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Once again Yang is hosting a tournament at Turn6. For those that don't know much about it here's the thread from the Summer Tournament:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/384943.page

The rules and requirements are the same as last years...Though if you do have any queries just send me a PM and I will give you Yangs information so you can contact him directly. I will be asking him some questions regarding the new Necrons since I plan on taking them this time (though I am once again rushing to get the army built on time). Which reminds me. The tournament begins on Saturday 18th of February. Anyone wishing to sign up better be fast.

Last years Tournament was a blast, if a bit unorganized. The length of the thing is a bit daunting since it's just knockouts each round till the semi-finals. If you wish to take part be prepared for the long haul. I will be discussing with Yang how to make the tournament more efficient time-wise since that was by far the biggest downer for everyone. I will also be doing my best this year to get more pics and will try to encourage other players to send me theirs as well so that's something for everyone to look forward to.

Would love to see some new faces enter the competitive scene over here for those that have the time. Mray01from Dakka took first place last year with his Purifier Grey Knights ...is anyone up to the challenge of knocking him off his top spot?

I know you're bringing your "foamcrons". Cmac I'm guessing is bringing DE. What's Mark bringing? What about other armies you guys may see?

Gamin in Asia sounds like fun!

Cmac may be bringing SW, DE or BA. It depends on what he can get his hands on. Mark should be bringing GK though Vanilla marines are still on the cards. A lot of the guys are being pretty secretive about what they are bringing...we won't see it till it's on the table tomorrow. Other potential worrying armies are Orks (lots played last time with several players getting through to the final stages. Once came 2nd), IG (normally runs fluffy lists but this year he may be pulling out all the stops with an AV12 spam list) and SW. If the SW player joins we are looking at 7 lasplas razorbacks, 15 Longfangs and a lot of Grey Hunters. Ouch. Hoping he makes it to the tourney. If so all the expats are in this year.

Mark and I actually don't play tomorrow though. Since we came in the final 4 last time we get automatic entry through the first round. In Marks case it means he gets to scope out the potential competition and for me it means I get the time to finish my Scythes. Will be heading down to see the games for sure though and will get some pics to put up.


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Oh I would also like to point out that the address has changed since Yang has opened a new store. Can't give it out though as, despite my many, many calls to Yang, he still hasn't told me where it is. Looking to change that today.

The tournament has now begun and I have a few more details to add. Finally got the address for those who want to swing by: 643 Hankou Road near People Square. It's a nice place in a convenient location. 3 gaming tables (though only 2 are being used for tournament play) and a lot of stock.

There are 4 groups, 1 with 8 players, 3 with 7. Each group has 1 of the top 4 players of last years tournament and 3 of them are auto-in. To create a match-up for the additional player in the final group it was randomly determined which top player from last time wouldn't go through the first round automatically. It's me!!! So I have to fight for the privilege VS a BA player. my first round game is Saturday next week.

Managed to see 2 games going on yesterday though I only took a handful of pics of one of them since the wife dropped by for lunch. Will be posting them later on. It was Sun's WWP DE vs a new SW player. Despite the fact that Sun is a vet he was out of practise and it showed. The new guy had 2 golden opportunities to take the game and put himself in a strong position. All he needed were a couple of dice rolls. But it wasn't to be. Towards the end it was looking like a tabling and all the scoring units were gone from the SW side so they called it. I'll try to clarify the lists when I get the pics.

The other game going on was BA vs a lot of Orks. When looking at the table it was obvious the BA player had thrown a load of points into expensive characters and upgrades...perhaps 20 models on the table total. We imagined the Ork player was going to just stomp all over him. When they called it it was the BA player who took the victory. All his Ork mobs had no PKs.10 Nob Bikers, no PKs. It was crazy.

Today is Mrays first game. I think he is facing the BA player, though I can't confirm since other games did happen after we left. I have asked him to get pics though.

In other (related) news Cmac bought Mech DE and Mray is running a different Purifier list. Should be a fun tournament, though Mark and I are giggling about the groupings. Cmac, Sun, a vet Chinese player (came 2nd last time...this time he has Daemons) and the host (Yang) are all the same group. A lot of people are going home early

I think Mark's Purifier GK's are going to be a tough army to play against. Luckily for the fragile DE and your scythe-crons, he's only bringing 3 dreads. Unfortunately for you guys, they are venerables (I think). His purifiers kind of look like my army, though with 1 less dread.

