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Well, I brought some miniatures for my brothers this weekend, and had intended to paint them up for Christmas presents.

A Space Marine Chaplain and a Necron Cryptek.

I was disappointed to say the least!

Some pics (sorry for quality, I quickly snapped them before taking them back):

Space Marine Chaplain











Necron Cryptek







I spoke to the staff and they recognise that they are having problems. I asked how long it will take GW to figure out their new plastic resin, they answered that it was a new technology created by GW.

I guess that answers that then!

The thing that upsets me is this: Thousands of kids will be getting GW presents from families this Christmas, my two brothers (5 and 7) included. How disappointed are they going to feel when they open a box full of holey plastic?

More disappointed than me I would bet. Now, where can I find some decent plastic character models?

(I should add that the Necron weapon sprue was fine. The Rod was a bit bent, but nice and sharp!)

Wow...I got a few finecast items today...and apart from a few small bubbles that I easily filled with liquid GS there was nothing wrong with them :/

Mr Proudhoof wrote:
I spoke to the staff and they recognise that they are having problems. I asked how long it will take GW to figure out their new plastic resin, they answered that it was a new technology created by GW.

I guess that answers that then!

Ehhh, not good. Going to be a lot of christmas presents being returned if this is common. Sucks to get defective xmas pressies, always causes embarrassment.

I'm sure sure it's a 'new technology' though. GW only have a couple of patents for technologies they've created, and anyway I thought the finecast has been done before.

It seems "finecast" is the new "coal in the stocking".

CT GAMER wrote:It seems "finecast" is the new "coal in the stocking".

"If you're naughty, I'll buy you those new Necrons for Christmas!"

insaniak wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:It seems "finecast" is the new "coal in the stocking".

"If you're naughty, I'll buy you those new Necrons for Christmas!"

insaniak wrote:

CT GAMER wrote:It seems "finecast" is the new "coal in the stocking".

"If you're naughty, I'll buy you those new Necrons for Christmas!"

Haha, totally. I will add that it wasn't till I took the pictures that I realised how bad they really were. I was emailing my Dad some pics to see what he thought.

I hope they get it sorted!

They are just as bad as the earliest miscasts which isn't much of an improvement.

I would have figured after 6 months they would have ironed out the kinks or make miscasts a rare phenomenon. I thought this would be especially true with the new necrons since some are new models/molds completely.

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Mr Proudhoof wrote:
I spoke to the staff and they recognise that they are having problems. I asked how long it will take GW to figure out their new plastic resin, they answered that it was a new technology created by GW.

I guess that answers that then!

Ehhh, not good. Going to be a lot of christmas presents being returned if this is common. Sucks to get defective xmas pressies, always causes embarrassment.

I'm sure sure it's a 'new technology' though. GW only have a couple of patents for technologies they've created, and anyway I thought the finecast has been done before.

Maybe thats a good thing. Maybe they'll realize how dumb finecast is and go back to the old ways...HA, not. haha I wish though.

Mr Proudhoof wrote:

I spoke to the staff and they recognise that they are having problems. I asked how long it will take GW to figure out their new plastic resin, they answered that it was a new technology created by GW.

I guess that answers that then!

So exactly what part of spincasting resin is new technology and what part of this did GW actually invent? Spincasting has been around since before GW. Using resin in spincasting has been around as well. This is like Al Gore saying he invented the Internet. Both are funny to hear, but it still doesn't make it true. If this is the official story being pushed out by GW then things are far worse than we are believing they are.

Personally I believe that this is going to be the state of affairs for the EPIC FAILcast product line. GW will just raise the prices to cover the losses from shipping replacements and eventually the Al Gore network will get over it and move onto something else to complain about. It's sad because GW used to be a good company before the bank of scotland got involved.

Tlo1048 wrote:

Howard A Treesong wrote:

Mr Proudhoof wrote:
I spoke to the staff and they recognise that they are having problems. I asked how long it will take GW to figure out their new plastic resin, they answered that it was a new technology created by GW.

I guess that answers that then!

Ehhh, not good. Going to be a lot of christmas presents being returned if this is common. Sucks to get defective xmas pressies, always causes embarrassment.

I'm sure sure it's a 'new technology' though. GW only have a couple of patents for technologies they've created, and anyway I thought the finecast has been done before.

Maybe thats a good thing. Maybe they'll realize how dumb finecast is and go back to the old ways...HA, not. haha I wish though.

If we ever see a decrease in price for metal, then I'm sure we'll see a 'super special edition 'Heavy Metal'' line of miniatures.

Disclaimer: Worglock, yes - that is a hyperbole.

