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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 02:39:45
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
Greenville, South Carolina
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Which Xenos is the best in all reguards. Best weapons, best political system (if any), etc... Stuff like that. I just want to know your opinion and know why you think they are the best
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 02:46:28
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Tough to say, but my vote would be for Tyranids or Orks. Orkz because they're just crazy, they're guns look like they will either blow up in their face or murder something, and they're generally just fethin' nuts.
Tyranids because their fluff is in my opinion by far the coolest, their entire army is terrifying, and the idea of them completely eating worlds just makes me laugh. They are my vote for the most terrifying army in terms of sheer unstoppable numbers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 02:53:04
Subject: Re:Best Xenos?
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Poxed Plague Monk
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Tyranids, definitely.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 02:55:14
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Dakka Veteran
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Orks. They've managed to avoid the problems of other races ie economic issues, judicial system, political system by having really simple answers for everything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 02:56:52
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Enginseer with a Wrench
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Eldar or Necrons going by your edited question.
Both are very old accomplished races with high tech levels.
Tyranids for perfection of politics though, NOM NOM
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 04:08:21
Subject: Re:Best Xenos?
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Pyromaniac Hellhound Pilot
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Regiment: 91st Schrott Experimental Regiment
Regiment Planet: Schrott
Specialization: Salvaged, Heavily Modified, and/or Experimental Mechanized Units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 04:16:53
Subject: Re:Best Xenos?
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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What is the best weapon?
What is the best food?
What is the best college to attend?
Who is the best woman to court?
Fact is, which Xenos is the best is a pretty poor question
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"We are the Red Sorcerers of Prospero, damned in the eyes of our fellows, and this is to be how our story ends, in betrayal and bloodshed. No...you may find it nobler to suffer your fate, but I will take arms against it." -Ahzek Ahriman
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 04:40:29
Subject: Re:Best Xenos?
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Poxed Plague Monk
DC
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changerofways wrote:What is the best weapon?
What is the best food?
What is the best college to attend?
Who is the best woman to court?
Fact is, which Xenos is the best is a pretty poor question
1. Your teeth
2. Umies
3. College of Behemoth, the fighten 'nids!
4. Aristocrats, that way when the hive fleet comes the gene stealers can do maximum damage.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 05:55:24
Subject: Re:Best Xenos?
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Maniacal Gibbering Madboy
octarius sector squishin bugz
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Orks. they have the entire universe as their playground.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 12:08:59
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Hangin' with Gork & Mork
The Ruins of the Boston Commonwealth
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Orkz is best. And I'll krump anyone who says different
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 12:30:24
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Tunneling Trygon
Carrickfergus, Northern Ireland
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Tyranids win for best political and economic system, as they are simultaneously a perfect communist society and a singular entity. Orks are a close second for having a perfect meritocracy.
Eldar for weaponry in terms of total advancement, Tau in terms of average weaponry and technology. The Tau are at a stage of constant scientific growth, and are intelligent and capable enough to apply their knowledge to overcome new challenges.
The majority of Eldar technology is more akin to art than science, and would probably be devastatingly effective if managed into deployable formats. If the Eldar had colonies and holdings rather than being space nomads, suncannons on every soldier would probably not be too far-fetched.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 14:20:17
Subject: Re:Best Xenos?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Nice to see someone else is thinking straight today. There is only one answer for the question of “best” xenos. Unless you are talking about how to get them that way. I’m a big fan of “mowed down with a precision bolter drill” But have a healthy respect for “purged with Holy fire”.
YMMV
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 14:27:11
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Necrons. Nigh-immortal, soulless robots led by gods with weaponry that melts even the hardest metal in the universe in seconds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 14:43:17
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Poxed Plague Monk
DC
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Sigvatr wrote:Necrons. Nigh-immortal, soulless robots led by gods with weaponry that melts even the hardest metal in the universe in seconds.
