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Hi All

Whilst sitting at home painting copius amounts of models, I was pondering over past glories and the such in this cool hobby of ours and remembered the time when at school one of my friends tried to field this particular unit at our local GW store:-

A magically/warp enhanced suicide bomber - terminator save roll (2D6 2+ unmodifiable [2nd ed days!]) with (the best bit!) 12" RADIUS not diameter explosion capability S10 hits!!!!!!!!!

He was really taken back when the GW chap laughed in his face and told him (basically) where to stick that model and rule!!!!! He moaned at me for at least an hour stating how 'unfair' it was he could use it! Points-wise -- not expensive!!!

So I was wondering have any of you come across someone who was SERIOUSLY WISHING with a 'special' unit? If you allowed it, did you manage to make the individual cry when they couldn't use it because you had plastered it across the battlefield?!?!?!?

Cheers
Andy

Warp enhanced suicide bombers.......



GENIUS!!!!!!!!!

I spend time learning the rules and getting better at the game while abiding by them. If you ask me to allow you to use custom rules, I'll just say no.

Unless we're in a tourny, and by allowing you to use them you automatically forfeit the match.

inb4 loads of clearly broken actual rules from current edition Codices


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But to answer OP: had a group of regular gaming opponents who didn't like 4ed Biovores. They demanded I play with a rule that instead of placing one Spore Mine and two others in base contact, I just place one SM with a D6 showing how many more are in the cluster. Shrunk the footprint, see?

This went from 'something a GW Redshirt suggested to use when you run out of SM models' to 'this is how it was played in the last official GT (no printout of GT rules to verify this)' to 'GW have made a ruling (no printout of Codex FAQ to verify this)' to dragging over a redshirt to 'tell me how they're meant to be played' - followed by packing the toys away and going home.

had a person trying to say his space marines misslelauncher missles were str 8 ap3... large blast

quite a bargin for a free upgrade for a 10 model squad (didn't knwo the cost at the time)

not knowing the SM codex and being a relatively new plyer I though that was quite powerful... but didn't question it since I didn't know the space marines codex I assumed it was an expensive option.. sad thing is i tied that game (capture and control) or as we call it at my flgs capture and draw)

after that match and a bystander seeing it and not callling the correction when it happened (thnx bud) pointed me to the back of the rulebook where it had weapons listsing ... have made much use of that section since that date

Well, my friend had made some Appoc rules for a 'Flying Brass Scorpion' using the old vehicle construction templates.


the only issue we had with it was that it was a Flyer and no one ever took AA mounts(and what good is a Stormbolter pintle mount against AV12?)

Good grief!! I don't like it when people try to bull a couple of rules to new players!! I had that in a local gaming club a while ago when I was playing 5th ed after a couple of weeks!

Not sure if it's homebrew, but we had a scenario when at the top of every turn we rolled to see if nightfighting applied.

My last FLGS had this rule, well it wasn't exactly a rule but we all kinda went with it just to screw with this one guy but it was "Tau always Lose, no matter what." Lead o some very interesting games with him.

I played against this one kid at my FLGS, and he was playing tau to my orks. But he had this one freaky unit, A single kroot named Broccoli Man he could materialize anywhere on the table at any time, To throw a broccoli at any unit. Broccoli stats are S- Ap-. This didn't disrupt game play much at all, It was just annoying .

btw Hi Dakka Dakka!

MrMoodles: That is why baby cribs are no longer allowed to use lead paint...

It sounds like the most excellent unit ever. There should have been a roll for hit units though. On a 4+, they like the broccoli and can't move next turn because they're busy eating, and on a 3-, they don't like it and spend the whole next turn shouting 'No broccoli!' and can't shoot or assault.

MrMoodles wrote:I played against this one kid at my FLGS, and he was playing tau to my orks. But he had this one freaky unit, A single kroot named Broccoli Man he could materialize anywhere on the table at any time, To throw a broccoli at any unit. Broccoli stats are S- Ap-. This didn't disrupt game play much at all, It was just annoying .

btw Hi Dakka Dakka!

oh lol that is so awesome i want that unit

I can imagine some space marines fighting the Tau and then all of a sudden a Kroot jumps out and yells "BROCCOLI!!!" Tosses a head or 2 at them and then skips away. Kinda like a grimdark Easter Bunny.

Warp Enhance Suicide Bomber = Mini Mobile Nuke?

MrMoodles wrote:I played against this one kid at my FLGS, and he was playing tau to my orks. But he had this one freaky unit, A single kroot named Broccoli Man he could materialize anywhere on the table at any time, To throw a broccoli at any unit. Broccoli stats are S- Ap-. This didn't disrupt game play much at all, It was just annoying .

btw Hi Dakka Dakka!

One of the best first posts i've ever seen. Welcome to dakka, internets have been won.

MrMoodles wrote:I played against this one kid at my FLGS, and he was playing tau to my orks. But he had this one freaky unit, A single kroot named Broccoli Man he could materialize anywhere on the table at any time, To throw a broccoli at any unit. Broccoli stats are S- Ap-. This didn't disrupt game play much at all, It was just annoying .

btw Hi Dakka Dakka!

