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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:17:50
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/oct/25/border-agent-jaile-arrest-teen-drug-smuggler/
U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
A U.S. Border Patrol agent has been sentenced to two years in prison for improperly lifting the arms of a 15-year-old drug smuggling suspect while handcuffed — in what the Justice Department called a deprivation of the teenager’s constitutional right to be free from the use of unreasonable force.
Agent Jesus E. Diaz Jr. was named in a November 2009 federal grand jury indictment with deprivation of rights under color of law during an October 2008 arrest near the Rio Grande in Eagle Pass, Texas, in response to a report that illegal immigrants had crossed the river with bundles of drugs.
In a prosecution sought by the Mexican government and obtained after the suspected smuggler was given immunity to testify against the agent, Diaz was sentenced last week by U.S. District Judge Alia Moses Ludlum in San Antonio. The Mexican consulate in Eagle Pass had filed a formal written complaint just hours after the arrest, alleging that the teenager had been beaten.
Defense attorneys argued that there were no injuries or bruises on the suspected smuggler’s lower arms where the handcuffs had been placed nor any bruising resulting from an alleged knee on his back. Photos showed the only marks on his body came from the straps of the pack he carried containing the suspected drugs, they said.
Border Patrol agents found more than 150 pounds of marijuana at the arrest site.
**FILE** An unidentified man in Mexico walks near a footbridge across the Rio Grande connecting the United States and Mexico near Acala, Texas, on Aug. 4, 2010. The bridge is one of two structures at opposite ends of a towering $2.4 billion west Texas stretch of steel border fence designed to block illegal entry. Though the International Boundary and Water Commission owns the bridges, which it calls grade control structures, both are unguarded paths into the United States from Mexico. (Associated Press)The defense claimed that the smuggling suspect was handcuffed because he was uncooperative and resisted arrest, and that the agent had lifted his arms to force him to the ground — a near-universal police technique — while the other agents looked for the drugs.
The allegations against Diaz, 31, a seven-year veteran of the Border Patrol, initially were investigated by Homeland Security's Office of Inspector General and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Office of Professional Responsibility, which cleared the agent of any wrongdoing.
But the Internal Affairs Division at U.S. Customs and Border Protection ruled differently nearly a year later and, ultimately, the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Western District of Texas brought charges.
The Law Enforcement Officers Advocates Council said the government’s case was “based on false testimony that is contradicted by the facts.”
In a statement, the council said that because the arrest took place at about 2 a.m., darkness would have made it impossible for the government’s witnesses to have seen whether any mistreatment took place. It said Marcos Ramos, the Border Patrol agent who stood next to Diaz, testified that he did not see any mistreatment of the smuggling suspect.
The council said other witnesses made contradictory claims and some later admitted to having perjured themselves. Such admissions, the council said, were ignored by the court and the government. It also said that probationary agents who claimed to have witnessed the assault raised no objections during the incident and failed to notify an on-duty supervisor until hours later.
“Instead, they went off-duty to a local ‘Whataburger’ restaurant, got their stories straight and reported it hours later to an off-duty supervisor at his home,” the council said. “Then the ‘witnesses’ went back to the station and reported their allegations.”
The council also noted that the teenager claimed no injuries in court other than sore shoulders, which the council attributed to “the weight of the drug load, approximately 75 pounds, he carried across the border.”
The U.S. Attorney's Office for the Western District of Texas, which brought the charges, is the same office that in February 2006 — under U.S. Attorney Johnny Sutton — prosecuted Border Patrol Agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Compean after they shot a drug-smuggling suspect, Osvaldo Aldrete-Davila, in the buttocks as he tried to flee back into Mexico after abandoning a van filled with 800 pounds of marijuana. Aldrete-Davila also was given immunity in the case and testified against the agents.
Agents Ramos and Compean were convicted and sentenced to 11 and 12 years in prison, respectively
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:24:11
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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Poor drug smugglers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:24:55
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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I weep for them. Here, let me help you with that bag...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:29:37
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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Hey, maybe you shouldn't try to smuggle illegal drugs into our country. That sounds like a good idea. There is something seriously wrong with people...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:34:12
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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mega_bassist wrote:Hey, maybe you shouldn't try to smuggle illegal drugs into our country. That sounds like a good idea.
There is something seriously wrong with people...
Hey, maybe the guys meant to uphold the law shouldn't be breaking it. That sounds like a good idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:42:59
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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Hey, maybe we should say that things which are obviously good ideas, sound like good ideas.
