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2012/03/15 02:49:07
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
En route to next battlezone
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A question probably easily answered, but here it is: Do the DE worship Slaanesh or was he/she/it just created by the fall? I know the fall created Slaanesh, but I was unsure if the Dark Eldar actually worship it or if they stick to the traditional Eldar gods.
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2012/03/15 03:28:33
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Dark Eldar are just as terrified of Slaanesh as any other Eldar. They do not worship he-she. DE also don't worship the old Eldar gods.
This is the closest thing the Dark Eldar do to religious practices:
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Dark_Muses#.T2FgEPWweG4
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2012/03/15 03:33:22
Subject: Dark Eldar
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They do feed souls to Slaanesh, but this is not becasue they worship him, but becasue they don't want him to eat theirs 
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2012/03/15 08:08:28
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Or, technically, Slaanesh drains away their souls, and they eat other people's souls to fill in the gap.
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2012/03/18 13:16:27
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar
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Some do, as I have been told, but these are renegades and are no more than small corsair fleets.
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PM me if you want me to draw anything related to Warhmmer 40k. I will put it in my gallery for all to see.
WAAAGH! Wazrokk 
Salamanders - 2000 pts 
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2012/03/18 15:01:10
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Arturius wrote:Or, technically, Slaanesh drains away their souls, and they eat other people's souls to fill in the gap.
It's like paying the tax without worshipping the Treasury 
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2012/03/19 23:50:16
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Arturius wrote:Or, technically, Slaanesh drains away their souls, and they eat other people's souls to fill in the gap.
And the more time passes the more souls they must consume...the drain on their becomes greater as their life span extends...something the Craftworld Eldar don't fear, thanks to their Spirit Stones and the Paths, not to mention the Infinity Circuit.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/03/19 23:51:31
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Stone Bonkers Fabricator General
A garden grove on Citadel Station
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The DE appease slaanesh. At least I believe that was their old fluff.
They siphon life energy or some junk like that to live forever so they don't die and get snatched up by slaanesh.
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2012/03/20 00:36:31
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Tadashi wrote:Arturius wrote:Or, technically, Slaanesh drains away their souls, and they eat other people's souls to fill in the gap.
And the more time passes the more souls they must consume...the drain on their becomes greater as their life span extends...something the Craftworld Eldar don't fear, thanks to their Spirit Stones and the Paths, not to mention the Infinity Circuit.
Actually, it is living in the webway that drains their souls. Craftworld Eldar would have the same problem, Spirit Stone and Path or not. Spirit Stones only catch the soul in the moment of death, not a continuous leach.
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2012/03/20 01:49:24
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Kroothawk wrote:Tadashi wrote:Arturius wrote:Or, technically, Slaanesh drains away their souls, and they eat other people's souls to fill in the gap.
And the more time passes the more souls they must consume...the drain on their becomes greater as their life span extends...something the Craftworld Eldar don't fear, thanks to their Spirit Stones and the Paths, not to mention the Infinity Circuit.
Actually, it is living in the webway that drains their souls. Craftworld Eldar would have the same problem, Spirit Stone and Path or not. Spirit Stones only catch the soul in the moment of death, not a continuous leach.
Thanks for that. So that's why Craftworld Eldar feel a 'tiredness' within the Webway.
Although it begs a question...how does Slaanesh do it, when the Webway is supposed to be ward-sealdes against the Warp? Or is it because of the connection between Eldar souls (except Harlequins, of course) and Slaanesh?
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/03/20 02:10:50
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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Tadashi wrote:Kroothawk wrote:Tadashi wrote:Arturius wrote:Or, technically, Slaanesh drains away their souls, and they eat other people's souls to fill in the gap.
And the more time passes the more souls they must consume...the drain on their becomes greater as their life span extends...something the Craftworld Eldar don't fear, thanks to their Spirit Stones and the Paths, not to mention the Infinity Circuit.
Actually, it is living in the webway that drains their souls. Craftworld Eldar would have the same problem, Spirit Stone and Path or not. Spirit Stones only catch the soul in the moment of death, not a continuous leach.
Thanks for that. So that's why Craftworld Eldar feel a 'tiredness' within the Webway.
Although it begs a question...how does Slaanesh do it, when the Webway is supposed to be ward-sealdes against the Warp? Or is it because of the connection between Eldar souls (except Harlequins, of course) and Slaanesh?
No its because the breaches in the Segway let it in just a wee bit
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You take a dump, you flip through the Dark Eldar codex, the concept art for Lelith Hesperax shows up and you pee on the floor.