You mean used to be led by gods, until Matt Ward got his hands on the codex.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 14:50:43
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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Ciciro wrote: Sigvatr wrote:Necrons. Nigh-immortal, soulless robots led by gods with weaponry that melts even the hardest metal in the universe in seconds.
You mean used to be led by gods, until Matt Ward got his hands on the codex.
Necrons have always been allied with Blood Angels and have always been at war with Eurasia.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 14:55:49
Subject: Re:Best Xenos?
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Top 3:
Dead Xeno.
undead xeno ( sometimes called Necrons )
unknown xeno
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Target locked,ready to fire
In dedicatio imperatum ultra articulo mortis.
H.B.M.C :
We were wrong. It's not the 40k End Times. It's the Trademarkening.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 15:04:22
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Ciciro wrote: Sigvatr wrote:Necrons. Nigh-immortal, soulless robots led by gods with weaponry that melts even the hardest metal in the universe in seconds.
You mean used to be led by gods, until Matt Ward got his hands on the codex.
Depends on whether you see the real fluff as canon (TruCon) or the Matt Wardian equivalent to a 14 year old on speed (NewCron).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 15:17:38
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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Sigvatr wrote: Ciciro wrote: Sigvatr wrote:Necrons. Nigh-immortal, soulless robots led by gods with weaponry that melts even the hardest metal in the universe in seconds.
You mean used to be led by gods, until Matt Ward got his hands on the codex.
Depends on whether you see the real fluff as canon (TruCon) or the Matt Wardian equivalent to a 14 year old on speed (NewCron).
But ULTRAMUREEENS
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 5614/08/13 15:27:49
Subject: Re:Best Xenos?
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Nasty Nob
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The answer is orks.
In fact, if the answer could possibly be 'orks' it's generally best to assume that it's orks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 16:07:29
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Dakka Veteran
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Random Dude wrote:Orks. They've managed to avoid the problems of other races ie economic issues, judicial system, political system by having really simple answers for everything.
I agree because what other races see as problems they just see as a chance to do sum krumpin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 16:35:23
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Mighty Vampire Count
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jakejackjake wrote: Random Dude wrote:Orks. They've managed to avoid the problems of other races ie economic issues, judicial system, political system by having really simple answers for everything.
I agree because what other races see as problems they just see as a chance to do sum krumpin.
Even the Eldar agree that Orks have a unique and very simple way of living their lives.
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I AM A MARINE PLAYER
"Unimaginably ancient xenos artefact somewhere on the planet, hive fleet poised above our heads, hidden 'stealer broods making an early start....and now a bloody Chaos cult crawling out of the woodwork just in case we were bored. Welcome to my world, Ciaphas."
Inquisitor Amberley Vail, Ordo Xenos
"I will admit that some Primachs like Russ or Horus could have a chance against an unarmed 12 year old novice but, a full Battle Sister??!! One to one? In close combat? Perhaps three Primarchs fighting together... but just one Primarch?" da001
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 16:44:10
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Tyranids
They have no technology to speak of as far as I'm aware and their political system is non-existent.
In much ways, they are like cats:
All they do is sleep and eat all day and when you even think about picking it up, its claws are already in your face.
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You don't have to be happy when you lose, just don't make winning the condition of your happiness. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/13 17:22:29
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Seattle
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The dead ones.
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It is best to be a pessimist. You are usually right and, when you're wrong, you're pleasantly surprised. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/14 00:33:14
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Stealthy Dark Angels Scout with Shotgun
New Orleans, LA
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I would go with Orks! Their economy, which is based on teeth, is ingenious. Population and wealth is always on equal footing and there is no such thing as a poor ork!
Their politics are simple and all orks accept it. Only the strongest and most kunnin' orks become leaders, which is what we want of our leaders.
They have no religious strife, all hail Gork and Mork!
They have great population control.
Seems like an utopian society to me.