Nob bikers without a PK?!? That's certainly interesting indeed. Sounds like the BA player is playing Dante, Mephiston, sanguinary guards and perhaps stormravens? Well, unorthodox army versus unorthodox army....

Interested in hearing more about the tournament. I think you have a very good necron army, though you may struggle against shooty MSU armies.

Yip, looks interesting enough.

Currently, I really like the play style of the BT's, but its just not quite right codex wise at the moment, so BA's are the next best choice. Wanted to run an AV 13 wall with some DOA but couldn't get the 6 preds in time. So yeah, modified the DE list for the expected meta and came up with;

Haem w Liq
Wyches x 8, hek, ag, hw gren in raider w FF and NS
Warriors x 5, blaster in venom w SC and NS (x2)
Warriors x 5, blaster in raider w FF and NS (x2)
Wracks x 3, raider w FF and NS
Trueborn x 4, Blaster x 4, venom w SC and NS (x3)
Ravager w FF and NS (x3)

12 Vehicles, 29 Dark Light weapons, 60 poison shots.

With Lukas's scythe spam, AI and CC have been removed as a necessity and points spent here are wasted. There is a good chance the foam pancakes may make it far in the tournament and I was expecting to face 6 psy dreads so I loaded AT heavy. I'm mostly worried about horde armies.

Game 1

Wow, razor spam SW right off the bat.

Rune Priest - chooser of the slain, storm caller, living lightning
Lone wolf
4 T/L las razors
4 Las/plas razors
5 man squads of GK with melta x 5
Wolf guard with combi melta and PF x 4 w DP
LF x 6 x 3 ML
Scouts w melta and PF

We swapped lists a day before the game and this is a tough matchup for my girls. 15 ML, 8 lascan and LL with chooser. Chooser meant I couldn't snipe the empty pod and scouts then go hide. Potentially he can demech me in 1-2 turns.

KP's and pitched battle, DE get initiative. He forgot to deploy his LW so I let him reserve it.

With KP's I figured I had to go for the throat, I set up in the middle looking to alpha, he castled in a corner and deployed the scouts infiltrating to bait me on the far side. Didn't seize...... Wolf guard went with the LF's, which seemed a bit odd, but they made 8/9 saves as ablative wounds.

DE t1: All bar 1 trueborn squad and the wyches who boost to get those fangs get to a firing position, full disembark from the girls and the sky darkens with the rain of death.

Alpha nets;
4 dead RB's, unfortunately one stays as a cover shield for the rest of the game.
1 Immo RB
1 WD RB
2 dead GK's from explosions, 1 pinned squad
6 dead LF's (1 may be a WG)

Happy with the result with the aggressive move.

KP 4-0

SW t1: His vehicles are blocked in apart from a WD RB which moves up to disembark a squad to hit some trueborn but they fluff. LF's and remaining RB's stay put and get 4 of my vehicles and a few girls in explosions. This game I made 8 Ld tests and failed 6. Heh. A warrior squad below half falls as do a tb squad who regroup. Wyches pinned, which was annoying as I wanted them to silence the LF's next turn.

KP 4-5

DE t2

TB regroup. Currently below on KP's but we get to blaze away this turn. Most of the army gets back in the transports and we shuffle 6". The remaining razorbacks are cleared or neutered and dark light can turn to LF's. One squad of LF's is killed and another reduced to 2 who fail, run but then get back into it. The scouts have been ignored in their corner. DP killed, and closest 5 man cleared.

KP 10-5

SW t 2

The remaining LF and RP get a kill and he calls it, it was getting late and his hot Chinese GF came in so he had better things to do but the game was gone. Nice guy to play.

Summary and thoughts
- guy had a strong scary list but forgot his storm caller and the LW deployment. He moved and deployed well to get the 3+ cover save but the alpha really got him
- NS's are awesome. I could have used them to run from the LF's, but LL could have been 1 KP/turn. The huge benefit they had was neutering the plentiful melta, bolter (tesla, psycannon) etc. Saved me 2-3 vehicles which could then get me KP's. It also creats different "happy zones" for every army which changes your deployment and strategy which keeps the game interesting. Then switch to WWP for a while, its a nice army.
- Wouldn't mind some grisly trophies
- I didn't need CC
- 29 dark light weapons helps demeching the opponent
- 5 venoms is still good

The Next Match

I will play a girl soon She is a BA player who is smart and knows the rules like a woman knows her inner bits, Lucas and Mray have played her before I believe.

