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Ok so I have some ideas of what races I want for this game BUT I Dont know what type of table-top wargame I want to use them as so without further ado Here are the race I have thought of:

The world will be based on the current world map.

The human colonisations
The human colonisations are humans who want to attempt to bring Mechanical industry into magic (or Magiko as it is called on the forgotten world) and spread their "generosity" on the world...

With their zepplin navy and hulking beamoth of tanks, and the endless legions honour gaurd (the basic troops) armed with rifles If they want something they will get it...

Thats all I have thought up on humans but I know for fact I want Them to be steam punk like hell.

They control Europe

the Archid legions of under-earth

beneath the earth's crust there lies an insidious horror only known as the Archid legions half-spider, half-human all they want is to consume every living things blood they share NO emotion to the upper races and armed to the teeth with their web-guns to ensnare the enemy and enjoy feeling the terror of the prey before consuming them.

They control the inner crust of the earth.

I know that I definitely want these to be centred on spiders and Frankenstein-evolution they all take.

The balefire of the centre

Inside of the earth where it is hottest The bale fire as they are called are monstrous rock-magma daemons that all there intention is to raze the forgotten world into a lava-like paradise, armed with brute strength and the element of lava and endless Artillery they want to ensure their only purpose is for-filled.

I want these to be like rock-magma daemonic like gargoyles with some lava artillery.

The angels

The angels only come when the forgotten world is most threatened, only there angelic mounts of dragons and flying chariots ensure the world stays peaceful and equal.

They live in the sky (obviously)

I want these to be warrior angels I Dont know what else to add to them.

These are the army's I have thought of so far Im trying to invent a sea-monster race controlling the seas.

Like I said I Dont know how to make this into a wargame so any help is appreciated.

And also, I know this maybe a bit slap-dash but im short for time and when I get more time on my hands (soon) I definitely will add more fluff to this (also I gain a sudden brainstorm to this so I WILL add more to this).

Cheers to all comments.

I do think you should add another race basically daemons. Basically they are at war with rock people and are the biggest threat however they are scared of the angels who almost wiped them out. I think you should do a larger type game so that it is not skirmished based like warmachine. I like the idea of little tactics and just two huge forces going to war but it would get boring quickly. Other than that i have know idea.

Edit: If I were to pick a race know then it would be the angels. If they are like how they are in my mind. When im older I was going to make a minature wargame of my own but that is not until the future when im inn my 20's or 30's.

I wanted to have a war against the angels and the balefire.

Also I want magic but I will base it on the elements.

And I want it like two army's clashing, but like 40K style (as in round bases not square units) and nothing like warmachine, and that is the first step into my wargame I guess...

Also when you listen to ride of the Valkyries it dose make an inspiration towards the angels but with these angels I want a female-Spartan warrior based army with wings to represent an angelic fighting force in the game.

Also a mermaid-siren army would be awesome for the sea monster-based race, with Kraken monsters for the big units.

Any more help is greatly appreciated.

Cheers to all comments.

also I will get a generic stat-line for the game's units next time I post.


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redkeyboard wrote:I do think you should add another race basically daemons. Basically they are at war with rock people and are the biggest threat however they are scared of the angels who almost wiped them out. I think you should do a larger type game so that it is not skirmished based like warmachine. I like the idea of little tactics and just two huge forces going to war but it would get boring quickly. Other than that i have know idea.

Edit: If I were to pick a race know then it would be the angels. If they are like how they are in my mind. When im older I was going to make a minature wargame of my own but that is not until the future when im inn my 20's or 30's.

Ill try to take this on bored and will try to make it so you can have a skirmish type game/two army's clashing in one BRB.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Cheers to all comments.

Nice ideas, it will be interesting to watch as the races progress. Is there space for an anti-industry/technophobic group at odds with the colonists? You know what side I'd play.

