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REUTERS/Asmaa Waguih
A member of the Free Syrian Army stands guard at a checkpoint they took over early on Monday after clashes with pro-government forces in Salqin city in Idlib October 22, 2012.
A number of girls from Tunisia have become pregnant after traveling to Syria to participate in "sexual jihad," according to Lotfi Bin Jeddo, Tunisia's Interior Minister.
The girls “are (sexually) swapped between 20, 30, and 100 rebels and they come back bearing the fruit of sexual contacts in the name of sexual jihad and we are silent doing nothing and standing idle,” Al Arabiya reported he said during an address to the National Constituent Assembly.
The Telegraph has more:
"After the sexual liaisons they have there in the name of 'jihad al-nikah' - (sexual holy war, in Arabic) - they come home pregnant," Ben Jeddou told the MPs.
He did not elaborate on how many Tunisian women had returned to the country pregnant with the children of jihadist fighters.
Jihad al-nikah, permitting extramarital sexual relations with multiple partners, is considered by some hardline Sunni Muslim Salafists as a legitimate form of holy war.
Jeddo also said his ministry had taken a number of steps to stem the flow of Tunisians travelling to Syria.
Tunisia's former Mufti (the country's highest religious official) warned earlier this year that 13 Tunisian girls "were fooled" into travelling to Syria to offer sexual services for the rebels. He described the practice as a form of “prostitution.”
“For Jihad in Syria, they are now pushing girls to go there. 13 young girls have been sent for sexual jihad. What is this? This is called prostitution. It is moral educational corruption,” Battikh said.

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Uhhh. Okay.

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WTF.

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So, tons of girls go out, have a great time getting laid by rebels, return home pregnant, and this is news? Sounds like American college to me.

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 Corpsesarefun wrote:
I...

What exactly were they trying to accomplish?

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 timetowaste85 wrote:
So, tons of girls go out, have a great time getting laid by rebels, return home pregnant, and this is news? Sounds like American college to me.

I couldn't agree more.

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Nothing new, IDK if they have ever called it Jihad before but this same kind of thing has been going on for thousands of years

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 Asherian Command wrote:
 timetowaste85 wrote:
So, tons of girls go out, have a great time getting laid by rebels, return home pregnant, and this is news? Sounds like American college to me.

I couldn't agree more.


Are you guys missing the part where it mentions 13 girls were fooled into going? And how many more are not reported because of social stigma?

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 NELS1031 wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:
 timetowaste85 wrote:
So, tons of girls go out, have a great time getting laid by rebels, return home pregnant, and this is news? Sounds like American college to me.

I couldn't agree more.


Are you guys missing the part where it mentions 13 girls were fooled into going? And how many more are not reported because of social stigma?

Yes I did. It disturbs me.

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 Corpsesarefun wrote:
I...

What exactly were they trying to accomplish?


This was my question, and the two articles I read didn't answer it. I mean I got that the practical effect of the practice is that it's a form of religiously justified prostitution, but what's the ideological goal? What exactly do the girls, the children, or God gain from this practice? It's odd indeed >.>

   
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I think the idea here is that the mufti in question is either lying or willingly deceiving himself. The impression I got from the article was that he wasn't necessarily telling the truth. I don't think the article was trying to say that anyone is ACTUALLY getting tricked into going. I mean, there's lots of news coming in from over there that isn't necessarily accurate.

I admit to being a little confused about the intent of the 'sexual holy war' myself. Is it for morale boosting at this point? I mean, wars today don't generally last long enough that outbreeding an enemy is a viable strategy. Perhaps it's just one of those things I don't get...

Still, interesting bit of news.

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 LordofHats wrote:
 Corpsesarefun wrote:
I...

What exactly were they trying to accomplish?


This was my question, and the two articles I read didn't answer it. I mean I got that the practical effect of the practice is that it's a form of religiously justified prostitution, but what's the ideological goal? What exactly do the girls, the children, or God gain from this practice? It's odd indeed >.>


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 xole wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
 Corpsesarefun wrote:
I...