Her list (draft, should receive tomorrow)
Meph
The 2+ FNP dude
SR with all the guns
LR's x 2
Assault squads
Libby Dread
DC Dread
Bike squad

Looks interesting, the LR's and SR's can make short work of my force which doesn't like split fire. If I get first turn, I will probably force her into reserve otherwise its an easier alpha than the SW's, but the game has dice. If she gets first turn, i'll have to weigh up the situation depending on mission (of course).

Sun played a Fate Crusher list today with his WWP DE. 2 obj. Unfortunately Sun didn't have enough shooting to utilise the mobility bonus to soften the force before it hit. Sun's core CC was destroyed but he played well to the end to create a draw. He lost on victory points as the main bulk of the demons were still rampaging.

So, the remaining demon player who plays me or the BA girl to go to the semi's is;

Fateweaver
Bloodthirster
3? x 5 Nurgle troops
8 Bloodcrushers
Soul Grinder
3 Flamers x 2
DP with Pavane x 2
(I think that's it)

Mech DE would be a horrible matchup for this list. The BA will be a problem though.

I don't suppose anyone got any pics yesterday? Mine will be up either today or tomorrow. Rushing to get the Scythes done now as I had some set-backs with dissolving foam and this week there are only really 3 days to utilize (2 birthday evenings out).

You are playing dudu next. That means she beat Yang. She knows the rules well but she gets intimidated easily. Last time Mark faced here she tried to keep her Landraider, Mephiston and Stormraven out of psycannon range (while still allowing his psyfleman dreads shots???). If she had gone for the throat with everything she may well have knocked Mark out last time. She's the kind of player that learns from her mistakes though so don't expect an easy ride.

I had a game yesterday (Sunday). Not worth taking pics as my army is not painted and neither was the other guys.

Recap of the game...

Me: Purifier Grey Knights

Crowe

3x Ven dread autocannons psybolts (one has searchlight)

2 x Purifiers: warding stave, 2 psyncannons, rhino, searchlight

2 x Purifiers: MC Hammer, 2 x halberds 2x psycannons, rhino searchlight

1 x strike squad: rhino, search light

1 x strike squad: razorback psybolts searchlight

Opponents list:

Blood Angels

Danta
Astorath
2 priests for FNP

Librarian dreadnought in drop pod
Sangunary guard
veteran squad

DC dread
DC
scouts...

Baal
StormRaven


by end of turn 6 he had 1 model left (1 sanguanary guard locked in combat with a ven dred.

I lost Crow (he fought the death company and wasn not being conservative, fluffed his hits, and failed his 2+ saves :(

1 Purifier squad - dante and sanguanary guard killed him


--- like clubbing a baby kitten.

Don't worry about painted or not painted, just take pics if the opportunity presents itself and post them up. I plan on doing just that with all the games I get to see.

Like I said dude, we got lucky match-ups pre-semis. Will get much tougher once we get through to beat up on each other. I feel sorry for all the great gamers in Suns group who are getting knocked out just because of the groupings, but that's the way the cookie crumbles. Though it may mean something less brutal might make it through to the semi's from the other group that no-one competitive is in. Would be great to see a new player make it that far.

So I don't know the guy I'm facing but he is also bringing BA to the party. Yang gave me his list and it's something like:

Mephiston
Sanguinor

5x Assault terminators (3x TH/SS, 2x LC)
dedicated regular Landraider
San Priest
San Priest

10x marines w/ flamer, ML, PF
5x Scouts w/ Sniper rifles
5x Scouts w/ PF

Vindicator
Vindicator
Dev Squad w/ 4x ML

I think that's it. Looking at the list it seems very click and play. Throw your hammers forward while staying in that 6" bubble and try to keep your Troops at the back with a San Priest for added resiliency. I might be able to take advantage of this with my Doom Scythe lines and CC Barges, but he is fast and that could cause problems if he gets first turn and I haven't deployed well. Will see how it goes.