Humans are a diverse lot. one of the reasons that historical games can be just as interesting as fantasy games is that Humanity has used a blinding variety of fighting styles and cultures throughout the ages. There is really no reason, in my opinion, that fantasy or sci-fi should be any different. even in 40k, where those humans who are not slavering demon worshipeprs are united, the people of Jungled Catachan have little more in common with the people of the barran Urban wasteland of Krieg. so I think even if there is only one human faction, there should be subfactions within it or at least distinct styles and combat doctrines. just because they all hate the fething demons doesn't mean that they are borg.

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:Nice ideas, it will be interesting to watch as the races progress. Is there space for an anti-industry/technophobic group at odds with the colonists? You know what side I'd play.

I agree. There should be a race that is totally anti-tech, e.g: the Orks of 40K.

There should also be a horde army with next to no ranged firepower at all, bar a couple of artillery guns. (e.g. nids)

This sounds interesting, long live indentikit steampunk soldiery!
PS, if anybody has read any old 1920s scifi magazines, then the Spider guys sound a lot like Shelks (spider creatures from neptune who invaded earth and chased humanity underground, reducing them to a tribal state deep beneath the earth for centuries).
The Zeppelin fleet does sound intersting, but surely the angels would fly in, cut them a bit, then watch the whole thing go Hindenburg, but with a dozen zeps at once...

Cheers to all comments since my last post I have created 23 pages of rules for the game.




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KOVAV wrote:Humans are a diverse lot. one of the reasons that historical games can be just as interesting as fantasy games is that Humanity has used a blinding variety of fighting styles and cultures throughout the ages. There is really no reason, in my opinion, that fantasy or sci-fi should be any different. even in 40k, where those humans who are not slavering demon worshipeprs are united, the people of Jungled Catachan have little more in common with the people of the barran Urban wasteland of Krieg. so I think even if there is only one human faction, there should be subfactions within it or at least distinct styles and combat doctrines. just because they all hate the fething demons doesn't mean that they are borg.

Dont worry there are sub factions (which are Europe and they have combined to make the human colonisations).

Britain dose the navy and helicopter support.

France, Spain and Italy produce the zepplin legions.

Germany to turkey produces the tanks and gas warfare.

Norway, Sweden and Finland produces artillery.

Russia Produces the main fighting troops and honour guard (however humans have only colonised half of Russia as the other half has been taken by The Malisk, yes this will be the anti-industry human race you all wanted).

Cheers to any more comments.






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Also:

Wanted:

Artists, im not good with drawing so if anyone wants to help create the art of the forgotten world, just give me a P.M with some of your example work. It will be appreciated, also I will give you some images to show you what I would like to be in the picture.

Fluff Advisor's: I would like help with major battles and probably characters as well.

If you want to help please give me a P.M.

Note: I Dont come on the internet very much so I apologise for a late reply.

Cheers to all comments.


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ok so I shall post the general characteristics statline for models:

L.P= life points (e.g 10,20,100,150,etc)
M=movement (the games measuring is measured in inches)
S=strength
D=defence
R.S=Range skill
M.S=Melee skill
Sv=save
Mo-Moral
Co= coherency (this one was inspired by how fearless a model can be like orks would be quite fearless so could stay quite far apart without getting scared and gretchin are quite cowardly so would stay huddled up, and that was my inspiration for that stat).

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Also when I find out how to use abode flash reader I will make this into a free rulebook (complete with pretty pictures...).

Ok so I do not know how to use abode nor how to copyright so therefore I will post the rules up on this thread.

so people have asked me on an anti-machine human army so I have devised Another army.

The Malisk

The Malisk are a (abet a very large) cult of warlocks who have taken over 75% of Russia(the other 25% is part of the human colonisationists), they despise everything about machines as they think that all they do is pollute the world and destroy Magiko, therefore they want to (as described best in there own words) "save the world" by destroying everything that is part of a factory and anyone who even think that machines are a good idea.

There methods however are not of good of heart as the Magiko they use is one of necromancy and therefore raise the once dead back to life...

They are also very power hungry if there is Magiko to consume for their power they will take it with great interest and will not let anyone (not even their own) get it before them.

well there is your anti-machine human army.

Im also thinking about another undead army but steam punk in america (any thoughts?)

