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Should be 70ish for a loss, 120ish for a win and I generally get about 275 for a win with the first win of the day bonus. This is 5v5 games though, 3v3 is significantly unbalanced.
Kind of thought the new map would finally be the magma chamber though.
n0t_u wrote:Should be 70ish for a loss, 120ish for a win and I generally get about 275 for a win with the first win of the day bonus. This is 5v5 games though, 3v3 is significantly unbalanced.
Kind of thought the new map would finally be the magma chamber though.
It's against bots, but it was still incredibly low when I did PvP.....
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
PvP will likely be a headache anyway, but it's still worth it as it speeds up the time you have to wait saving for a champ.
Don't try solo queuing as a support though, it's like playing Russian roulette with 3 bullets loaded.
I'm also getting the feeling the changes to Pantheon and Twisted Fate's ultimates might have been made with this new gameplay in mind.
Sasori wrote:LoL and HoN are both preparing for the DOTA 2 release coming soon.
LoL with Dominion, and HoN with F2P.
Speaking of, when does DOTA 2 release, anyway?
Supposed to be this year. There is a major 1 mil tourny for it, that all the major Dota Teams have been invited to, as a "Kick off" for Dota 2. So, I suspect release will be in a month or two.
Im holding my breath until one of these come out which is fun and me being bad doesn't not only cripple my team but also supercharges the other team >.<
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Grundz wrote:Im holding my breath until one of these come out which is fun and me being bad doesn't not only cripple my team but also supercharges the other team >.<
Meh, I've had teams which are "losing" 28-53 and yet we still win.... It's an objective based game, people, I don't freaking care if I'm feeding the other team if I'm taking out three turrets for every six deaths.....
Whose everyones favorite champion, anyway? Out of all of them I've tried, Malzahar has to be my favorite.
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
Grundz wrote:Im holding my breath until one of these come out which is fun and me being bad doesn't not only cripple my team but also supercharges the other team >.<
Meh, I've had teams which are "losing" 28-53 and yet we still win.... It's an objective based game, people, I don't freaking care if I'm feeding the other team if I'm taking out three turrets for every six deaths.....
Whose everyones favorite champion, anyway? Out of all of them I've tried, Malzahar has to be my favorite.
Yeah, that won't work in DOTA 2 though. Since you lose gold on death, and the enemies will gain gold.
Sounds like you should give LoL a try Grundz, it tends to be more forgiving than the alternatives out there.
Sasori wrote:
Yeah, that won't work in DOTA 2 though. Since you lose gold on death, and the enemies will gain gold.
Sounds like you should give LoL a try Grundz, it tends to be more forgiving than the alternatives out there.
May be I will when I have some spare time.
Seriously, the last DOTA I played was back when they had a siege tank and necromancer, I would run around as a necromancer and help out my buddies, raise tons of skeletons and micromanage my little army, and usually lose.
then they removed the necro and I was forced to like, actually contribute, and by contribute I mean get banned from 3/4 of games that douches create because I dont know the gold cost of an item and the games I did get into everyone would leave if I asked a question.
I tried HON, but again encountered the same elitist douchebaggery that seems to surround these "team dual" games for some reason.
Honestly I'd rather just play tower defense, it wasnt worth the frustration. so I went back to that, but I'll give lol a try one of these days.
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Grundz wrote:Im holding my breath until one of these come out which is fun and me being bad doesn't not only cripple my team but also supercharges the other team >.<
Meh, I've had teams which are "losing" 28-53 and yet we still win.... It's an objective based game, people, I don't freaking care if I'm feeding the other team if I'm taking out three turrets for every six deaths.....
Whose everyones favorite champion, anyway? Out of all of them I've tried, Malzahar has to be my favorite.
Yeah, that won't work in DOTA 2 though. Since you lose gold on death, and the enemies will gain gold.
Sounds like you should give LoL a try Grundz, it tends to be more forgiving than the alternatives out there.
Sweet, that'll be fun
Grundz wrote:
Sasori wrote:
Yeah, that won't work in DOTA 2 though. Since you lose gold on death, and the enemies will gain gold.
Sounds like you should give LoL a try Grundz, it tends to be more forgiving than the alternatives out there.
May be I will when I have some spare time.
Seriously, the last DOTA I played was back when they had a siege tank and necromancer, I would run around as a necromancer and help out my buddies, raise tons of skeletons and micromanage my little army, and usually lose.
then they removed the necro and I was forced to like, actually contribute, and by contribute I mean get banned from 3/4 of games that douches create because I dont know the gold cost of an item and the games I did get into everyone would leave if I asked a question.
I tried HON, but again encountered the same elitist douchebaggery that seems to surround these "team dual" games for some reason.
Honestly I'd rather just play tower defense, it wasnt worth the frustration. so I went back to that, but I'll give lol a try one of these days.
Yeah, I've only ever met four people who do stuff like that. While my experiance isn't the greatest as I haven't been playing that long, they are few and far between in LoL for me.
However, the funniest bit of it is that all four of them were complaining about their team mates sucking against Beginner Bot teams. And they usually shut up when you point out that if they were so great, they would be playing PVP.....
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
Slightly more forgiving, not as bad as it can be in DoTA (*cough*anti-mage, void*cough*) but there are still a few characters that can almost defeat the entire enemy team on their own if they're getting fed enough. Although it looks like the gold scales a little more so that if you get killed enough times in a row you're actually worth less than the minions are. By that point your team will hate you and you will basically not exist anyway.
