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Made in gb
Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader






UK

Hello chaps.

We're hosting a 40k Narrative Campaign Weekend at the end of the year at Maelstrom Games in Mansfield. As part of the narrative a number of units from across the different 40k races are being assembled as we speak to be made available as mercenaries, paid for with bonus points picked up across games in the campaign.

I have already constructed and painted Da Red Barrun (dakkajet). I intend to use the standard dakkajet rules (with extra dakka, a dakkadakkajet if you will).

My thoughts are whether to introduce Da Red Barrun on foot in the extremely likely case that he will be shot from the sky in a ball of flame! I'm thinking along the line of Chronus, once he's shot down, provided he survives the crash, he can be used as a single miniature.

Initially I don't want him to be too strong, so warboss stats doesn't feel right. I do want him to be able to have an impact though, like Marbo, a devastating disposable punch. I guess this would be easy enough to do by equiping him with the ork equivalent of a demo charge and melta bombs but it seems a bit east to do this!

Has anybody out there got any suggestions?

Thanks dudes.

   
Made in us
Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

I think it would be funny if instead of ejecting on foot he ejects on a bike that looks like an airplane cockpit. Nob biker?

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
Made in gb
Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader






UK

Sounds like somebody may be a Batman fan! I like it though. Wazdakka mkII?

   
Made in us
Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

I'm not familiar with wazdakka enough. Actually a deffcopter makes a bit more sense, seeing as he's air obsessed and all. Maybe a deffcopta that keeps some of the plane's guns?

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
Made in gb
Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader






UK

I happen to have a spare rotor blade knicking around. Maybe.

Wazdakka is probably too strong, he's my second choice hq behind Thraka.

   
Made in us
Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

If he has to eject he flies in the air and deep strikes onto the board. This could make him potentially powerful, depending on what guns he has.

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
Made in gb
Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader






UK

Thats where I was going with my Marbo reference. He basically shows up, demo charges something extremely important then dies! Its the impact I'd like him to make for sure!

My current knowledge of Orks is limited to the units I'm familiar with and use and none of them have anything as powerful as a demo charge, not sure what squig bombs are like but its an option i'd be willing to look into. Plus, squigs are cool!

   
Made in us
Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

bomb squigs are rather unfair. it's an automatic S8 hit vs the nearest vehicle within 18", there is a 1 in 6 that it goes after one of your own instead.

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
Made in gb
Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader






UK

So are demo charges with BS5! Its definately something worth thinking about though.

What about basic set up for the dude if he's on foot? Do you think a flash git or kommando stat line, or a mek even?

   
Made in us
Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

I originally thought big mek, but without their odd mek gear the only thing different from a nob is +1 Ld. I don't think that would have a real impact, unless you gave him some unique rule or gear.

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
Made in gb
Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader






UK

I also want to avoid making him a massive nob... ahem, excuse the pun! Modelling wise I want to use one of the heads from the dakkajet so using a larger body will be a no go.

I think I'll definately go with the Squig bomb though as it gives me an excuse to paint one and will be entertaining if it all goes pear shaped... which is always good with orkses!


   
Made in us
Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

Idk, a drastically undersized head could be funny.

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver




Maybe not a massive nob but definitely a nob. There are plenty of noteworthy nobs that aren't elitist dicks roaming around in a mob of other elitist dicks like Snikrot, Zagstruk and others I can't recall off the top of me 'ead.

His ejection seat should shoot downward, through the plane, with a giant spring at the bottom of the pilot's chair.
   
Made in gb
Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader






UK

Can he still be a nob, even if he's a small nob?

   
Made in us
Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

The nob body in the basic boyz box is basically the same size as a normal ork, just a bit bigger chest.

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
Made in gb
Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader






UK

Sweet. So what about a weapon, kustom mega blaster too big?

   
Made in us
Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

About the same size as a shoota, but size can vary.

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
Made in gb
Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader






UK

Do you think it would be an appropriate choice or should he just have a slugga? I like the link to being a pilot mek that the kmb would give him!

   
Made in us
Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

i'd think anything non-heavy would work.

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
Made in gb
Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader






UK

Been looking at the kmb available in plastic and i think it will do very nicely.

So far we have... Kustom Mega blaster, and Bomb Squig. I think as far as weapons go that will do.