Will soon post a whole load of rules soon...

Cheers to all patience and comments.

IMHO the British should be the elite fighting force with very few numbers. And the Americans and Russians provide the brute fighting force (they're expendable).

P.S I think the Italians should be against the human colinisation but then change sides half way through

There should be Dutch in it who produce the drugs and prostitues and flowers ^^

redkeyboard wrote:IMHO the British should be the elite fighting force with very few numbers. And the Americans and Russians provide the brute fighting force (they're expendable).

P.S I think the Italians should be against the human colinisation but then change sides half way through

I resent the comment about Britian being elite and us Americans being numerous and expendable, but whatever. besides, there are better people for the job, like the chinese! they have like 4 times the population of Russia

Its not the fact that the Americans acan't fight it is just that they are very numerous. The Spetznaz are amazing fighters. But I am just going off numbers of the country. Also the comment orgionally said Europe so the Chinese are not included. But neither ther the USA but it is just that they normally fight along side Birtain.

KOVAV wrote:

redkeyboard wrote:IMHO the British should be the elite fighting force with very few numbers. And the Americans and Russians provide the brute fighting force (they're expendable).

P.S I think the Italians should be against the human colinisation but then change sides half way through

I resent the comment about Britian being elite and us Americans being numerous and expendable, but whatever. besides, there are better people for the job, like the chinese! they have like 4 times the population of Russia

Ok this is why I dont want to seperate every thing as topic like this comes up

Remember the colonisationists are one...

UPDATE:

People who are helping so far are:

Fluffers:

Master of sanctity
IHateNids
thenoobbomb
Orlanth

Rules helpers:

Happygolucky
IHateNids

I still need artists who can help flesh out the relm, also on the note rules are being discussed at the moment with friend(s) and art work I have currently made for it will be on, in the weekend.

Cheers to all comments.

EDIT UPDATE:

Artists;

Happygolucky
IHatenids
RedKeyBored

I can also be an artist if needs must

I don't mind doing abit of art

MAJOR UPDATE:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/core/gallery-user.jsp?u=45831

Here are the drawings I promised.

I know I probably have the drawing skills of a 7-year old, that is why I need more artists.

Rules are still being discussed (I apologise for the wait)

More drawings are still to come (shall I apply colour?), mainly towards special characters and more stuff for army's to use.

Cheers to your patience and comments.

I am enjoying your progress and will help with playtesting if you want.

happygolucky wrote:UPDATE: Fluff helper(s)

It might be best to change the name as "Fluffers" has certain connections to the Adult Film Industry . It is not something you should google at your age. Definately NSFW

Yes, I'll playtest the dexes I write.

For the Angels I would say a Bow and Arrow best suits them rather than a crossbow. I also think that a traditional long bow would look betetr than a recurve or compound/hunting bow.

redkeyboard wrote:For the Angels I would say a Bow and Arrow best suits them rather than a crossbow. I also think that a traditional long bow would look betetr than a recurve or compound/hunting bow.

you got a point there

Hesh_Tank_On wrote:I am enjoying your progress and will help with playtesting if you want.

happygolucky wrote:UPDATE: Fluff helper(s)

It might be best to change the name as "Fluffers" has certain connections to the Adult Film Industry . It is not something you should google at your age. Definately NSFW

Ok thanks

I may help with the fluff.
PM me with what you got, and Ill see if I can do something

redkeyboard wrote:For the Angels I would say a Bow and Arrow best suits them rather than a crossbow. I also think that a traditional long bow would look betetr than a recurve or compound/hunting bow.

I thought the crossbow suited them because it is more militaristic and long bows are more of a traditional hunters equipment I thought...

They should have crosssbows, and either swords or pikes.

I guess swords would be better...

Longswords, that is
However, pikes seem to have a big 'guardian' feeling on them.

I feel a mix of both would be good along with some with spears for a ranged unit to go with the archers/crossbowers.

I reckon that Shortswords ard Crossbows would be for a in-your-face, close quarters unit. Whereas Longswords &/or spears/pikes should be fora Elite unit.

IMHO