So this is what I got from Sun's first game. DE win first turn but in a twist of fate SW steal. Seize ground (3 objectives with Tau Stealth suits as objectives...Scout is CotS for the Rune Priest). :


The lists (from memory and not entirely accurate):

DE
2x Haemi w/ Portal. 1 w/ shattershard
4x blaster born. Dedicated venom
5x Scourge. 2x Heat Lance
5/6 Reavers. 2x Heat lance
5x Wracks
Talos
15x Wyches w/ agonizer and haywires
15x Wyches w/ agonizer and haywires

SW
Logan
Rune Priest w/ living lightning and JotWW. CotS

10 Wolf Guard w/ wound allocation. Some termi suits w/ CML and TH/SS
10 Wolf Guard w/ wound allocation. Some termi suits w/ CML and TH/SS
10 Wolf Guard w/ wound allocation. Some termi suits w/ CML and TH/SS

6x LF w/ 5x ML
6x LF w/ 5x ML
6x LF w/ 5x ML

I mentioned it before but I figured now the details are up I can say where the key game changers could have been. 1 was when the SW stole. Here they had a great opportunity to come in Turn 1, use Logan's Relentless on a unit of LF (comnined with 20 pre-deployed bolters as well) and blow away the Haemi in the centre. Unfortunately luck wasn't on the SW side as he failed is night fight roll, even with the re-roll. The 2nd was even more excruciating.

On Turn 2 a lot of DE came in and they pushed hard ready for a crazy assault phase after softening the WG up with shooting. Unfortunately the splinter shooting was mediocre and the DE were forced to assault large squads. All squads passed Counter-attack and then Logan used his Living Legend special rule to give most of the WG 5 attacks each!!! We all thought this was going to end horribly, especially in Logans unit where there was him and 2 TH/SS WG around after Wyches attack. Unfortunately the unit fluffed (2 out of 15 attacks hit) and though these got through the Wyche invulnerable saves it was only enough to force a drawn combat. Elsewhere the other WG were killed to a man before getting to strike due to horrible saves. After that it became a very one-sided game, my wife popped in and I stopped taking pics.

More coming soon

My first round batrep linked here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/432733.page

So how often do you guys play the tournament games? 2/week? It's an interesting format.

Yeah the format takes up quite a bit of everyones time, but it's the only way to make it fit around the players. A lot of guys out here work weekends so doing it over a single one really means a lot of guys miss out. We try to get in at least 1 game a week, though some get in more. I am arranging game 2 for some time this week so pics will be coming after the game.


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Overall the top 4 players will only play 5 games total. Everyone else will play 3. The organization seems to be a bit better than last time so hopefully all games will be done within a month.

why didn't you post the game on this thread luke?

Because technically its a batrep and that has its own section.

My de got taken out on kill points to the ba.

She won first turn, 13 kps v 23.

Got the sr down early enough, but 80+ dark light shots over the rest of the game couldn't kill anything.

She played well and used her dreads for cover for the lr well, credit to her.

Ended 8-6 in kps which gives an indication of the stuff I had left that couldn't function. A problem with the de list, heat lances might need to be included for more reliable killing, sometimes str 8 lance just fails, even in bulk.

First turn a razorback well up with meph inside took 27 dark light shots before perishing to the last one. Wyches then charged a full wound meph and actually won over a few rounds, heh. Reroll to wound was handy.

A number of situations where it would have been better if dice came my way, especially the wyches needing a 5 total for a consolidation and a fleet which would have cleared my area and freed up sme shots. Didn't happen, 2 and 1. Agoniser got against Corello but fluffed twice. 27 chances for a 6 to wound a Sergeant and no 6.

Oh well, thems the breaks! De suffer from a lack of rerolls.

Good luck to those still in!

I might have to become a new dex fanboy.

That's too bad, cmac.

Sometimes your dice just abaddons you, and you're playing on your biggest weakness - kill points.

Better luck next year.


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Oops! I meant "abandons you". Lol.

Thanks buddy.

The DE mech spam seems like one that can go all the way, IF things go right. It hasn't got the reliablility that I like to go with heading into a tournament. For casual games I think I will switch to WWP, its just a fun list to run where any side can dominate. Hence, more fun.

The demon player watched the game and was quite relieved with the BA win ;-P.

Playing the mech DE spam is also a little boring to be honest.

BT's is an army that holds a lot of interest to me, that might be the next project. Any ideas on release dates?

Haven't been keeping up on the rumour mills, but I don't think BT's are coming out anytime soon.

However, BT's are a top-tier tournament build. Most people just don't know it. For some good, solid battle reports, check out Dave Fay's battle reports. He's really good with BT.

Another update. My round 2 game is posted here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/434323.page

Looks great, I've gott a get back China sometime soon.

Could someone there please update the store finder? It's a great tool for those of us who travel a lot.

