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http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Warpath/Warpath-Army-Deals/Product/Ultimate-Warpath-Deal.html

Please note this product is currently available to pre-order and will ship in November.

Warpath is the mass combat science fiction game written by Alessio Cavatore, from Mantic Games. Warpath is easy to learn, highly tactical and very bloody. This exclusive army deal pitches two huge Marauder and Forge Father armies against each other, each including a variety of finely detailed plastic infantry, heavy weapons and vehicles, and two metal heroes. This Ultimate Warpath Army Deal includes everything you need to get gaming with your Warpath army including dice, a FREE printed copy of the rules, as well as a FREE Limited Edition Warpath T-shirt.

Number of Miniatures: 137 and 6 Vehicles

Product Type: Miniatures

Unit Type: Army Deal

This Set Includes:
•1 x FREE Printed Warpath Rules
•1 x FREE Limited Edition Warpath T-shirt
•1 x FREE Metal Forge Father Hero
•1 x FREE Metal Marauder Warlord
•30 x Plastic Forge Father Steel Warriors
•15 x Plastic Resin Forge Fathers with Heavy Weapons
•3 x Plastic Resin Jotunn Heavy Hailstorm Cannons
•70 x Plastic Marauder Grunts
•20 x Plastic Marauder Rifle-Grunts with Heavy Weapons
•3 x Plastic Resin Marauder Attacksters

Models supplied unassembled and unpainted

£150.00

Nice deal but, show us some images of the miniatures though, you know, before we commit to buy.

Show me the sprues!

Yeah, buy a bunch of models that you don't what they look like or even if you'd like them!

Great idea and an awesome marketing strategy. /sarcasm

I like Mantic but they've got to be off their rockers if they think I'll throw that much money at them for a product that isn't even in production yet and there are no previews for except for a few pics of a couple of WiP models.

Hmmm trying to sell product with no pictures. GW should be taking notes from these guys.

You can take the people out of GW but cannot take the GW out of the people. Marketing - why has it suddenly become a dirty word and needs to be avoided at all costs.

After seeing the Orx and Forgefather heroes they've shown, I'm confident that the models in these sets will be good.

...but not confident enough to drop that kind of money on them sight unseen.

I like how you get "6 vehicles". What kind of vehicles? How big are they? Are they tracked, wheeled or flying?

Give me a break. I'm not a GW lover but at least I get to see what I'm buying.

fullheadofhair wrote:You can take the people out of GW but cannot take the GW out of the people. Marketing - why has it suddenly become a dirty word and needs to be avoided at all costs.

When they show what you actually get for £150.00 then I will be able to make a decision.

This is pretty poor marketing or maybe clever - who knows (what the minis actually look like).

They did the same with their Chaos Dwarf army deals, not showing any pictures of the rank and file models until after the big boxes were sold out.

Yep. I'd be a lot more tempted -- or not, potentially -- if I knew what the models looked like. It's hard to even qualify how good of a deal this is without some visual info.


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BrookM wrote:They did the same with their Chaos Dwarf army deals, not showing any pictures of the rank and file models until after the big boxes were sold out.

And I have to say that I'm glad I didn't fall for that, despite loving the idea of Chaos .. ahem, Abyssal Dwarves.

BrookM wrote:They did the same with their Chaos Dwarf army deals, not showing any pictures of the rank and file models until after the big boxes were sold out.

Yeah, I almost bought some; I'm glad I didn't because they were not to my taste when they actually made them.

RatBot wrote:After seeing the Orx and Forgefather heroes they've shown, I'm confident that the models in these sets will be good.

...but not confident enough to drop that kind of money on them sight unseen.

Agreed. Im really liking the 2 minis from a page or so ago, but Im going to have to see all the rest before I actually commit money to the deal.

Asking people to throw down that kind of cash on things sight unseen is bad enough, never mind the fact that the release is several months away.

Being that Mantic is a tiny operation Im wondering if they cant afford to produce the minis without upfront sales.

They'll post pictures before November, no reason to get your pants in a knot. I agree it's a little early to do this without pictures though.

I like Mantic, and i am waiting for this minis anxiously... But i will not spend so much money without a pick of the rank and file of every army. I will spend more, but at least i will be spending wisely...

You may be tempted to go for a deal like this with a company that had a history of quality, Corvus Belli's Infinity maybe, Studio McVey.....you know these guys have the capability to wow you at every release, so you might be tempted to take a flyer and trust in their ability to bring home the bacon......but Mantic?!?

I think these guys are too young and unproven to be asking this kind of trust from the gaming community. Personally I don't like what I've seen from the Warpath range, but then I'm not the target customer, as I probaby wouldn't go for the rest of those lines (viewed or unviewed), but even for guys who liked the first preview miniatures, do you have enough trust in Mantic to shell out (what was) Battle Company money?

This kinda like those who pre order video games and such without any substantial gameplay previews. If you have 100% faith in them, why not. But for the masses (including myself) this is a hefty investment with no clear picture

Patience is a virtue

BrookM wrote:They did the same with their Chaos Dwarf army deals, not showing any pictures of the rank and file models until after the big boxes were sold out.