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2012/03/20 02:13:19
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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TheAngrySquig wrote:Tadashi wrote:Kroothawk wrote:Tadashi wrote:Arturius wrote:Or, technically, Slaanesh drains away their souls, and they eat other people's souls to fill in the gap.
And the more time passes the more souls they must consume...the drain on their becomes greater as their life span extends...something the Craftworld Eldar don't fear, thanks to their Spirit Stones and the Paths, not to mention the Infinity Circuit.
Actually, it is living in the webway that drains their souls. Craftworld Eldar would have the same problem, Spirit Stone and Path or not. Spirit Stones only catch the soul in the moment of death, not a continuous leach.
Thanks for that. So that's why Craftworld Eldar feel a 'tiredness' within the Webway.
Although it begs a question...how does Slaanesh do it, when the Webway is supposed to be ward-sealdes against the Warp? Or is it because of the connection between Eldar souls (except Harlequins, of course) and Slaanesh?
No its because the breaches in the Segway let it in just a wee bit
The galaxy's gone to hell since the Fall of the Eldar. The Great Crusade offered a new beginning (maybe even for the Eldar if they were willing to co-exist with the Imperium), but that Lorgar messed everything up.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/03/20 02:42:48
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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2012/03/20 04:16:51
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
Thousand Sons Battleship wandering the galaxy...
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Who? Lorgar? Since when was he a marine?
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/03/20 04:50:12
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
Did you guys know Canada has a friggin desert?
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Lorgar is the daemon primarch of the word bearers. However, it wasn't he that started the heresy, rather that it was Erebus and Kor Phaeron. A few others (Fabius) also took a major part. Really, the chaos primarchs weren't the ones that were actually in charge of the heresy. (except for Horus maybe.)
Anyways, no; Dark Eldar don't follow slaanesh. At least most of them won't.
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You're not playing the game like I play it...why aren't you playing the game like I play it?! O_O |
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2012/03/20 18:51:28
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
En route to next battlezone
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Alright, that definitely explained it a little bit more. Now I can see that they really don't worship anything, aside from hedonism anyway.
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2012/03/20 18:59:42
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Hedonism and Khaine.
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Arguing with some people is like playing chess with a pigeon. You can play the best chess in the world, but at the end of the day the pigeon will still knock all the pieces off the board and then gak all over it. |
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2012/03/20 19:17:51
Subject: Dark Eldar
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They do venerate the Dark Muses, according to the DE codex, but they don't worship them.
Think of them more as the patron saints of hink
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2012/03/20 23:01:08
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar
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On the topic of the Webway gate absorbing their souls: would this occur to humans if they attempted to live within the webway? And is it a permanent loss or can you regain what you lost by staying out of the webway long enough?
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2012/03/21 00:09:26
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar
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Ancient Venerable Dreadnought
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Red Comet wrote:On the topic of the Webway gate absorbing their souls: would this occur to humans if they attempted to live within the webway? And is it a permanent loss or can you regain what you lost by staying out of the webway long enough?
No effect on Humans. Unlike Eldar, Humans aren't linked to any of the Powers, or even to the Emperor. In fact, the only reason the Emperor can protect Human souls after death is because they believe in Him as a god (ironic considering He hated religion); in return, their belief in Him strengthens Him in the Warp. It also implies this power would allow Him to reincarnate/restore Himself once the Throne fails. Back to topic, even if Humans stay in the Webway indefinitely, no, they won't feel tired or being drained.
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I should have left him there. He had served his purpose. He owed me nothing - yet he gave himself to me willingly. Why? I know not. He is nothing more than a pathetic human. An inferior race. A mon-keigh. But still I broke off my wings so that I might carry him easier. I took him from that place, into the snowstorm where our tracks will not be found. He is heavy. And he is dying. And he is slowing me down. But I will save him. Why? I know not. He is still warm. I can feel his blood ebbing across me. For every beat of his heart, another, slight spill of heat. The heat blows away on the winter wind. His blood is still warm. But fading. And I have spilled scarlet myself. The snow laps greedily at our footsteps and our lifeblood, covering them without a trace as we fade away.
'She sat on the corner, gulping the soup down, uncaring of the heat of it. They had grown more watery as of late she noted, but she wasn't about to beggar food from the Imperials or the "Bearers of the Word." Tau, despite their faults at least didn't have a kill policy for her race.' |
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2012/03/21 18:51:59
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar
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Tadashi wrote:Red Comet wrote:On the topic of the Webway gate absorbing their souls: would this occur to humans if they attempted to live within the webway? And is it a permanent loss or can you regain what you lost by staying out of the webway long enough?
