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So, I was wondering this after I read about a battle of Orks stopping Hive Fleet Levethian and even attack it. As I looked up the map, there are active Waaagh!'s everywhere near the Hive Fleets.

So, could the Orks be the only thing to protect the world from those Tyranids?

Only thing? No.

And Orks vs Tyranids is a lose-lose situation for the Imperium.

Once the (probable) stallmate ends, whoever wins will have an incredible amount of numbers on their side, consider that Orks reproduce like crazy while on battle, and Tyranids will feed on said Orks.

TLDR: After the battle there will be either a ton of Orks or a ton of Nids.

Ork spores keep coming back ^^

While they're stuck on that planet brawling, the IoM could activate it's MEGA PLANET KILLER DEATHSTAR OF DOOM!!!1! and with said MEGA PLANET KILLER DEATHSTAR OF DOOM!!!1! defeat both enemies at once.

TrollPie wrote:While they're stuck on that planet brawling, the IoM could activate it's MEGA PLANET KILLER DEATHSTAR OF DOOM!!!1! and with said MEGA PLANET KILLER DEATHSTAR OF DOOM!!!1! defeat both enemies at once.

Why activate only one they have hundreds nothing better than overkill.

Assuming that the IoM could not interfere in anyway possible and could only deal with whoever won then no, the orks are not the best thing possible. In truth it would be Necrons as they wipe out 'Nids but do not gain anything from doing so. This issue with this however is the fact that 'Nids and Necrons has occurred, I believe, a whopping Once. and that was in space

The best thing the IoM could hope for is eternal stalemate between the two beasties should they get into fighting on a planet as then that's two major things that it doesn't have to worry about

Azure wrote:Assuming that the IoM could not interfere in anyway possible and could only deal with whoever won then no, the orks are not the best thing possible. In truth it would be Necrons as they wipe out 'Nids but do not gain anything from doing so. This issue with this however is the fact that 'Nids and Necrons has occurred, I believe, a whopping Once. and that was in space

The best thing the IoM could hope for is eternal stalemate between the two beasties should they get into fighting on a planet as then that's two major things that it doesn't have to worry about

At least twice. The Necrons fought the nids in the BA book.

orks vs nids... the endless battle that keeps both happy.

orks feed the nids bio mass, and will come to them for a good fight

provided the nids put up a good fight the orks will gladly keep pouring in to fight the nids

but yes if that ever ended the warbosses and warlords from the orks would be huge and mean or the nids would have been fed so much biomas it'd be bad for the IoM either way (assumign it ever ended)

Battle titan sized warbosses make SM's go MEEP!

I wonder if the biomass thing would be bad for the Tyranids.

For them, genetic diversity is a godsend. Just being filled with Ork DNA might actually be counter productive for them.

Or massively advantageous. I think being able to reproduce through endless spores would be a good thing for them.

They don't absorb the bad stuff, only those which give them an advantage, like Ork endurance.

According to various sources, notably Xenology IIRC, it appears that Orks (Korks) were the last creation of the Old Ones to last against the Necrons; as the Gorkamorka book describes, Ork ecology managed to survive despite 0% organic life left on the world of Angelis, destroyed by necrons.

Therefore Orks are the Old Ones' last line of defence against invaders of the universe. Even if the tyranids or the necrons devour everything, Orks will still regrow in time.

They are a virus, they are unkillable, they are the future, the true heirs of the Old Ones and the universe by right belongs to us... I mean, them.

Regardless of whether the necrons or the tyranids win, the winner would be subject to Exterminatus and the threat would be contained. The planet(s) on which this massive war would be decided is already destroyed beyond reason and thus the Imperium would issue Exterminatus and that ends both threats.

No, necrons will protect us from Nids.

Necrons leave behind nothing the Nids to absorb, and they can teleport away and repair in their tomb ships. So they just keep coming back until the Nids run out of biomass.

Which world?

Orks eat squigs, squigs eat Ork poop, they are canibals for the post digested and they are damn yummy too.

And you can ferment them and drnk the intoxicating result

Squigs are awesome

You can also use them for fuel.

And painkillers, stimulants and hair extensions..

I have an idea....
They are fighting in the same star system, right?
Make a star go Supernova and run.... profit

lol @ Exterminatus against Crons.

A massive Imperial Armada would struggle to even defend against 5 Necrons ships, let more than 5. Trying to exterminate a race that laughs at all other races technology is funny. Necron ships fire with the concentrated power of a Star, the two ultimate weapons designed to kill them (by a super advanced race that lost) were a bio weapon that can survive zero organic life results and fortresses that blows up stars/planets.

Simply put, Exterminatus is not a viable way to defeat Necrons, dying and feeding them is the only way the can be defeated, it forces them into sleep.