Not sure how long it takes mods to update the store finder but I have just added 2 new stores as well as deleted Zarks old place. Will try to get his new address today and update that too.

Ok just given my next opponents army list. GK. It's not completely optimized but it is still scary. Looks like:

Crowe
Inquisitor w/ rad and psychotroke grenades

9 purifiers. 2 hammers, 1 stave, 6 halberds
5 purifiers. 2 psycannons and a TLLC razorback
5 purifiers. 2 psycannons and a TLLC razorback
5 purifiers. 2 psycannons and a TLLC razorback
5 purifiers. 2 psycannons and a psybolt razorback

Psybolt dreadnaught
Psybolt dreadnaught
Land raider w/ searchlight.

I could very well be going home tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Good Luck, Lukas. Looking forward to hear how it urns out. That's a pretty tough list to face!

Haha cheers. I think I'm gonna need it. I'm looking at the potential different ways he may use the list. Obviously very shooty but he can't actually use those Psycannons until he comes out of the Razorbacks. So I need to think about how he plans on using them and therefore how best I can counter:

1. He pushes hard with everything. Pops smoke first chance he gets. Then he disembarks midway next turn and just saturates the field with pretty much all the guns in his arsenal.

2. He sits back waiting for me to come at him and pop his Razoracks. Psycannons are essentially used as a counter-shoot unit.

I don't really like either but 2 is probably better for me as I can use mobility to position myself with cover saves and initiate night-fight to reduce incoming fire until my alpha strike resolves.

With number 1 I guess I would be looking at doing my alpha strike with smoke saves on everything. I really don't think I would have enough redundancy to deal with all he would be bringing to bear. Will be doing dice practise and a lot of theoryhammering tonight since I really think this is the option he will take (I know I would).

Ok this is going to have to be a very quick update from me. Unfortunately I didn't get pics of my last game (so no batrep) due to how late the game started, but it was so one-sided it barely matters.

Short version: I got my butt handed to me.

Slightly longer version: I had a plan to avoid his Purifier shooting if possible and play grab the objective (CandC mission)Turn 5/6/7 with my mobility reserved. Unfortunately I got lost in the killing and staryed from my strategy thinking I would be able to hit him hard. Didn't work and I was struggling not to be tabled. my own fault and it's a mistake I won't be making next time.

In other news Mray made it to the semi's and is now facing the GK player that beat me. Will be an interesting match for sure.

Another thing that has come to my attention is that the Chinese community has now started playing a lot better and bringing harder lists than previous years. Previously it was mostly expats who had high rankings. This year only 1 of us has made it through. Can't wait to see what the competition looks like next time.

Lukus83 wrote:Not sure how long it takes mods to update the store finder but I have just added 2 new stores as well as deleted Zarks old place. Will try to get his new address today and update that too.

Thanks!

Luke - you need to post your game..

My game with Imperial guard was quite tough.

Overview:

his List (as I remember):

~5-6 Chimeras with vet squads and meltas (A LOT OF MELTA!!!)
- solo guy that has demo charge
- manticore
- vendetta
- Plasma Leman Russ
- Reg. Leman Russ
- Chemical Hell Hound
- Melta Hell Hound


Mission - 1 objective each
Deplpyment - Corners

Guard wins initiative...

Overall big shooting match, in the end I was not able to contest his objective but I had him pinned in his corner so he could not get to mine. He knocked out my mobility rather quickly, Blew up a Rhino and immobilized 2 first turn, next turn immobilized 2 more...All I really had mobile was the Razor back which ALMOST made it to his objective.

So, ended in a DRAW so we had to go to vicotry points...

He killed:

1 Ven Dred
3 Rhinos

Half Points on:
Crowe - who lost a wound to an exploding Chimera - seriously...
2 Rhino
1 Razorback (BTW - one of my rhinos actually reparied its immobilize result on the last turn )
2 Purifier Squads

Overall he got about 700 VPs

I killed:

2 Hellhounds
Plasma Leman Russ
Dude with a demo charge
vendetta
3 chimeras
1 vet squad

Half points on

1 chimera
2 vet squads

I got about 1000-1100 VPS so Victory to me

Below are some of the pics - game got a bit too intense towards the end so i forgot to take photos

Some photos

Sorry but this is all i had as i forgot to take more photos


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also, I deployed relatively spread out because of the manticore...i figured up to three STR 10 shots would wreck my entire army if i did not spread out a bit