




it is also rumored that GW will announce that FW will now be completely legal in normal games and in GW sponsored events(boosting sales which are lagging)

Well, I can see why sales are lagging when it costs me 50 bucks for 10 pieces of plastic.
Anyways, thanks, if iI ever decide to go with DKoK then ill know I can field em.

resin. FW is resin.

What about these?

http://www.wargamesfactory.com/webstore/alien-suns/shock-troops-sci-fi-greatcoat-troopers
I must admit, I bought some of them and they surprised me for their price/quality ratio... Not FW level, but they can hold their own vs GW. You can even easily convert them with IG weaponry.
They even come with some cool shotguns you can use for veterans/engineers and much better granade launchers than gw ones.

kenshin620 wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:the DkoK has Gas Morters in their list IIRC.


its basically a poisoned blast marker.


the list is in FWs download section.

I dont remember a gas mortar

But yea I think the masks are mainly for environments since things like plague bearers can easily bypass even space marine armor

Plus it looks cool!

Fallout 3 IG mod or what?

Looks more like the Fallout: NW Kasrkin mod...

Sieggfried wrote:

kenshin620 wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:the DkoK has Gas Morters in their list IIRC.


its basically a poisoned blast marker.


the list is in FWs download section.

I dont remember a gas mortar

But yea I think the masks are mainly for environments since things like plague bearers can easily bypass even space marine armor

Plus it looks cool!

Fallout 3 IG mod or what?

I was thinking more along the lines of close up on imperial gaurd of warhmmer dawn of war

It's not. It's Fallout 3, you can tell because the helmet and goggles are shaped like Fallout equipment.

Particularly, it looks like it was done for New Vegas.