This is the same thing they have done with all of their models.
Undead, Dwarves, Chaos dwarves, all had army deals on offer long before things were finished.
The idea is, if you commit early, you get a really decent deal.

I don't see a problem with it.
If you don't like to buy without seeing first, you don't have to. But the opportunity is there.

The last time I pre-ordered something without really knowing what it was is when I bought Hellgate: London, that was the frist and last time, no company is ever getting my blind confidence anymore. No matter how good D2 was HG:L was not worth 60$ let alone 10$. Models are even riskier because there is pretty much only the aesthetics that count here so if they screw that up there is no soundtrack or gameplay to redeem the specific models.


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On their blog they said we'd see more stuff during the weekend let's hope that's more than 2 single miniatures this time.

I saw this the other day.. would have considered ordering, but not without seeing more than 2 models.... really dumb marketing there.. like, stupidly stupid. If you don't have products to show yet, then just wait an extra couple of days till you do.. then you won't look like a buncha amateurs.

I'm really just interested in their human stuff anyways, so I'll just wait a while...

poipo32 wrote:Models are even riskier because there is pretty much only the aesthetics that count here ...

That's true and even more complicated than it sounds. Something might come out which 90% of wargamers think is quite good but you may be part of that 10% who doesn't like it. I'm not saying that's probable. More likely, as with the Abyssal Dwarves, the product will be of such quality that only about 10% can really get on board. But you never know. (I'm just imagining all the negative comments about the new DE waves, for example.)


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Necros wrote:I'm really just interested in their human stuff anyways, so I'll just wait a while...

Yeah, don't you have some videogames to buy anyway? Tsk tsk.

Mantic is continuing its amazing blind-purchase strategy.

BEHOLD! They are selling tickets to an event before announcing the venue.

Warpath Launch Party Tickets
Strictly in limited quantities, the Warpath Launch Party celebrates the release of our sci-fi game and miniatures range, and we’re inviting all of you to join in the celebrations with us.
We’ll have the Warpath range available and it will be the first chance to play with Warpath armies as we will be running a number of demos and a large participation game. As with our Open Day, we’ve a range of tickets to best suit you, and we’ll be announcing details of our special guests, timings and location soon.

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Tickets.html?utm_source=Mantic+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=6ad6108c89-Mantic_Games_Newsletter_105&utm_medium=email

It seems to be working for them. There must be loads of people in the world that love throwing money up in the air.

lord_blackfang wrote:Mantic is continuing its amazing blind-purchase strategy.

BEHOLD! They are selling tickets to an event before announcing the venue.

Warpath Launch Party Tickets
Strictly in limited quantities, the Warpath Launch Party celebrates the release of our sci-fi game and miniatures range, and we’re inviting all of you to join in the celebrations with us.
We’ll have the Warpath range available and it will be the first chance to play with Warpath armies as we will be running a number of demos and a large participation game. As with our Open Day, we’ve a range of tickets to best suit you, and we’ll be announcing details of our special guests, timings and location soon.

http://www.manticgames.com/Shop-Home/Tickets.html?utm_source=Mantic+Games+Newsletter&utm_campaign=6ad6108c89-Mantic_Games_Newsletter_105&utm_medium=email

OK, now that is ridiculous. I mean, I assume it's safe to say it'll be somewhere in the same population center that Mantic HQ is located in, but seriously.

I like Mantic, but they're being kind of silly right now.

They named their sci-fi starter “Fate of the Forgestar”. Hmm, see what they did there.

RatBot wrote:OK, now that is ridiculous. I mean, I assume it's safe to say it'll be somewhere in the same population center that Mantic HQ is located in, but seriously.

I like Mantic, but they're being kind of silly right now.

Generally I dislike Mantic's sculpts. Their discount prices (compared to GW models) don't excuse this rotflolstomp of a marketing fiasco, either. I won't be preordering.

I feel their sculpts are very hit or miss. Their Elves are not good. I like their Undead a lot, though, and I think they're better than GW's for the most part. The Warpath models they've shown so far are, IMO fantastic, but I still wouldn't buy the rest of them without seeing them.

I just realized. When you change the currency to USD, the price changes to $50 for all the tickets.

agnosto wrote:I just realized. When you change the currency to USD, the price changes to $50 for all the tickets.

Maybe it includes an economy-class ticket across the Atlantic?

Dont you guys notice they dont have cheap versions of one army only as they did on Kings of War? You have to buy large sets to get one army only. Are they assuming people will buy the Forgefathers only and start using the GW orks many already have? Will they loose sales of the Marauders (Orks)?

from beasts of war:

"Stay Tuned for Warpath Weekend: September 16-18thThis weekend to coincide with the release of the new Warpath models. Beasts of War, in association with Mantic Games, will be running a series of exclusive unboxing videos featuring the brand new Warpath Orx and Forge Fathers… plus something three-wheeled and pretty special."

They have some concept art up for the two different forgefather vehicles included in the deal right now. Sadly, I was looking at the marauder army deal, which I was more interested in, and it had the same concept art for the one vehicle type it comes with.

The forgefathers come with three trikes and three vehicles that look like small versions of a hydra. The marauders come with six trikes.