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Hey guys I wanted to know do they use valkyries because I thought about getting one for my diorama, I know they use chimeras so by rights they should be able to use them to ferry inquisitors around. What forge world doors would I need to get to replace the back door.

As far as background goes yes they use them and they are in one of the Imperial armour books (either 1 or 2 IIRC). I do not believe they are in the GK codex however.

Wait wait wait...are you asking if GK can field valkyries in a game of 40k? Or is this a fluff question?

In game no (read your dex!)

In fluff...well the GK don't use valkyries, but the inquisition certainly does.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Wait wait wait...are you asking if GK can field valkyries in a game of 40k? Or is this a fluff question?

In game no (read your dex!)

In fluff...well the GK don't use valkyries, but the inquisition certainly does.

Fluff wise the Inquisition can use ANY Imperial vehicle so I'm not really sure what the OP's question is.

Joey wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Wait wait wait...are you asking if GK can field valkyries in a game of 40k? Or is this a fluff question?

In game no (read your dex!)

In fluff...well the GK don't use valkyries, but the inquisition certainly does.

Fluff wise the Inquisition can use ANY Imperial vehicle so I'm not really sure what the OP's question is.

Yeah, I don't either. It's not really clear

What I mean is could grey knights use them to transport inquisitors from place to place.
And the back door/hatch on a valkyrie looks like the back door to a rhino so could I replace it with forge world Inquisition doors.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Joey wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Wait wait wait...are you asking if GK can field valkyries in a game of 40k? Or is this a fluff question?

In game no (read your dex!)

In fluff...well the GK don't use valkyries, but the inquisition certainly does.

Fluff wise the Inquisition can use ANY Imperial vehicle so I'm not really sure what the OP's question is.

Yeah, I don't either. It's not really clear

It's in Background so i suppose we can assume...

purplefood wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Joey wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Wait wait wait...are you asking if GK can field valkyries in a game of 40k? Or is this a fluff question?

In game no (read your dex!)

In fluff...well the GK don't use valkyries, but the inquisition certainly does.

Fluff wise the Inquisition can use ANY Imperial vehicle so I'm not really sure what the OP's question is.

Yeah, I don't either. It's not really clear

It's in Background so i suppose we can assume...

Ai, that's what thought...and then he talked about getting one for his GK, and that just complicates things.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

purplefood wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Joey wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:Wait wait wait...are you asking if GK can field valkyries in a game of 40k? Or is this a fluff question?

In game no (read your dex!)

In fluff...well the GK don't use valkyries, but the inquisition certainly does.

Fluff wise the Inquisition can use ANY Imperial vehicle so I'm not really sure what the OP's question is.

Yeah, I don't either. It's not really clear

It's in Background so i suppose we can assume...

Ai, that's what thought...and then he talked about getting one for his GK, and that just complicates things.

Funny place the Internet...
Lets assume both...
1)No GK cannot take Valkyries in their armies as it isn't present in the codex.

2)Yes Inquisitors can use Valkyries along with any other imperial vehicles.

Well what I mean is it is not to field it but it is for a diorama which I am building with a Inquisitor being greeted by a captain of the blue tigers and there will be a inquisition valkyrie in the background.

WARHAMMER40KWARGAMES wrote:Well what I mean is it is not to field it but it is for a diorama which I am building with a Inquisitor being greeted by a captain of the blue tigers and there will be a inquisition valkyrie in the back ground.

Please use basic grammar and punctuation. They are your friends.

Well, if its just a diorama then it should be fine.

WARHAMMER40KWARGAMES wrote:Hey guys I wanted to know do they use valkyries because I thought about getting one for my diorama, I know they use chimeras so by rights they should be able to use them to carry inquisitors around. What forge world doors would I need to get to replace the back door.

Inquisitors can requisition any Imperial Vehicle for transport.
However, only Inquisitors can ride in them ( exception being SoB who are going with him). Grey Knights use massive teleports or Thunderhawks while Deathwatch use Thunderhawks to.
If you are more interested buy IA volume 2, there you can find all you want to know about SM, SoB and the Inquisition vehicles.

I might as well leave it out.
Save up and buy a forge world vulture.

A Valkyrie's crew/cargo-space is only large enough to hold between 4 and 6 Space Marines. A GK is in no way, shape, or form an Inquisitor's chauffeur, so is not going to be flying the Valkyrie to schlepp an Inquisitor anywhere... this is even assuming he could squeeze into the cockpit, which he can't.

The =I= uses Valkyries all the time, they're a great gunship for sub-orbital transport when you don't care who knows you have big guns and aren't afraid to unleash hell on someone. As Abnett wrote, "Never argue with a gunship".

The SM "equivalent" to the Valk is the Thunderhawk.

Pretty snazzy paint job, too.

Definitely. Lore wise, the inquisition has pretty decent access to all of the Imperial equipment.

WARHAMMER40KWARGAMES wrote:What I mean is could grey knights use them to transport inquisitors from place to place.

Why would Grey Knights transport Inquisitiors?

Inquisitors are their SUPERIORS, not their subbordinates.


Inquisitors can EASILY get something as minor as a single valkykrie for personal transport, heh.

A Grey Knight is a powerful, potent weapon for fighting Chaos. He's the sword against daemons, the hammer with which to smite Chaos, the burning brand used to incinerate witches and heretics.

One thing he certainly is not is an Inquisitor's personal driver. They make servitors, or Interrogators, for that.

Melissia wrote:

WARHAMMER40KWARGAMES wrote:What I mean is could grey knights use them to transport inquisitors from place to place.

Why would Grey Knights transport Inquisitiors?

