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2011/12/20 10:43:42
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Fixture of Dakka
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In gameplay, what is your worst Anti Infantry weapon in the entire game.
This is based on the stats of the weapon and points, not the skill of the wielder.
I'll start with the shotgun. For being able to move around you get lower AP, and at 12" it doesn't compare to the Boltgun which is a free upgrade.
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2011/12/20 10:46:51
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Manhunter
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Shotgun is assualt 2. At least in the IG codex. so those scouts can run in and hit them with their pointy sticks.
Worst anti infantry gun... The hot shot las pistol. 6inch range...
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2011/12/20 10:48:38
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Fighter Pilot
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I'd have to disagree with the shotgun as the reason why you take it is because it's an assault weapon. I don't really have a worst one as everyone has advantages and disadvantages.
Like so:
Shotgun
Dis- short range
add- assault weapon with two shots
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2011/12/20 11:23:36
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Long-Range Black Templar Land Speeder Pilot
Indiana
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Somehow, whenever I run my 2x Assault Cannon Terminator Squad they manage to kill nothing. They're embarassing which in turn embarasses me.
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2011/12/20 14:47:33
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Fixture of Dakka
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ninja13 wrote:I'd have to disagree with the shotgun as the reason why you take it is because it's an assault weapon. I don't really have a worst one as everyone has advantages and disadvantages.
Like so:
Shotgun
Dis- short range
add- assault weapon with two shots
What I'm trying to point out is that its a garbage medium. Assault scouts have Bolt Pistols, Shooty scouts have Boltguns. Shotguns have no AP and are Short Range. It has one shot more than the BP, which has an AP and grants an extra attack in CC with an extra weapon. The Boltgun, whilst not allowing assaults, has an AP and longer range, again with a sacrifice in shots.
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BlapBlapBlap wrote:What sort of idiot quotes themselves in their sigs? Who could possibly be that arrogant?
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2011/12/20 14:57:51
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Movac wrote:Somehow, whenever I run my 2x Assault Cannon Terminator Squad they manage to kill nothing. They're embarassing which in turn embarasses me.
The Dice God is a jerk. Automatically Appended Next Post: Movac wrote:Somehow, whenever I run my 2x Assault Cannon Terminator Squad they manage to kill nothing. They're embarassing which in turn embarasses me.
The Dice God is a jerk.
Worst anti-infantry weapon?
Must be Ork Slugga.
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2011/12/20 15:47:26
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Death-Dealing Ultramarine Devastator
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The Laspistol. Ap-, only strength 3 with a 12" range? The jokes on you because you have to have them. On every sergeant.
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2011/12/20 15:52:49
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Krazed Killa Kan
Minnesota, land of 10,000 Lakes and 10,000,000,000 Mosquitos
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Brother Coa wrote:Worst anti-infantry weapon?
Must be Ork Slugga.
Based on the stats of the weapon, not the wielder. The laspistol is worse, both in that it has less 1 strength and less 1 AP. Even if the Ork only hits on a 5 or 6, it's got a higher strength and AP than the laspistol.
Other than that, it's hard to say. I would have to go with the shotgun, if only because I never see anyone run them.
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2011/12/20 15:55:29
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Beaver Dam, WI
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Locclo wrote:Brother Coa wrote:Worst anti-infantry weapon?
Must be Ork Slugga.
Based on the stats of the weapon, not the wielder. The laspistol is worse, both in that it has less 1 strength and less 1 AP. Even if the Ork only hits on a 5 or 6, it's got a higher strength and AP than the laspistol.
Other than that, it's hard to say. I would have to go with the shotgun, if only because I never see anyone run them.
Based on cost, the lascannon. 50 pt marine to kill a 6 pt orc 66% of the time...
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2011/12/20 15:56:26
Subject: Re:Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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The Conquerer
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The Grot Blasta
runner up is the pulse pistol. you will never ever see more then one model with it.
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2011/12/20 16:20:35
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Wicked Warp Spider
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Well, if the las pistol is the worst anti-infantry weapon, then what is a normal CCW - which essentially is a pistol that can't even shoot? You usually don't pay a whole lot for a las pistol to begin with.
The lascannon isn't exactly an anti-infantry weapon.
I'd put Star Cannon up as a candidate. Horrible cost, meant to fry infantry - heavy infantry especially, but is generally worse at it than most weapons which are less than half the price. It's not useless, but most weapons do a better job at a significantly lower price - except the anti-tank weapons which aren't far off.