When I said "I'm sure sure it's a 'new technology'", what I actually meant was "I'm NOT sure it's a 'new technology'"

Hope my post makes a bit more sense in general now. Others appear to have used this technology, GW don't seem to be able to get it to work for them. OR they are putting such a high rate of production upon it that the quality control has to slide.


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infinite_array wrote:If we ever see a decrease in price for metal, then I'm sure we'll see a 'super special edition 'Heavy Metal'' line of miniatures.

Actually I suggested it months ago, I think I said it would be called the "citadel vintage range", only for collectors naturally, and at a highly inflated rate.

I called the rerelease of metals Eavy Metal Masters.

Its not that bad just use liquid GS and magic will happen!

Nah just same old finecast problems... with a twist! since the necrons were not made in metal first and the moulds adapted to resin... they are models casted and planned for resin

Wait
what defects whar

Well, the one Finecast model I bought was perfectly fine, so it's obvious to me that all these claims of miscasts are all made up and those pictures are photoshopped, and in any case, I can provide a hundred pictures of a perfectly cast model for every picture of an alleged miscast.

Vampirate of Sartosa wrote:Wait
what defects whar

Um, all of the bubbles everywhere. Esp on the Chaplain's feet. Miniatures are not supposed to look like Aero bars...

Some more inexcusable miscasts there and from the UK too The warped bolt pistol in particular is unfixable.

Honestly the Chaplain doesn't look that bad to me. Sure his feet are very bubbly, and crozius doesn't look so good, but otherwise the model looks fine. The only thing I can see on the jump pack is the flash on the top of the vents (which is excusable on plastic), and the bubble on the back (which would be covered up by his head). While I agree it seems like there are a lot of problems with finecast, these ones do not seem very heinous to me.

Santa's Workshop must have got sucked into the Warp

PraetorDave wrote:Honestly the Chaplain doesn't look that bad to me. Sure his feet are very bubbly, and crozius doesn't look so good, but otherwise the model looks fine. The only thing I can see on the jump pack is the flash on the top of the vents (which is excusable on plastic), and the bubble on the back (which would be covered up by his head). While I agree it seems like there are a lot of problems with finecast, these ones do not seem very heinous to me.

That's not the point. Just because we are capable of fixing these issues does not mean we should. GW pumped Failcast as the equivalent to the moon landing (their words) so we should expect 100% quality. Even the name itself, Finecast, is calling you out to find fault with the models they've set themselves up at the best in the industry and are failing to deliver.

If people keep accepting stuff like this it will continue to happen.

On a side note, I also cannot wait to see the amount of returns due to Failcast models being left too long under the Christmas lights...

PraetorDave wrote:Honestly the Chaplain doesn't look that bad to me. Sure his feet are very bubbly, and crozius doesn't look so good, but otherwise the model looks fine. The only thing I can see on the jump pack is the flash on the top of the vents (which is excusable on plastic), and the bubble on the back (which would be covered up by his head). While I agree it seems like there are a lot of problems with finecast, these ones do not seem very heinous to me.

Uh huh

Well you are entitled to your view, but for many people the casting quality is awful. Aero bar is an apt description.

PraetorDave wrote:Honestly the Chaplain doesn't look that bad to me. Sure his feet are very bubbly, and crozius doesn't look so good, but otherwise the model looks fine. The only thing I can see on the jump pack is the flash on the top of the vents (which is excusable on plastic), and the bubble on the back (which would be covered up by his head). While I agree it seems like there are a lot of problems with finecast, these ones do not seem very heinous to me.

Seriously??! No wonder GW can push this crap when people just accept it. These are just the holes I can see.

Wow. That has to be a nightmare D:

Every time I see one of these Finecast complaint threads I think about the one guy I know who got miscast treads on his Land Raider once.

Has the sky finished falling yet?

solkan wrote:Every time I see one of these Finecast complaint threads I think about the one guy I know who got miscast treads on his Land Raider once.

I know someone that got a space marine tactical box, with only half the bolters

Plastics can be cruel, thankfully a lot rarer though

Howard A Treesong wrote:

PraetorDave wrote:Honestly the Chaplain doesn't look that bad to me. Sure his feet are very bubbly, and crozius doesn't look so good, but otherwise the model looks fine. The only thing I can see on the jump pack is the flash on the top of the vents (which is excusable on plastic), and the bubble on the back (which would be covered up by his head). While I agree it seems like there are a lot of problems with finecast, these ones do not seem very heinous to me.

Seriously??! No wonder GW can push this crap when people just accept it. These are just the holes I can see.

Yeah and all those red dots are a bit off putting...

why the hell do they even make resin? just stick to plastic and there wouldn't be these problems. I mean come on a $25 venomthrope with holes in it. like I feel like were all getting ripped the feth off.

This holiday I'm not gonna risk dissapointment from findcast and just going to buy/ask for plastics it seems...