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Brilliant! This kid seems to be purposely assisting me in my quest to have prisons only serve two meals a day, not be heated, and return the lags to hard labour.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-18772761

Anuj Bidve murder accused Kiaran Stapleton 'loves prison'

A man who shot dead an Indian student in Greater Manchester has told a court: "Lock me up for 65 years."

Kiaran Stapleton, 21, admits shooting Anuj Bidve in Salford on Boxing Day but denies murder.

When the prosecution asked if he hoped psychiatric reports would prevent him being jailed, he said: "To be honest, I'm not bothered."

He told Manchester Crown Court: "I love prison. I watch Coronation Street. I have got a fat canteen."

"I love prison. Lock me up for 65 years."

'I'm not bothered'
Looking to the jury from the witness box, he added: "Does this face look bothered?

"I have even got a new rug and bedding coming for my cell. I'm not bothered."


I couldnt help but think of the Catherine Tate show, with that little gak who always says "I aint bovvered though!"

Seriously.. if some little gak comes out with this kinda crap to the judge, can't we just throw them in a proper prison? Couldn't we deport him to Thailand or somewhere that actually has prisons that are remotely unpleasant?




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"Does this face look bothered"
*judge throws gavel*

If only...
I doubt he'd find it as enjoyable as they appear to be in his stories, which I hope he won't get to watch.

   
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Not Thailand....I recommend Afghanistan prison...What happens in their prison stays in their prison....we could lie and say he has possible intell but not in rush to get it.

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The Americans have the right idea, and America is a civilised country, why the feth cant Europeans have prisons like in the States?

I watched Louis Theroux when he was in jail, those prisons really sucked.. 16 guys in one cell and gak like that?

We need to get more American and have these scumbags living in gak.

Coronation Street indeed!

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Watch Coronation Street.

That would count as cruel and unusual punishment in my book.

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This is why we could do with the adeptus custodes. It's meant to be a fething punishment, not a cosy hotel!

   
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I'm in favour of turning a remote island off the western coast of Scotland into a prison for any violent criminals.

No TV or games consoles. Cold, damp, and miserable. Manual labour available if they want to get some fresh air.

I'm not in favour of the gulag approach or squishing them all in like battery hens, but there's no reason it should be as comfortable as it currently is for murderers.

If I can't afford to have my heating on in winter, then prisoners shouldn't be getting that luxury either.

Also, there is currently an island prison in Norway which takes this exact approach and has very low re-offending rates.

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Man p_gray, know what I love about hotels?

I can leave anytime I want.

Prestor Jon wrote:
Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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Hey, that'd make scotland a miserable place... oh, right, it already is


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MrDwhitey wrote:Man p_gray, know what I love about hotels?

I can leave anytime I want.
Yeah, but you know what I don't like about hotels? I have to pay for them.

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Why waste an island? Why not a stretch of open sea, we have lots of that.

Bring back the Victorian era H blocks ie no electrickery and without the netting to stop them from casting one another of the second floor balcony from time to time.

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p_gray99 wrote:Hey, that'd make scotland a miserable place... oh, right, it already is


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MrDwhitey wrote:Man p_gray, know what I love about hotels?

I can leave anytime I want.
Yeah, but you know what I don't like about hotels? I have to pay for them.


Then don't pay taxes, live on your own little island, and enjoy not having civilisation. Comparing prisons to hotels has always amused me greatly.

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Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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p_gray99 wrote:It's meant to be a fething punishment, not a cosy hotel!


Actually it is meant to be a punishment and rehabilitation. People always seem to forget the second bit though, not least the government.

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He knows full well how his comments will be interpreted.

It's true though that prison isn't much of a deterrent - but a criminal record certainly is. Hence once you go to prison once, you have no incentive to not re-offend.



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Palindrome wrote:
p_gray99 wrote:It's meant to be a fething punishment, not a cosy hotel!


Actually it is meant to be a punishment and rehabilitation. People always seem to forget the second bit though, not least the government.

I'm pretty liberal in a lot of ways, but I have no idea why people insist that everyone can be rehabilited.They can't.
In fact I'd say people who CAN be rehabilitated are the minority.

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Not everyone can be rehabilitated. But virtually every criminal can be made worse, nastier, and more brutal by brutal treatment in prison.