No effect on Humans. Unlike Eldar, Humans aren't linked to any of the Powers, or even to the Emperor. In fact, the only reason the Emperor can protect Human souls after death is because they believe in Him as a god (ironic considering He hated religion); in return, their belief in Him strengthens Him in the Warp. It also implies this power would allow Him to reincarnate/restore Himself once the Throne fails. Back to topic, even if Humans stay in the Webway indefinitely, no, they won't feel tired or being drained.
I agree mostly with what you said. However, hasn't the Emprah being turned into something like a warp-god-entitiy, as you mentioned, basically begun to link him to humanity in a way similar to the Eldar and their gods?
Also, no, DE do not worship Slaanesh. IIRC thats the reason they don't have psykers. If they tried to access the power of the warp like other psyker-able species, their souls would be nom-nom'd by Slaanesh almost instantly...I think.
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Inquisitorial lesson #298: Why to Hate Choas Gods, cont'd-
With Chaos, Tzeench would probably turn your hands, feet and face into
scrotums, complete with appropriate nerve endings. Then Khorne would
force you and all your friends to fight to the death using your new
scrotal appendages. Once they get tired of that, you get tossed to
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2012/03/21 19:23:21
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Yeah, they have a major down on Psykers for this reason.
Baron Sathonyx is reviled because he brought a living Farseer back to Commoragh (risky thing to do), even if he did then bump him off and use his bones as I Ching sticks
DE don't actively worship Slaanesh, but they also refuse to quit behaving as the Ancient Eldar did, just before the fall, which is what created Slaanesh in the first place. They feed Slaanesh, but none of them are actually chaos cultists.
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2012/03/21 23:41:10
Subject: Re:Dark Eldar
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I'd be jealous, but I'm pretty sure someone would kick my ass before I got to the partying :/
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2012/03/21 23:54:28
Subject: Dark Eldar
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And if they didn't, they'd just drain you of blood or something.
Ascalam wrote:When the Eldar party, they party HARD!
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2012/03/22 03:09:53
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Durza wrote:And if they didn't, they'd just drain you of blood or something.
Ascalam wrote:When the Eldar party, they party HARD!
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that's a fething wierd animation mate ....
I have a question of my own, why do they stay there if slanesh is nomnoming them ? why not just move out and party in some other place ?
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2012/03/22 03:17:51
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Durza wrote:And if they didn't, they'd just drain you of blood or something.
Ascalam wrote:When the Eldar party, they party HARD!
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Goddess, that screws with the eyes... Hate to be an epileptic seeing that....
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That would be an ecumenical matter...
GENERATION 9: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment.
Lockark wrote:Was almost excited, "fine cast void". Best colour ever. XP
As for the new paints, I find it interested the new 40k starter set is how to paint dark angles. Gives atleast some credit to the dark angles part of the rumored Dark Angles Vs. Chaos Starter set rumors.
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2012/03/22 03:19:27
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Cos he Noms them in realspace as well. There is no where else to go.
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2012/03/22 03:22:41
Subject: Dark Eldar
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nomsheep wrote:Cos he Noms them in realspace as well. There is no where else to go.
Nom
I take it that the Eldar are basically food for Slaanesh, regardless of location?
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GENERATION 9: The first time you see this, copy and paste it into your sig and add 1 to the number after generation. Consider it a social experiment.
Lockark wrote:Was almost excited, "fine cast void". Best colour ever. XP
As for the new paints, I find it interested the new 40k starter set is how to paint dark angles. Gives atleast some credit to the dark angles part of the rumored Dark Angles Vs. Chaos Starter set rumors.
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2012/03/22 03:37:22
Subject: Dark Eldar
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pretty much.
The CWE went all puritan, to repress their urges, and save their souls in Infinity circuits and soulstones to stop Slaanesh getting them. It works, most of the time, but leaves them a shadow of themselves as they can't live full lives or reach their full potential.
The DE party as hard as ever they did, and top up their souls as they drain out the bottom. It works, sort of, but like any drug needs bigger and bigger doses to have an effect.
The ones that dies in the Fall have been called the lucky ones by some CWE. The DE are in denial
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The Viletide: Daemons of Nurgle/Deathguard: 7400 pts
Disclples of the Dragon - Ad Mech - about 2000 pts
GSC - about 2000 Pts
Rhulic Mercs - um...many...
Circle Oroboros - 300 Pts or so
Menoth - 300+ pts
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2012/03/22 03:58:24
Subject: Dark Eldar
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Their choices are feel nothing or rape, burn and torture everything. Or dance til the end of time since harlies are the only truly free eldar.
Basically it sucks to be them.
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