What exactly were they trying to accomplish?


This was my question, and the two articles I read didn't answer it. I mean I got that the practical effect of the practice is that it's a form of religiously justified prostitution, but what's the ideological goal? What exactly do the girls, the children, or God gain from this practice? It's odd indeed >.>


What could a God gain from any practice?

This is where you might need to stop that train of thought before we go off topic. Thank you.

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God is a typo XD My bad. I meant Islam. My understanding of Jihad is that it is done to protect Islam, so how does sexual Jihad protect Islam? I guess out breeding makes sense, especially for a cultural world that is very much still living in the early modern period.

Taking the articles at face value, the insinuation is that the practice is really just prostitution which I can believe. I just want to know what the religious and ideological purpose is which none of the articles I've read make clear.

   
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 LordofHats wrote:
 Corpsesarefun wrote:
I...

What exactly were they trying to accomplish?


This was my question, and the two articles I read didn't answer it. I mean I got that the practical effect of the practice is that it's a form of religiously justified prostitution, but what's the ideological goal? What exactly do the girls, the children, or God gain from this practice? It's odd indeed >.>


I just don't understand why the girls went... Were they told that "god loves it when you feth a load of men"? Or was the goal to get impregnated by the "heroic rebels" so they could have kids that would grow up to join the Jihad?
   
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 Asherian Command wrote:
 xole wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
 Corpsesarefun wrote:
I...

What exactly were they trying to accomplish?


This was my question, and the two articles I read didn't answer it. I mean I got that the practical effect of the practice is that it's a form of religiously justified prostitution, but what's the ideological goal? What exactly do the girls, the children, or God gain from this practice? It's odd indeed >.>


What could a God gain from any practice?

This is where you might need to stop that train of thought before we go off topic. Thank you.


Because we definitely aren't going to go off topic in a thread about prostitution mixed with religion.

I imagine it's for moral support. The rebels are "right", therefor do what you can to help them.

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 Corpsesarefun wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
 Corpsesarefun wrote:
I...

What exactly were they trying to accomplish?


This was my question, and the two articles I read didn't answer it. I mean I got that the practical effect of the practice is that it's a form of religiously justified prostitution, but what's the ideological goal? What exactly do the girls, the children, or God gain from this practice? It's odd indeed >.>


I just don't understand why the girls went... Were they told that "god loves it when you feth a load of men"? Or was the goal to get impregnated by the "heroic rebels" so they could have kids that would grow up to join the Jihad?

Probably to bring kids into the jihad. Add numbers to the soldiers. During the Crusades this happened a lot.

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 Corpsesarefun wrote:


I just don't understand why the girls went... Were they told that "god loves it when you feth a load of men"? Or was the goal to get impregnated by the "heroic rebels" so they could have kids that would grow up to join the Jihad?


Yep. Hell, is it even the girls making the choice? Or are their parents sending them? I have a hard time believing that these girls, in this region, can disappear like this with their parents having absolutely no knowledge of what is happening. Are the families involved in this practice? Having a child out of wedlock is a huge deal in Islam, so surely the parents must at least give some kind of tacit approval, and that's not even mentioning the communities they live in. Most of the articles are like "this is happening" and we're all like "why" and '"how" XD My questions aren't being given clear answers modern media!

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 Asherian Command wrote:
 Corpsesarefun wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
 Corpsesarefun wrote:
I...

What exactly were they trying to accomplish?


This was my question, and the two articles I read didn't answer it. I mean I got that the practical effect of the practice is that it's a form of religiously justified prostitution, but what's the ideological goal? What exactly do the girls, the children, or God gain from this practice? It's odd indeed >.>


I just don't understand why the girls went... Were they told that "god loves it when you feth a load of men"? Or was the goal to get impregnated by the "heroic rebels" so they could have kids that would grow up to join the Jihad?

Probably to bring kids into the jihad. Add numbers to the soldiers. During the Crusades this happened a lot.