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Men have become tools of their tools.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/14 00:40:09
Subject: Re:Best Xenos?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The dead ones. Orks and other abominations have no place within the galaxy. There is nothing left to be understood because there is nothing left to know. They are random forces in the universe. Automatically Appended Next Post: Nevelon wrote:
Nice to see someone else is thinking straight today. There is only one answer for the question of “best” xenos. Unless you are talking about how to get them that way. I’m a big fan of “mowed down with a precision bolter drill” But have a healthy respect for “purged with Holy fire”.
YMMV
I agree Battle-Brother. We cleans the universe of the taint of unholy xenos.
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Adepta Sororitas: 3,800 Points
Adeptus Custodes: 8,100 Points
Adeptus Mechanicus: 8,400 Points
Alpha Legion: 4,400 Points
Astra Militarum: 7,500 Points
Dark Angels: 16,800 Points
Imperial Knights: 12,500 Points
Legio Titanicus: 5,500 Points
Slaaneshi Daemons: 3,800 Points
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/14 18:12:12
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
UK
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Tau
Political system... Sniff this Ethereal and believe in the greater good.
Weapons... Railguns
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"That's how a Luna Wolf fights."
"If you can't keep up, go and join the Death Guard"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/15 00:47:44
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Sister Vastly Superior
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/15 01:30:49
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Prophetic Blood Angel Librarian
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Pyrovores.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/15 02:34:21
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Nurgle Predator Driver with an Infestation
Greenville, South Carolina
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What's the difference between pyrovores and biovores
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2014/08/15 02:59:28
Subject: Best Xenos?
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Sigvatr wrote: Ciciro wrote: Sigvatr wrote:Necrons. Nigh-immortal, soulless robots led by gods with weaponry that melts even the hardest metal in the universe in seconds.
You mean used to be led by gods, until Matt Ward got his hands on the codex.
Depends on whether you see the real fluff as canon (TruCon) or the Matt Wardian equivalent to a 14 year old on speed (NewCron).
You know, I never understood one thing. They already had established Necron cannon. Why not just build from that and say that there indeed was the Silent King who fought the C'tan, he failed in his war to free his people completely, but he did win one major battle. He freed several dynasties of his people from C'tan influence and fought them to a draw, because of which they were forced into eons-long slumber to gather their strength. And now, some Tomb Worlds, when they wake, are actually the Newcrons, with their own personalities, agendas, quirks, whathaveyous. But the majority of them are still under complete C'tan control. Those are the Oldcrons.The Star Gods themselves aren't shards, they are simply, like their progeny, beginning to stir. And when they wake up, the galaxy will fall silent. This is hardly perfect, but it gives a multitude of choices. Fans of the silent, dark figures of metallic bodies, evaporating everything in their path to free their Gods who call to them from their sleep, can still play that. Those players who find them boring, well, they can pick whatever strikes their fancy, while playing the same army. Perhaps those Necrons who are free are doing whatever they can to stop the C'tan from rising? Perhaps some of them are intent on reliving their old enmity with Eldar, or destroying Chaos for good, or finding a cure for their race, or finding their lost king, or perhaps they just want to kill Muhreens and go their marry way. Whatever the case, you can play what you like without feeling cheated. It's such a vast universe, why can't GW find a way to allow such choice of narrative in?
Under the guise of giving more options, they actually took options away, again forcing you into their own, narrow-minded way of seeing their setting. I wonder how hard would it be to give a job to one of the hundreds promising sci-fi writers who just can't make a break. Somebody who knows that making a setting means giving people freedom of narrative, not murdering your own ESTABLISHED cannon and then giving a weak-ass excuse just to make it seem interesting. "oh, but the Oldcrons were boring! We're giving you more choices, but because we're doing that, we must retcon everything from the start and you have no choice but to go along with it! Because that makes sense!". It doesn't. It's not interesting. It's rude, it's bad, unimaginative and boring. Ugh.
Rant over. Necrons and Eldar get my vote, as far as the OP goes.
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