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2012/10/22 02:20:01
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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If you have warriors aboard a NS and drop them off, they cannot assault correct? However, if you have warriors in a Ghost Ark, since it is open topped, the warriors can assault out?
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2012/10/22 02:22:20
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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 amrogers3 wrote:If you have warriors aboard a NS and drop them off, they cannot assault correct? However, if you have warriors in a Ghost Ark, since it is open topped, the warriors can assault out?
Right as the NS IIRC is not an "assault Vehicle"
Yes to the Ghost Ark, assuming it moved 0-6" they can disembark, than assault
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2012/10/22 16:16:57
Subject: Re:Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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2012/10/22 17:16:40
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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Correct. if a unit drops from the NS they dont scatter and can shoot as full BS (subject to a distance restriction i cant remember off the top of my head), that's it.
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2012/10/22 17:21:45
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Well quick question. Is the ghost ark a assault vehicle? Even if it’s open top if it doesn’t have a assault vehicle classification I though they couldn’t assault after. Though I don’t see why you would want to assault necron warriors unless its against tau.
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 Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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2012/10/22 17:23:14
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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The Hive Mind
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 Desubot wrote:Well quick question. Is the ghost ark a assault vehicle? Even if it’s open top if it doesn’t have a assault vehicle classification I though they couldn’t assault after. Though I don’t see why you would want to assault necron warriors unless its against tau.
Open Topped Vehicles have the Assault Vehicle special rule.
Page 82, bottom right.
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2012/10/22 17:23:29
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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Desubot wrote:Well quick question. Is the ghost ark a assault vehicle? Even if it’s open top if it doesn’t have a assault vehicle classification I though they couldn’t assault after. Though I don’t see why you would want to assault necron warriors unless its against tau.
Page 82 differs from that, as it goes to say "all open-topped transports are assault vehicles" pg 82 bottom right hand side
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2012/10/22 17:47:04
Subject: Re:Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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The Conquerer
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Yes, warriors can assault out of a Ghost Ark.
The real question is, why? 
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2012/10/22 17:55:46
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Objective grabbing, especially against tau or even a tac squad - with a resorb lord in there they often outfight vanilla marines.
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2012/10/22 17:56:11
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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I suppose you could have a squad of 5 warriors sharing their Ark with an overlord and 4 lords for a mini-deathstar.
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2012/10/22 17:58:34
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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How are 4 lords joining 1 squad?
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2012/10/22 17:59:29
Subject: Re:Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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4 lords from a Royal Court
Or is there a limit to how many Court members may attach to a squad?
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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2012/10/22 18:01:35
Subject: Re:Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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 Grey Templar wrote:4 lords from a Royal Court
Or is there a limit to how many Court members may attach to a squad?
There is. One member from each court per squad.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
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2012/10/22 18:03:05
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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I was under the impression you can either field you entire court as one big unit. OR you can split them to 1 court member escortign a single unit.
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2 Lords
1 Cryptek.
2 Lords & Tek with Warriors
OR
They can split and have
Lord wth warriors
Lord with warriors
'Tek with Warriors
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2012/10/22 18:03:08
Subject: Re:Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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So theoretically, at 2k+ you could have 4 lords in one squad 
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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2012/10/22 18:04:00
Subject: Re:Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2012/10/22 18:04:30
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Daemonic Dreadnought
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I have read about the necron Disco inferno formation:
2 Overlords and 2 full courts all in one big uber deathstar.
not seen it done myself as it tops out at stupid points (probably around 1500 if all the moels are fully kitted out)
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2012/10/22 18:12:24
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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 Praxiss wrote:I have read about the necron Disco inferno formation:
2 Overlords and 2 full courts all in one big uber deathstar.
not seen it done myself as it tops out at stupid points (probably around 1500 if all the moels are fully kitted out)
That's illegal.... courts cannot join each other.
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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.
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2012/10/22 18:22:30
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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double FOC, 4 HQ's that all open up a royal court, each court takes 1 lord, all lords attach to the same unit. They're not from the same RC and can therefore all join the same unit. The restriction is that you cannot join more than 1 member from the same RC to the same unit.
Also, RC members can embark on a Ghost Ark on their own.