Ehhh what?

I know most armies of the time period had a train of civilians(which included prostitutes) but I've never heard of any sort of organized prostitution done. Especially not by the Church itself.

Sure you aren't just confusing the very common fact that Prostitutes followed armies around because it was good business.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:
 Corpsesarefun wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
 Corpsesarefun wrote:
I...

What exactly were they trying to accomplish?


This was my question, and the two articles I read didn't answer it. I mean I got that the practical effect of the practice is that it's a form of religiously justified prostitution, but what's the ideological goal? What exactly do the girls, the children, or God gain from this practice? It's odd indeed >.>


I just don't understand why the girls went... Were they told that "god loves it when you feth a load of men"? Or was the goal to get impregnated by the "heroic rebels" so they could have kids that would grow up to join the Jihad?

Probably to bring kids into the jihad. Add numbers to the soldiers. During the Crusades this happened a lot.


Ehhh what?

I know most armies of the time period had a train of civilians(which included prostitutes) but I've never heard of any sort of organized prostitution done. Especially not by the Church itself.

Sure you aren't just confusing the very common fact that Prostitutes followed armies around because it was good business.

No.... Sometimes women were used to get pregnant so that they can prepare another generation of soldiers. This has happened but its is rare. Prostitution does get great money from armies, but sometimes the ones pulling the prostitutes usually are trying to build a generation of soldiers or milk soldiers for money and seduce soldiers to another side.

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Its rebel jihadist R&R.

Its also so the girls bear the children of 'holy warriors', or that is what I assume they are being told.

However bearing children of unkown fathers is so centrally taboo in Islamic culture, these girls must be super ignorant, even of being Arabs or Islamics to be convinced to do this.

However all forms of (even) Islam so openly and blatantly condemn this sort of behaviour, to the extent it would be a capital offense in many countries including Iran and Saudi Arabia.

This is beyond fethed up, it won't help the Syrian rebels cause in the Islamic world, let alone the west, I cant see many Imams praising this straight faced. Violent jihad, I can see how they can word to the faithful, but holy prostitutes of Allah, going to Syria to make holy bastards. It would be like the CoE trying to outdo the Gay Pride parade by offering all their bishops go and be open to offers on Hampstead Heath after dark.

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WTF.

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-Shrike- wrote:
WTF.

... and we want to support these guys?


Not me.


Obama thinks they are kind of funky.

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 Orlanth wrote:
Its rebel jihadist R&R.

Its also so the girls bear the children of 'holy warriors', or that is what I assume they are being told.

However bearing children of unkown fathers is so centrally taboo in Islamic culture, these girls must be super ignorant, even of being Arabs or Islamics to be convinced to do this.

However all forms of (even) Islam so openly and blatantly condemn this sort of behaviour, to the extent it would be a capital offense in many countries including Iran and Saudi Arabia.

This is beyond fethed up, it won't help the Syrian rebels cause in the Islamic world, let alone the west, I cant see many Imams praising this straight faced. Violent jihad, I can see how they can word to the faithful, but holy prostitutes of Allah, going to Syria to make holy bastards. It would be like the CoE trying to outdo the Gay Pride parade by offering all their bishops go and be open to offers on Hampstead Heath after dark.


You know, you've made a good case for this entire story being fabricated. Spreading false allegations of them tricking women across the border for forbidden liaisons while at the same time violating deeply held religious taboos? Sounds like the grand poobah of propaganda. Shoot, it hits all the major "anti-foreigner" notes. ("They're sneaking over our border!" "They're undermining our government!" "They're subverting our religion" and "They're defiling our women!")

That makes SO much more sense.

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 NELS1031 wrote:
 Asherian Command wrote:
 timetowaste85 wrote:
So, tons of girls go out, have a great time getting laid by rebels, return home pregnant, and this is news? Sounds like American college to me.

I couldn't agree more.


Are you guys missing the part where it mentions 13 girls were fooled into going? And how many more are not reported because of social stigma?


Again, how is that differant from college?

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