Wait wait wait wait........you guys think the fate of the ENTIRE GALAXY.......would come to a super battle on one planet? Who the hell thinks like that? It would be many planets, the front line of the battle would be systems no 1 planet. Also, looking at it like that, theres no way the awesomely invincible IoM (I type that laughing at you suckers) would be able to get close enough to "exterminatus" the planets anyways. Lets say the Orks win. Then that area would be surrounded by billions of Orks on hundreds of planets, many systems deep. In Order for Orks (or the Nids it really could go either way) to win a battle of that magnitude, it would take multiple billions of Orks, a million different klans, to pull it off, and those Orks at the epicenter of the "gak" would be massively powerful, surrounded by, again, billions of Orks.

Not gunna happen Emperor fan bois, not gunna happen. Like stated before, who ever won, would be FAR to powerful for the IoM to do anything but brace for impact

KingCracker wrote:Wait wait wait wait........you guys think the fate of the ENTIRE GALAXY.......would come to a super battle on one planet? Who the hell thinks like that? It would be many planets, the front line of the battle would be systems no 1 planet. Also, looking at it like that, theres no way the awesomely invincible IoM (I type that laughing at you suckers) would be able to get close enough to "exterminatus" the planets anyways. Lets say the Orks win. Then that area would be surrounded by billions of Orks on hundreds of planets, many systems deep. In Order for Orks (or the Nids it really could go either way) to win a battle of that magnitude, it would take multiple billions of Orks, a million different klans, to pull it off, and those Orks at the epicenter of the "gak" would be massively powerful, surrounded by, again, billions of Orks.

Not gunna happen Emperor fan bois, not gunna happen. Like stated before, who ever won, would be FAR to powerful for the IoM to do anything but brace for impact

Yeah, but if it all happened on one planet it would be awesome

KingCracker wrote:Wait wait wait wait........you guys think the fate of the ENTIRE GALAXY.......would come to a super battle on one planet?

Holly Terra

Orks are pretty much the primary reason the Imperium isn't being utterly devastated by Tyranids. Without the uncountable, inconceivable masses of the Green Tide absorbing and even damaging the majority of the Tyranid thrust into the galaxy, the Imperium would have to focus far, FAR more effort in fighting the Tyranids off.

Brother Coa wrote:

KingCracker wrote:Wait wait wait wait........you guys think the fate of the ENTIRE GALAXY.......would come to a super battle on one planet?

Holly Terra

That would decide the fate of the Imperium...
The Imperium isn't the only thing in the galaxy...

Melissia wrote:Orks are pretty much the primary reason the Imperium isn't being utterly devastated by Tyranids. Without the uncountable, inconceivable masses of the Green Tide absorbing and even damaging the majority of the Tyranid thrust into the galaxy, the Imperium would have to focus far, FAR more effort in fighting the Tyranids off.

I thought the only major conflict between Orks and Nids was against Leviathen which would be more of a Tau problem.

Brother Coa wrote:

KingCracker wrote:Wait wait wait wait........you guys think the fate of the ENTIRE GALAXY.......would come to a super battle on one planet?

Holly Terra

Why?
Firstly, Terra is the most heavily fortified planet in the galaxy. The Hive Mind knows the casualties it would suffer would be astronomical; it would be far easier to wipe out any nearby agri-worlds and let it starve. There Orks probably don't know where it is.
Secondly, the winner of the Ork/Nid war would have far too many men to land on a planet that is essentially a giant city. Trillions of gribblies would be impossible to manouver in a huge network of roads, and would become seperated and easy to destroy. Plus, the space defenses prevent anything hanging around in orbit long enough to do any sigificant damage.
Thirdly, the winner would have far too many men to send at a single planet anyway. They would fight for entire sub-sectors at a time.
Edit: And fourthly, if the Golden Throne was at risk of being unplugged, the Eldar would manipulate all they could to divert the invader's attention. Turning the Galaxy in to a second Eye of Terror isn't good for anyone...except Chaos.

Ascalam wrote:And painkillers, stimulants and hair extensions..

....and for some good ol' 'Weirdboy doing booom!!' because of the Waaagh! energy running free in a squig-eating contest.

Nicholas wrote:

Melissia wrote:Orks are pretty much the primary reason the Imperium isn't being utterly devastated by Tyranids. Without the uncountable, inconceivable masses of the Green Tide absorbing and even damaging the majority of the Tyranid thrust into the galaxy, the Imperium would have to focus far, FAR more effort in fighting the Tyranids off.

I thought the only major conflict between Orks and Nids was against Leviathen which would be more of a Tau problem.

Orks occupy essentially the entirety of known space. They are by FAR the most populous race in the galaxy, quite possibly outnumbering all other sentient races combined. To quote Codex: Orks... anywhere humanity goes, Orks have already been there or are not long in the coming.