That sounds like a good idea.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:43:40
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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Ahtman wrote:Hey, maybe the guys meant to uphold the law shouldn't be breaking it. That sounds like a good idea. I'm sorry, but I could care less if someone that illegally crossed the border with the intent to sell/distribute illegal drugs and is roughed up in the process.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:44:58
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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I don't care about them either, but if it had been an innocent person I'd be rather ticked-- and we have this whole guilty until proven innocent thing so...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:47:34
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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mega_bassist wrote:Ahtman wrote:Hey, maybe the guys meant to uphold the law shouldn't be breaking it. That sounds like a good idea.
I'm sorry, but I could care less if someone that illegally crossed the border with the intent to sell/distribute illegal drugs and is roughed up in the process.
You should stop saying "could care less" and start saying "couldn't care less."
"Could care less" means you care (either a little, some, marginal, or a lot). "Couldn't care less" leave no room for caring at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:49:42
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Melissia wrote:I don't care about them either, but if it had been an innocent person I'd be rather ticked-- and we have this whole guilty until proven innocent thing so...
I particularly like how they gave the drug smugglers immunity. Thats so choice.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:50:43
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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mega_bassist wrote:Ahtman wrote:Hey, maybe the guys meant to uphold the law shouldn't be breaking it. That sounds like a good idea.
I'm sorry, but I could care less if someone that illegally crossed the border with the intent to sell/distribute illegal drugs and is roughed up in the process.
Why do you hate the law so much, yet live in a country that is founded on the idea of the rule of law? If you are willing to just toss it out on mere whims such as this, it may as well not even exist. There are many places in the world you could go to where they don't have these laws getting in the way of roughing people up you don't like.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:54:54
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Ahtman wrote:mega_bassist wrote:Ahtman wrote:Hey, maybe the guys meant to uphold the law shouldn't be breaking it. That sounds like a good idea.
I'm sorry, but I could care less if someone that illegally crossed the border with the intent to sell/distribute illegal drugs and is roughed up in the process.
Why do you hate the law so much, yet live in a country that is founded on the idea of the rule of law? If you are willing to just toss it out on mere whims such as this, it may as well not even exist. There are many places in the world you could go to where they don't have these laws getting in the way of roughing people up you don't like.
Typically at best in a circumstance like this, the perp would walk. Having the cop actually go to jail is unheard of. In addition to apparently being in the pocket of the cartels (same guy prosecuted two agent who got into a shoot out with a drug smuggler) he appears to be super lawyer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 17:56:09
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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Wow.
Just....wow....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 18:04:40
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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Oh, JP. your back, you missed the 'new zombie RP' but oh well...
Anyways.
I...just...gah. if a dugrunner comes illegally over the border with the intent to cause a breach of the peace, I say that you should be able to rough them up a bit if they don't protest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 18:08:40
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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Ahtman wrote:mega_bassist wrote:Ahtman wrote:Hey, maybe the guys meant to uphold the law shouldn't be breaking it. That sounds like a good idea.
I'm sorry, but I could care less if someone that illegally crossed the border with the intent to sell/distribute illegal drugs and is roughed up in the process.
Why do you hate the law so much, yet live in a country that is founded on the idea of the rule of law? If you are willing to just toss it out on mere whims such as this, it may as well not even exist. There are many places in the world you could go to where they don't have these laws getting in the way of roughing people up you don't like.
+1
I would also add where's the outcry about the demand for this man's product? Honestly, he wouldn't be doing this if there was no demand.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 18:14:01
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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ineptus astartes wrote:Oh, JP. your back, you missed the 'new zombie RP' but oh well...
Anyways.
I...just...gah. if a dugrunner comes illegally over the border with the intent to cause a breach of the peace, I say that you should be able to rough them up a bit if they don't protest.
Yeah... only here temp though. Work/RL issues are sucking me dry atm.
What a sad world we live in when an ILLEGAL alien has more rights then the officer arrenting his dumb ass does.
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Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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No kidding.
what I really detest is that these guys are crossing illegally while honest people wait years for a visa. my grandparents had to wait for FIVE YEARS to get their greencard!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 18:21:14
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
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jp400 wrote:What a sad world we live in when an ILLEGAL alien has more rights then the officer arrenting his dumb ass does.
Except he doesn't have more rights, he has the same rights. The law says you can't beat up prisoners, not that they can't beat up prisoners unless they are from Mexico and in that case just go nuts becuase they aren't really people anyway.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 18:22:52
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Ahtman wrote:jp400 wrote:What a sad world we live in when an ILLEGAL alien has more rights then the officer arrenting his dumb ass does.
Except he doesn't have more rights, he has the same rights. The law says you can't beat up prisoners, not that they can't beat up prisoners unless they are from Mexico and in that case just go nuts becuase they aren't really people anyway.