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2011/12/20 16:30:28
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Kovnik
Bristol
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Damn, somone said pulse pistol before me :p
Honestly based on stats, las pistol.
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2011/12/20 16:42:00
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
England
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Haywire blaster  Automatically Appended Next Post: Grey Templar wrote:The Grot Blasta
haha ok you win
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2011/12/20 16:47:19
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Dour Wolf Priest with Iron Wolf Amulet
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Sniper rifles are up there, since they're gimped by their lack-lustre rules. They're so much better at taking out Monstrous Creatures than Infantry though, for whatever reason.
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2011/12/20 22:23:22
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Perth/Glasgow
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JeneralJoe117 wrote:The Laspistol. Ap-, only strength 3 with a 12" range? The jokes on you because you have to have them. On every sergeant.
I liked the previous when sergeants had a choice of either lasgun, Laspistol or shotgun to go with their CCWs :(
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2011/12/20 23:22:50
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Norn Queen
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Spinefists.
S3, AP- assault 1 twin linked.
They're an upgrade, which you pay for, to the superior Fleshborer. And the fleshborer is already just an assault 1 bolt pistol.
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2011/12/20 23:31:48
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Whiteshield Conscript Trooper
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I think this thread would get interesting if it was about the worst upgrade anti-infantry weapon. Not just the worst weapon that you get on a model that costs ten points or less.
So yes, Spinefists as -Loki- pointed out.
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2011/12/21 03:39:05
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Norn Queen
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Carbonbass wrote:I think this thread would get interesting if it was about the worst upgrade anti-infantry weapon. Not just the worst weapon that you get on a model that costs ten points or less.
So yes, Spinefists as -Loki- pointed out.
Where did the OP omit upgrade weapons? The OP even compares his choice to a free upgrade.
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2011/12/21 03:49:43
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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frag grenades. realy, you might hit something with that small blast template from the grenade launcher, but, most likely scatter. Such low stregnth and horrible AP.
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2011/12/21 04:38:49
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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martin74 wrote:frag grenades. realy, you might hit something with that small blast template from the grenade launcher, but, most likely scatter. Such low stregnth and horrible AP.
They arn't bad when the squad is firing 4 of them.
Besides, the Grenade launcher is for the krak shot anyway.
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2011/12/21 04:43:15
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Lord of the Fleet
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The Strangleweb. S2, wounds against the opponent's Strength value, even Guardsmen are being wounded on 5's.
Or failing that, the Dark Eldar Shadow Beam. S1 Ap-. Enough said.
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2011/12/21 07:45:50
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
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Lasgun, but when you get 30 shots per squad....it evens it out a bit.
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2011/12/21 07:48:02
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Ambitious Space Wolves Initiate
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Grot blasta. I wish there was some other upgrade for the grot squad.
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2011/12/21 15:39:58
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Beaver Dam, WI
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A plasma rifle at 12" in the hands of an imperial guardsmen.
20 points to buy.
about an 8% chance of killing yourself with a 40% chance of killing your target. Russian roulette anyone?
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2011/12/21 17:54:39
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Punisher Gatling Cannon. What is so bad about it is on paper it loos like the greatest anti-infantry weapon, but when you fire it it is mediocre at best. Fire 20 shots, maybe kill 2 models in my experience, better off with an Exterminator Autocannon.
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2011/12/21 19:24:23
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Grey Templar wrote:martin74 wrote:frag grenades. realy, you might hit something with that small blast template from the grenade launcher, but, most likely scatter. Such low stregnth and horrible AP.
They arn't bad when the squad is firing 4 of them.
Besides, the Grenade launcher is for the krak shot anyway.
I understand the krak shot is what is realy used, just, the frag is horrible. What have you ever realy killed with it? Not alot.
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2011/12/21 21:14:15
Subject: Re:Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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2011/12/21 21:17:38
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Terrifying Doombull
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Las pistol or Punisher Auto cannon
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2011/12/22 03:03:29
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Man O' War
Nosey, ain't ya?
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Mortar S3/4 (can't remember) AP6 fun in theory. Not so great in game terms and you usually miss completely anyway
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2011/12/22 04:29:07
Subject: Worst Anti Infantry Weapon in 40K
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Slugga..........
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