You can't make stuff like this up!

nectarprime wrote:

MrMoodles wrote:I played against this one kid at my FLGS, and he was playing tau to my orks. But he had this one freaky unit, A single kroot named Broccoli Man he could materialize anywhere on the table at any time, To throw a broccoli at any unit. Broccoli stats are S- Ap-. This didn't disrupt game play much at all, It was just annoying .

btw Hi Dakka Dakka!

You can't make stuff like this up!

Wait, then where does the idea come from?

Not just applied to 40K, but any game where miniatures were used...

... if a miniature fell over, during the course of play, it was out. If it was a wargame, it was dead. If it was D&D or another RPG, it was unconscious until the end of the battle or until another character did whatever was necessary to resuscitate the victim (varied by specific game system).

This made people extremely careful with their dice-rolls, after one particularly excited fireball wiped out 4 out of 5 characters, including the casting mage, as well as a couple additional enemies from the map when the cavalcade of d6 came crashing down.

Dark Scipio wrote:

nectarprime wrote:

MrMoodles wrote:I played against this one kid at my FLGS, and he was playing tau to my orks. But he had this one freaky unit, A single kroot named Broccoli Man he could materialize anywhere on the table at any time, To throw a broccoli at any unit. Broccoli stats are S- Ap-. This didn't disrupt game play much at all, It was just annoying .

btw Hi Dakka Dakka!

You can't make stuff like this up!

Wait, then where does the idea come from?

In the fevered brain of the lead filled individual who had it 'spoken' to him in a dream one night!!!!!

MrMoodles wrote:I played against this one kid at my FLGS, and he was playing tau to my orks. But he had this one freaky unit, A single kroot named Broccoli Man he could materialize anywhere on the table at any time, To throw a broccoli at any unit. Broccoli stats are S- Ap-. This didn't disrupt game play much at all, It was just annoying .

btw Hi Dakka Dakka!

Epic!

Psienesis wrote:Not just applied to 40K, but any game where miniatures were used...

... if a miniature fell over, during the course of play, it was out. If it was a wargame, it was dead. If it was D&D or another RPG, it was unconscious until the end of the battle or until another character did whatever was necessary to resuscitate the victim (varied by specific game system).

This made people extremely careful with their dice-rolls, after one particularly excited fireball wiped out 4 out of 5 characters, including the casting mage, as well as a couple additional enemies from the map when the cavalcade of d6 came crashing down.

Ugh. Seriously? Just another reason to play a dwarf, low center of gravity on my mini.

I'd like to point you over to our Proposed Rules sub-forum, which has it's fair share of bad ideas. Probably the worse I've ever seen was a tyranid special unit that was pretty much invincible. They was the thing was defeated by having it run out of "acid tokens" which it lose each turn if it didn't kill something. Problem was, the thing had a 30" charge range, along side the whole invincible thing.

Luke_Prowler wrote: Problem was, the thing had a 30" charge range

Just last week, someone made another invincible Tyranid that could move 4 feet and assault 4 feet.

maybe I should bust out my old unique Terminator unit?

They were called Purifiers(long before the GK varient) and they were in TDA, had a Heavy Flamer, a Master Crafted LC, were 2 wounds, had a 4+ invuln, and costed 55 points each. They were also Fearless.

MrMoodles wrote:I played against this one kid at my FLGS, and he was playing tau to my orks. But he had this one freaky unit, A single kroot named Broccoli Man he could materialize anywhere on the table at any time, To throw a broccoli at any unit. Broccoli stats are S- Ap-. This didn't disrupt game play much at all, It was just annoying .

btw Hi Dakka Dakka!

Best first post I have ever seen....

you sir, are a GOD!

Best first post I have ever seen....

you sir, are a GOD!

Wow Thank you!

Something else that happened at the same FLGS It wasn't so much a home rule as something we let them get away with.

I was playing orks with another player who was also playing orks on a team
VS a team of tau and space wolves.

The game went overall normal until a drop pod landed and out walked...Tau stealth suits

Okay thats dumb but the worst part is that tau stealth suits are deep striking units

In da begining, when I first started playing Warhammer the guy that got me into the game said we each just put the same number of units on the field. So as you can imagin his 12 units of 3rd edition high elves slaughtered my 12 units of 3rd orcs. When I asked him about the points values in the book he said it was not that important.

House rules are alot of fun, but everyone needs to agree to them and understand the basic rules first. The "most important rule" is to have fun, but that means everyone not just one player or one side.

So, does the Ordo Xenos push Cookies on all the little kiddies then?

I played against this one kid at my FLGS, and he was playing tau to my orks. But he had this one freaky unit, A single kroot named Broccoli Man he could materialize anywhere on the table at any time, To throw a broccoli at any unit. Broccoli stats are S- Ap-. This didn't disrupt game play much at all, It was just annoying .

btw Hi Dakka Dakka!

This post is full of win. I tip my hat to you sir