Inquisitors are their SUPERIORS, not their subbordinates.


Inquisitors can EASILY get something as minor as a single valkykrie for personal transport, heh.

Psienesis wrote:A Grey Knight is a powerful, potent weapon for fighting Chaos. He's the sword against daemons, the hammer with which to smite Chaos, the burning brand used to incinerate witches and heretics.

One thing he certainly is not is an Inquisitor's personal driver. They make servitors, or Interrogators, for that.

Just to reconcile these two posts:

Grey Knights are of their own independent chain-of-command from the Inquisition, not part of the Inquisition. It's just that Inquisitors are the ultimate authority next to their superiors in the Inquisition and the High Lords of Terra, so a GK best do as an Inquisitor tells him. On the table, GK fly in Stormravens while Inquisitors take Chimeras. In the fluff, an Inquisitor wouldn't normally travel around with GK. Inquisitors are investigators and GK are to be called upon for worst-case-scenario daemonic situations. And Inquisitors can requisition whatever transport they like.

Sturmtruppen wrote:

Melissia wrote:

WARHAMMER40KWARGAMES wrote:What I mean is could grey knights use them to transport inquisitors from place to place.

Why would Grey Knights transport Inquisitiors?

Inquisitors are their SUPERIORS, not their subbordinates.


Inquisitors can EASILY get something as minor as a single valkykrie for personal transport, heh.

Psienesis wrote:A Grey Knight is a powerful, potent weapon for fighting Chaos. He's the sword against daemons, the hammer with which to smite Chaos, the burning brand used to incinerate witches and heretics.

One thing he certainly is not is an Inquisitor's personal driver. They make servitors, or Interrogators, for that.

Just to reconcile these two posts:

Grey Knights are of their own independent chain-of-command from the Inquisition, not part of the Inquisition. It's just that Inquisitors are the ultimate authority next to their superiors in the Inquisition and the High Lords of Terra, so a GK best do as an Inquisitor tells him. On the table, GK fly in Stormravens while Inquisitors take Chimeras. In the fluff, an Inquisitor wouldn't normally travel around with GK. Inquisitors are investigators and GK are to be called upon for worst-case-scenario daemonic situations. And Inquisitors can requisition whatever transport they like.

Read the Siege of Vraks series of IA books. It clearly shows that the Grey Knights travel with and fight along side Inquisitors.

Well. If the old stuff is still valid - the "Inquisitor RPG" does point out that the Grey Knights are basically owned by the Inquisition. They're one of "the Inquisition's own fighting formations" was the exact wording, I believe.

From what I've heard so far, the 5E Codex doesn't exactly go into a lot of detail on whether this has changed or not, only that it's still the Inquisition's Chamber Militant. Well, of the Inquisition as a whole, now.

The problem is the Inquisitor RPG tried to create the Inquisition as a complex secret police organization, a KGB on steroids. Ward however can't accept Space Marines bowing to anyone nor does he care about established canon, so he basically made the GK the sole fighting force of the Inquisition while Inquisitors themselves are kind of tag alongs and advisers. Ward in effect is attempting to make the Inquisition an intelligence and auxilliary branch of the Grey Knights, and that's what their codex reflects.

Harriticus wrote:The problem is the Inquisitor RPG tried to create the Inquisition as a complex secret police organization, a KGB on steroids.

Go read Eisenhorn and Ravenor, this is the truth of the matter really.

As is the fact that Inquisitors are by and large going to be "advisers and tagalongs".

For every Eisenhorn or Ravenor, there's going to be an Inquisitor who has little to no combat experience and instead relies upon their operatives to do the heavy lifting.

Kanluwen wrote:As is the fact that Inquisitors are by and large going to be "advisers and tagalongs".

For every Eisenhorn or Ravenor, there's going to be an Inquisitor who has little to no combat experience and instead relies upon their operatives to do the heavy lifting.

Actually, Ravenor himself wasn't all that combat oriented anyway (at least, after he got the chair). Most of his missions were conducted with him in orbit directing his team. And if anything, I reckon his violent streaks mostly come from Eisenhorns mentoring.

Ravenor, prior to him "getting the chair" was pretty hands-on. He trained with Harlon and other members of Eisenhorn's coterie.

Kanluwen wrote:Ravenor, prior to him "getting the chair" was pretty hands-on. He trained with Harlon and other members of Eisenhorn's coterie.

Did I not just say that with the whole chair comment?

In the chair, he makes people's heads explode. From orbit.

Don't feth with the beta-grade psyker.

Rather, he could, but it's not his style. Ravenor is more the silk-glove sort of Inquisitor, preferring to move secretly and without notice, getting his work done, using the members of his retinue to the best of their abilities and in the right ways to eradicate entire covens, cults and cells without needing to roll in an entire Naval battlegroup and five IG regiments.

Lynata wrote:Well. If the old stuff is still valid - the "Inquisitor RPG" does point out that the Grey Knights are basically owned by the Inquisition. They're one of "the Inquisition's own fighting formations" was the exact wording, I believe.

From what I've heard so far, the 5E Codex doesn't exactly go into a lot of detail on whether this has changed or not, only that it's still the Inquisition's Chamber Militant. Well, of the Inquisition as a whole, now.

It's the Deathwatch RPG that really changed the relationship between the Deathwatch and the Ordo Xenos. I think it's a change for the better, as far as making the game more enjoyable, but having Deathwatch now be quasi-independent with who knows how many members is a huge change to the fluff.

The Deathwatch doesn't get mentioned anymore at all in GW material ever since the 5E rulebook - I wonder if it's even still around in the studio version of the 'verse.