Kills are still slightly more important than tower kills though. At the lower levels it might not seem so bad, but it actually gives the enemy a bit of an advantage over you. Eventually you will just die and not take any towers with you, the enemy then just walks right up to your nexus and wins.
I'd also recommend giving it a try Grundz, there are a fair amount of training modes in the game now anyway. As for favorite champion at the moment it would be Soraka, the heals are fun and if you set up the skill order and cooldown reduction just right you have infinite mana meaning infinite heals. No need to build any mana regen on Soraka in my opinion.
Though sometimes I'll play Teemo (unless it's free Teemo week, don't like enemy Teemo when playing as Teemo; it's a shroom thing) generally I'm any of the support champions besides Karma and Taric which I'm still working on.
Sasori wrote:
Yeah, that won't work in DOTA 2 though. Since you lose gold on death, and the enemies will gain gold.
Sounds like you should give LoL a try Grundz, it tends to be more forgiving than the alternatives out there.
May be I will when I have some spare time.
Seriously, the last DOTA I played was back when they had a siege tank and necromancer, I would run around as a necromancer and help out my buddies, raise tons of skeletons and micromanage my little army, and usually lose.
then they removed the necro and I was forced to like, actually contribute, and by contribute I mean get banned from 3/4 of games that douches create because I dont know the gold cost of an item and the games I did get into everyone would leave if I asked a question.
I tried HON, but again encountered the same elitist douchebaggery that seems to surround these "team dual" games for some reason.
Honestly I'd rather just play tower defense, it wasnt worth the frustration. so I went back to that, but I'll give lol a try one of these days.
I play HoN, and I admit the community is just awful. It also has a pretty steep learning curve, but I get a lot more satisfaction out of my wins than I do with the other alternatives. I am looking forward to DOTA 2, I think it'll be great fun.
Sasori wrote:
I play HoN, and I admit the community is just awful. It also has a pretty steep learning curve, but I get a lot more satisfaction out of my wins than I do with the other alternatives. I am looking forward to DOTA 2, I think it'll be great fun.
We'll see
I'm not a bad gamer, However I cant really relate to, or want to deal with the people that get their own vent server with their buddies and roflstomp pugs all day.
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Even LoL can be filled with douches, but I do feel like at least you can play vs AI and learn, or play 3v3 with friends and have fun even if you get stomped.
My suggestion would be to learn a decent tank and use having that extra durability to your advantage, so at least you won't be accused of feeding.
I play Taric mostly, but have recently picked up Xin Zhao, Maokai and Vladimir to expand my choices. I used to play Sivir too, but I stopped for quite some time and she got nerfed and is now outclassed terribly as a RADC. I am really liking Maokai so far, but time will tell if I am decent enough with him for real pvp instead of AI stomping. I need better runes though!
I have been gaming since 1995, and never, NEVER have I met as many ing ers in the history of gaming....
We have 5 guys, one refuses to go mid, so after everyone is level 4, and the Enemy Mid is level 7, I say Feth It and go mid myself. Five minutes later and five levels later, I destroy both towers and have singlehandedly pushed Mid to their Inhibitor Turret. By this time, Top has taken out the first turret before getting pushed back to Inhibiter Turrret, and Bot has lost its first turret. So what's a Guy-playing-a-girl-character to do? Go top and push them back, again singlehandedly. By this time Bot has gotten to Inhibitor, so I go down and push them all the way back to their Inhibitor and destroy it, singlehandedly yet AGAIN, teleport up to the Second Turret Top, destroy that, and get that Inhibitor Down.... So almost every Turret in the game was taken down by me, while I was the only one on my side in the lane
The win results? "Miss Fortune is OP!" "You suck, Noob!" "Go outside more, beeyotch!", all directed at me.
Fine, whatever, I feed off your tears, they make me stronger.
Next game:
We manage to push the entire map down a turret. Three Turrets, all dead, in ten minutes. We decide to push mid, but aren't paying attention as Jax took out one of our turrets. "Pansy Man X wants to surrender!" "Yes, Yes, Yes, No (Me), Yes!" *Purple Team surrenders*
And don't even get me started on the game I just got out of where whoever was playing Annie had to be younger than the character!
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
Doesn't sound too unorthodox to me, should be grabbing cdr and mana regen on carries like that anyway I guess.
Also agreeing with Kass being fun easily the fastest champion around thanks to his ultimate. No need to take a defensive summoner spell like flash on him because of it.
As for the community I occasionally get the "Soraka do you know how to use your ulti?" from the baddies who run in 1v5 because I happen to be nearby, they get nuked down hard and with ignite I can't heal enough to even save them so I just leave them. Apparently it would be my fault if I told them not to jump off a cliff if they did.
Tristana's pretty nice too, though. For some reason I refuse to play tanky DPS, with the exception of Udyr. Dunno why, it just doesn't appeal to me. Plus, I can complain about the ridiculous notion of dudes with tank-level survivability doing as much DPS as DPS.
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I once laned solo top as Nasus vs a Dr. Mundo, and he let me farm 200+ minions on my Siphon Strike in 15 minutes. Coincidentally I also had enough money for the Trinity Force at 20 minutes, and the game went downhill from there.
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