"Necron Warriors, Necron Lords, Overlords, Crypteks, and Necron Special Characters"
So really, you wouldn't necessarily want the warriors or even the immortals to assault out of it, but certainly the OL's and Lords...even one or two of the crypteks.
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2012/10/25 01:07:10
Subject: Re:Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Or two Overlords and one lord from each of their RC can join six warriors,and board an Ark or Nightscythe.
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2012/10/25 04:28:59
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Lethal Lhamean
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i will also point out that royal court members can ONLY be attached to warriors, immortals, lychgaurd and deathmarks.
so the best you could do with double force org would be:
5 lords, 5 crypteks and 4 overlords in the same unit. a full royal court, and then your 4 overlords attached as IC to that court. other lords or court members can not join other royal courts as per their prestriction in the codex.
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2012/10/25 04:32:55
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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 DarthSpader wrote:i will also point out that royal court members can ONLY be attached to warriors, immortals, lychgaurd and deathmarks.
so the best you could do with double force org would be:
5 lords, 5 crypteks and 4 overlords in the same unit. a full royal court, and then your 4 overlords attached as IC to that court. other lords or court members can not join other royal courts as per their prestriction in the codex.
How are you getting 5 HQ choices in the list? You can't attach 5 Lords to a unit without having 5 Royal Courts.
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Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
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2012/10/25 05:26:13
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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I see 4? Though you can have 5 by attaching Zahndrekh and Obyron.
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2012/10/25 05:32:41
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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DarthSpader wrote:i will also point out that royal court members can ONLY be attached to warriors, immortals, lychgaurd and deathmarks.
so the best you could do with double force org would be:
5 lords, 5 crypteks and 4 overlords in the same unit. a full royal court, and then your 4 overlords attached as IC to that court. other lords or court members can not join other royal courts as per their prestriction in the codex.
Note the bold
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2012/10/25 05:37:41
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Lethal Lhamean
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A single royal court can have 0-5 lords and 0-5 crypteks. Those can then detach (but don't have to and can stay in the court) You can have 1 court per overlord. So buy 4 overlords. One takes a court of max members. All the overlords are IC so can then Join that court.
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2012/10/25 05:46:20
Subject: Re:Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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But you can only attach one lord and one Cryptek to a single unit. So max of 4 Lords and 4 Crypteks in one unit.
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2012/10/25 05:47:50
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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DarthSpader wrote:A single royal court can have 0-5 lords and 0-5 crypteks. Those can then detach (but don't have to and can stay in the court) You can have 1 court per overlord. So buy 4 overlords. One takes a court of max members. All the overlords are IC so can then Join that court.
You can even go 1-3 destroyer lords attached to the court though just one gives the court PE.
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Grey Templar wrote:But you can only attach one lord and one Cryptek to a single unit. So max of 4 Lords and 4 Crypteks in one unit.
No a RC can operate on its own with 5 lords and 5 Crypteks. Then you can attach IC as desired.
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2012/10/25 05:57:19
Subject: Re:Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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The Conquerer
Waiting for my shill money from Spiral Arm Studios
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Ahhh, now it makes sense. I thought you were tossin all those models in a Warrior or Immortal unit
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Self-proclaimed evil Cat-person. Dues Ex Felines
Cato Sicarius, after force feeding Captain Ventris a copy of the Codex Astartes for having the audacity to play Deathwatch, chokes to death on his own D-baggery after finding Calgar assembling his new Eldar army.
MURICA!!! IN SPESS!!! |
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2012/10/25 06:00:21
Subject: Re:Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Pyro Pilot of a Triach Stalker
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Grey Templar wrote:Ahhh, now it makes sense. I thought you were tossin all those models in a Warrior or Immortal unit
But if you want them to start the game in a Nightscythe you will only be able to run them attached to a squad that can take the Nightscythe as a dedicated transport.
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2012/10/26 04:20:14
Subject: Assaulting from a Night Scythe
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Lethal Lhamean
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or, just give one of the crypteks a veil of darkness, or take obryn for his ghostwalk mantle.
5 lords, 5 crypteks, 3 OL + obryen and zandrekh makes a DEADLY deathstar... especially if you kit out with warscythes, MSS, and phase shifters.
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