What about a Kustom force Field... too much? Technically would this mean that his dakkajet would get one before hes shot down. Don't want to go too far with that.

As for ejecting, should he scatter from the crash site or deep strike anywhere on the board? (This may need to wait until the 6th ed is released incase flyers rules are incorporated and they don't explode on the spot).

I'm liking where this is going so far though, thanks erikwfg!

   
Made in us
Smokin' Skorcha Driver




Why can't he rip off a gun from his plane before ejecting? Surely he'll want a momento from his plane.
   
Made in us
Dakka Veteran





Instead of a parachute maybe he has a storm boy rokkit pack? Give him a slugga (personal sidearm) and tank-busta bombz. That should make him pretty entertaining.
   
Made in ie
Jovial Junkatrukk Driver





Angloland

Make him deep strike after the plane is destroyed and give him something like a "pokkit rokkit launcha" - a pistol version of the rokkit launcha and give him a decent BS

motyak wrote:[...] Yes, the mods are illuminati, and yakface, lego and dakka dakka itself are the 3 points of the triangle.
 
   
Made in us
Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

Np.

I too am a fan of him taking a plane weapon with him though.

Kff is way too much.

Deep striking anywhere on the board is comical, but deviating from his vehicle makes more sense. If he deviates onto enemies maybe he can explode or something.

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
Made in us
Rough Rider with Boomstick




Fond du Lac, Wi

I don't know about him taking a plane mounted weapon with him, even the real Red Baron was killed when he was hit by a stray bullet, and he still managed to land in a field. I think it would actually be better if he either tries to ram into the enemy (Maybe a S6 large blast template explosion against one unit within 12 inches with no scatter) or he goes like an ork, dies fighting. Rather than the explosion you could allow the dakkajet he's in to make a free attack with all weapons before the vehicle destroyed result is resolved as he goes down guns blazing.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2012/06/17 03:29:07


“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the the universe.”
-Einstein 
   
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Smokin' Skorcha Driver




But the real baron was not an ork
   
Made in gb
Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader






UK

If I was to devise a d6 table should the worst happen for the barrun, then I could account for a number of scenarios.

An example

1 - The Red Barrun goes down with his ship and meets his doom.
2 - The Red Barrun's is trapped within the smoking wreckage of his plummeting plane. He has the foresight to steer the wayward craft towards the nearest enemy vehicle with a last word on his lips "WAAAGH!" (Use the Blitza Bommer collision rule here)
3-5 The Red Barrun safely ejects from the flaming wreckage of his ship. He Scatters 3d6 from the crash site.
6 - The RedBarrun safely ejects from the flaming wreckage, and using his amazing piloting abilities somehow manages to steer his stormboy ejector seat whilst coming to rest safely on the ground. (Deep Strike, no Scatter)

Combining this table with a stormboy profile, a kustom mega blaster and squig bomb or something as potent that can be humorous.

I like the direction here, and it enables the character to cover a number of the options that have been offered!

As its for a campaign weekend and won't be a regular thing i am considering also adding a pawn/queen switch. (PAWN - QUEEN) If The Red Barrun can make it back to the Ork Deployment zone and leave the table edge this represents him returning to the airstrip, picking up another jet an re-entering the fray via deep strike in a brand new shiny dakkajet!

Keep the ideas coming dudes, it all good!

   
Made in us
Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

I think it looks good.

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
Made in us
The Conquerer






Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios

Maybe try these stats for the Barrun.

WS4, BS2, Str4, T4, W2, I3, A3, Ld8

Unit Type: Infantry(character)

Special Rules: Waaagh, Independent Character, Mob Rule,

"Oi! you shot me bird down, put em up ya git!": The Baron doesn't like having his baby shot down. He gains the preferred enemy special rule against the unit that shot down his plane.

Equipment: Evy Armor, Cybork Body, choppa,

Ol'snazzy: This pistol is the Barrun's personal side arm. He's had it kustomized many times and it is extremely killy.

Range 12", Str8, AP1, Pistol, Gets Hot, Twin-linked

Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines

Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.

MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! 
   
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Pete Haines



Springfield, MA

Also good.

"A rule is only as good as the reasoning behind it."

I played Ordo Malleus since before it had a codex. 
   
 
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