Yes, but this kid was breaking not one, not two, but THREE laws.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 18:23:03
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Right, that's just what local republicans WISH was the law. Automatically Appended Next Post: ineptus astartes wrote:Yes, but this kid was breaking not one, not two, but THREE laws.
... so?
It is completely and utterly irrelevant how many laws you break. Your rights remain the same.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 18:26:38
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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Ahtman wrote:jp400 wrote:What a sad world we live in when an ILLEGAL alien has more rights then the officer arrenting his dumb ass does.
Except he doesn't have more rights, he has the same rights. The law says you can't beat up prisoners, not that they can't beat up prisoners unless they are from Mexico and in that case just go nuts becuase they aren't really people anyway.
The Officer does have more rights... just for the simple facts that he is a LEGAL citizen of the United States and isn't breaking the law on two counts (drug smuggleing and illegal border crossing/immigration).
And according to the article, the Agent didn't "beat up" the "prisioner":
"The council also noted that the teenager claimed no injuries in court other than sore shoulders, which the council attributed to “the weight of the drug load, approximately 75 pounds, he carried across the border.”
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 18:26:50
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Smugglers
1.stop smuggling drugs
2.don't cross illegally into another country while committing a felony in that country.
3.dont get caught
CBP (pre-this kind of garbage)
1. Stop the flow of illegal immigrants and drugs
2. Utilize legitimate detention practices.
3. Discourage future violations
CBP (post-going to jail to lifting up on a felons arms)
1. wave to the illegals and drugs they carry on the way by
2. Offer them a water bottle
3. Ask if they need directions
4. Invite them over for tea
If I was a CBP agent I'd view this guys imprisonment as a clear sign not to detain smugglers, as in do my job. I wonder when or if it's already happened that a Coastie has gone to jail for sinking a cigarette boat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 18:27:32
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I am just miffed about this guy being charged for doing his duty. thats like trying to get troops to fight and not hurt anybody. the Border Patrol has the right to use minor force if the perp is Resisting Arrest.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 18:27:44
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ineptus astartes wrote:Ahtman wrote:jp400 wrote:What a sad world we live in when an ILLEGAL alien has more rights then the officer arrenting his dumb ass does.
Except he doesn't have more rights, he has the same rights. The law says you can't beat up prisoners, not that they can't beat up prisoners unless they are from Mexico and in that case just go nuts becuase they aren't really people anyway.
Yes, but this kid was breaking not one, not two, but THREE laws.
Which has no bearing on the cops prosecution. Again, it goes back to the law not having a clause for doing something illegal becuase the person it was being done against was doing something illegal.
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Frazzled wrote:Typically at best in a circumstance like this, the perp would walk. Having the cop actually go to jail is unheard of. In addition to apparently being in the pocket of the cartels (same guy prosecuted two agent who got into a shoot out with a drug smuggler) he appears to be super lawyer.
Ramos and Compean?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/26 19:03:29
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Yes indeedy!
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mega_bassist wrote:Ahtman wrote:Hey, maybe the guys meant to uphold the law shouldn't be breaking it. That sounds like a good idea.
I'm sorry, but I could care less if someone that illegally crossed the border with the intent to sell/distribute illegal drugs and is roughed up in the process.
Dangerous thinking.
The danger being:
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
There is something to be said for maintaining the moral high ground.
It is what seperates "us" from "them"
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Sybarite Swinging an Agonizer
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CT GAMER wrote:mega_bassist wrote:Ahtman wrote:Hey, maybe the guys meant to uphold the law shouldn't be breaking it. That sounds like a good idea.
I'm sorry, but I could care less if someone that illegally crossed the border with the intent to sell/distribute illegal drugs and is roughed up in the process.
Dangerous thinking.
The danger being:
First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a Jew.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.
There is something to be said for maintaining the moral high ground.
It is what seperates "us" from "them"
The trouble is, in this enviroment, how do you know when you are maintaining the moral high ground, or treading through political agenda muck.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/27 12:38:10
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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Anti-piracy Officer
Somewhere in south-central England.
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Surely the constitution and the law offer a moral framework.
The USA isn't a banana republic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2011/10/27 12:46:21
Subject: U.S. border agent jailed for improper arrest of suspected drug smuggler
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Kilkrazy wrote:Surely the constitution and the law offer a moral framework.
The USA isn't a banana republic.
I concur with this.
While the jailing may have been excessive (I would want to know more about it before saying that), police brutality is not to be accepted even if it's emotionally satisfying to see...
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The people in the past who convinced themselves to do unspeakable things were no less human than you or I. They made their decisions; the only thing that prevents history from repeating itself is making different ones.
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