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Well from my experiance liveing in france and the uk.France is by far the best option , two years ago i was diagnosed with crohn's disease from a french hospital almost straight away after visiting the docters and saying i had a bad stomach.While i was in the uk my crohn's disease was flareing up again after a year of being fine.For this illness whenever i had it , i took an injection once every two weeks for about a month.

So i thought thay would just prescribe me them and id be fine.I was wrong , the doctor in the uk said i would have to wait TWO MONTH before i could even see a consultant who would be able to make out the prescription for me and even then it could take months before i even get the medecine.Becaus it would cost the NHS £250 for one injection.

I only brought this up becaus if the NHS isent willing to pay for peoples medecin to make them better but actully trying to pay as least as possible at the patiants expense and even there death , since im british it makes me sad haveing to fly over to france to get the medecine that could save my life and that i cant get in the uk becaus thay dont want to pay for it !!

Im not even going to mention america , if you dont have money there , thay will just let you die on the street in front of the hospital.

Im not even going to mention america , if you dont have money there , thay will just let you die on the street in front of the hospital.

Care to give a couple of examples of that happening in the US before you make crap bag type statements?

Or did you intend this to be a US bashing thread?

Yeah, CptJake and any posters thinking of it, this is a troll thread.

Just sayin'. That's pretty much all this guy does, so ignoring is best.

No i watched a documetary called sicko , he shows footage of someone dieing outside a hospital becaus he couldent show that he had any insurance or money.

CptJake wrote:

Im not even going to mention america , if you dont have money there , thay will just let you die on the street in front of the hospital.

Care to give a couple of examples of that happening in the US before you make crap bag type statements?

Or did you intend this to be a US bashing thread?

Hospitals provide emergency care only to people without insurance. Chronic care or recovery is only for paying customers. This includes patients with cancer and plenty of other communicable diseases. If you want an example interact with someone that A: Doesn't have insurance and B: Has a disease or chronic illness of some kind.

Hell, talk to a homeless dude somewhere, many of them will have stories. Plenty of them die on the street every day.


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o0shotty0o wrote:No i watched a documetary called sicko , he shows footage of someone dieing outside a hospital becaus he couldent show that he had any insurance or money.

That guy's documentaries present a significant number of false situations and facts. Micheal Moore is not a trustworthy documentarian, he's a propagandist. He edits interviews, falsifies quotes, and presents hearsay as fact.

Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Welcome to Massachusetts. 2nd best state for your kids to grow up in. Besides New Hampshire. But no-one cares about Cow Hampster.


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Also, hello again.

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

Chowderhead wrote:

Welcome to Massachusetts. 2nd best state for your kids to grow up in. Besides New Hampshire. But no-one cares about Cow Hampster.


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Also, hello again.

Lol what has that got to do with healthcare?

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Neither one of those countries rank number one in general health or longevity of population, so neither have the best in the world by most observable measurements.

o0shotty0o wrote:

Chowderhead wrote:

Welcome to Massachusetts. 2nd best state for your kids to grow up in. Besides New Hampshire. But no-one cares about Cow Hampster.


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Also, hello again.

Lol what has that got to do with healthcare?

Sorry, forgot to mention that it's the best place because of the fact that you can't be denied health insurance.

o0shotty0o wrote:No i watched a documetary called sicko , he shows footage of someone dieing outside a hospital becaus he couldent show that he had any insurance or money.

Never believe Michael Moore.

Anyway, the best country is in the country of which you are a permanent resident, generally speaking, and if we're confining the conversation to develop states.

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

631,636 Americans died of heart disease in 2006.

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

What has that got to do with healthcare ? And you know how meany people get shot in us ? thats more than comparible.

o0shotty0o wrote:

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

What has that got to do with healthcare ? And you know how meany people get shot in us ? thats more than comparible.

You're all fething terrible at discussing healthcare facts.

ShumaGorath wrote:

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

631,636 Americans died of heart disease in 2006.

Yeah, but the US has about 5 times as many people as France does.

ShumaGorath wrote:

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

631,636 Americans died of heart disease in 2006.

I lol`d hard .


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Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

631,636 Americans died of heart disease in 2006.

Yeah, but the US has about 5 times as many people as France does.

WHAT ? usa has 250 million people ?

ShumaGorath wrote:

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

631,636 Americans died of heart disease in 2006.

Let's do some math, eh Shuma?

There are 62,616,488 people in france. There are 307,006,550 people in the US. Also, he said for one season, not one year. So, let's math this gak.

157,909 (estimated) died of heart disease in the summer of 2006. Now, let's math that some more.

1 out of every 1950 people (approximate) will die of heart related deaths in the US in 2006.

1 out of every 4230 (approximate) died of HEAT related death. That's not a small difference between heat and heart. That's fething bad.

Oh, and 668 people died of HEAT related deaths in 2003 in the US, to put that into perspective.

o0shotty0o wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

631,636 Americans died of heart disease in 2006.

I lol`d hard .


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Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

631,636 Americans died of heart disease in 2006.

Yeah, but the US has about 5 times as many people as France does.

WHAT ? usa has 250 million people ?

The US has over 300,000,000 people.

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

631,636 Americans died of heart disease in 2006.

Yeah, but the US has about 5 times as many people as France does.

It still maintains significantly higher rates of heart disease. Americas not a healthy country by most measures.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

631,636 Americans died of heart disease in 2006.

Yeah, but the US has about 5 times as many people as France does.

It still maintains significantly higher rates of heart disease. Americas not a healthy country by most measures.

Heart does not equal Heat, Shuma. Read the post.

CptJake wrote:
Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

Its amusing that you think heat related deaths are medically preventable.

Oh my .... thats alot of people.Ok lets stay on subject though i dident create this thread to talk only about america.Any other brits out there ?

o0shotty0o wrote:Oh my .... thats alot of people.Ok lets stay on subject though i dident create this thread to talk only about america.Any other brits out there ?

It's too late, Shotty.

Yup, sadly the NHS has been awesome for me, so no issues.

Chowderhead wrote:It's too late, Shotty.

No, I think not. I just don't know how to change the damn icon.

Chowderhead wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

CptJake wrote:

o0shotty0o wrote:Ok but i wasent really talking about america i was wanting to highlight france and the uk

Except you did talk about the US.

France, 2003: 14,802 heat-related deaths in one summer.

Great frickin country that is huh? Show me something comparable in the US.

631,636 Americans died of heart disease in 2006.

Yeah, but the US has about 5 times as many people as France does.

It still maintains significantly higher rates of heart disease. Americas not a healthy country by most measures.

Heart does not equal Heat, Shuma. Read the post.

Oh, my bad. I guess I've never seen people present heat related mortality as some sort of state healthcare issue. Generally presented as a natural disaster related issue in the context of heatwaves. Next time I'll read your posts more carefully lest they not make any sense, like now.

Let's all take a step back, and think about what we're posting. Debate, but do so politely.

Goddard wrote:Let's all take a step back, and think about what we're posting. Debate, but do so politely.

You're not likely to find a debate here.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Goddard wrote:Let's all take a step back, and think about what we're posting. Debate, but do so politely.

You're not likely to find a debate here.

Then lets not have an argument instead.