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mattyrm wrote:

Seriously.. if some little gak comes out with this kinda crap to the judge, can't we just throw them in a proper prison? Couldn't we deport him to Thailand or somewhere that actually has prisons that are remotely unpleasant?


Throw him into a Thai prison? Jesus, this kid is such a moron that his only possible use to humanity would be to throw him into a meat-grinder and use him to make that pepperoni they put on the top of Goodfella's Pizzas, like they do with tramps.

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I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


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I love Goodfellas, hearing that it's made out of tramps only makes it taste sweeter.

Prestor Jon wrote:
Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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MrDwhitey wrote:I love Goodfellas, hearing that it's made out of tramps only makes it taste sweatier.


Fixed.

 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Mannahnin wrote:Not everyone can be rehabilitated. But virtually every criminal can be made worse, nastier, and more brutal by brutal treatment in prison.


This exactly.

Punishment based prisons don't work if we ever intend to release the criminals within.
   
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Box him up and ship him to Louisiana, we'll send him to the Farm(Louisiana State Penitentiary, more commonly known as Angola). Let's see how he enjoys forced farming(and sexual slavery among prisoners) in the South and how it compares to his little prison show.

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scarletsquig wrote:I'm in favour of turning a remote island off the western coast of Scotland into a prison for any violent criminals.

No TV or games consoles. Cold, damp, and miserable. Manual labour available if they want to get some fresh air.

I'm not in favour of the gulag approach or squishing them all in like battery hens, but there's no reason it should be as comfortable as it currently is for murderers.

If I can't afford to have my heating on in winter, then prisoners shouldn't be getting that luxury either.

Also, there is currently an island prison in Norway which takes this exact approach and has very low re-offending rates.


This approach works until somebody manages to bribe the guards, blow a hole in the side and allow everyone inside to escape.

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Platuan4th wrote:Box him up and ship him to Louisiana, we'll send him to the Farm(Louisiana State Penitentiary, more commonly known as Angola). Let's see how he enjoys forced farming(and sexual slavery among prisoners) in the South and how it compares to his little prison show.


Suggesting rape as a punishment ain't okay.

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LoneLictor wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:Box him up and ship him to Louisiana, we'll send him to the Farm(Louisiana State Penitentiary, more commonly known as Angola). Let's see how he enjoys forced farming(and sexual slavery among prisoners) in the South and how it compares to his little prison show.


Suggesting rape as a punishment isnt okay.


This is where we come for our two minutes hate. It's not supposed to be rational.

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Here is that Louis Theroux Program
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZVqbAUMM9A
The second part focuses on some kind of military based rehab if I recall correctly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hq3P_00Cdko

The worst thing about those jails is the possibility of being in there and being innocent.
*shudders*

I'm not sure why UK Prisons have TV and other luxury items, it's not part of your 'human rights' to have a TV, central heating and carpeted floors.

   
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feeder wrote:
LoneLictor wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:Box him up and ship him to Louisiana, we'll send him to the Farm(Louisiana State Penitentiary, more commonly known as Angola). Let's see how he enjoys forced farming(and sexual slavery among prisoners) in the South and how it compares to his little prison show.


Suggesting rape as a punishment isnt okay.


This is where we come for our two minutes hate. It's not supposed to be rational.


Still for some things there is neither a time nor place.

   
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n0t_u wrote:
feeder wrote:
LoneLictor wrote:
Platuan4th wrote:Box him up and ship him to Louisiana, we'll send him to the Farm(Louisiana State Penitentiary, more commonly known as Angola). Let's see how he enjoys forced farming(and sexual slavery among prisoners) in the South and how it compares to his little prison show.


Suggesting rape as a punishment isnt okay.


This is where we come for our two minutes hate. It's not supposed to be rational.


Still for some things there is neither a time nor place.


You are one of those things.

Expect stoney showers.

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Because children don't have any legal rights until they're adults. A minor is the responsiblity of the parent and has no legal rights except through his/her legal guardian or parent.
 
   
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Medium of Death wrote:I'm not sure why UK Prisons have TV and other luxury items, it's not part of your 'human rights' to have a TV, central heating and carpeted floors.


Man, I don't even have carpeted floors.

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Whats bad about it really. Prisoners live better then soldiers on deployment

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