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Why I Have Not Included The Following Chapters:
Ultramarines: Obvious Reasons
Imperial Fists: They Have Their Own Supplement
Iron Hands: They Have Their Own Supplement
Black Templars: Special Units and Fluff

Sadly it really does not look like it. The BRB is $140, the little, mini rulebook is $90. I think it may be that GW have just cut the fluff and the background and just squished all the rules into one volume instead of three?

As for the Space Marine Strike Force, well I've just checked the UK website and it's still £140...So I don't think they have lowered prices, no.

I think you will have more chance of capturing Father Christmas himself than GW lowering prices for the festive season

You completely re-edited your post!?


Forget it then....But FWIW I pick The Soul Drinkers....

Went for my Salamanders, but truthfully, I'd like to see 'special treatment' given to lesser chapters like Black Dragons, Storm Giants or (chaos side) Dragon Warriors (like I said: Salamanders fan).

I'm would love to see Angels Encarmine's (BA Successor chapter) fluff developed.

...and you never know I might get it in the BA book when it finally drops.

D

ANGRY MARINES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would be all over a Crimson Fists supplement if it was released. I love that they are a chapter in the process of rebuilding itself. If they made a book on the 4th Company, they could release a new model for Captain Cortez. As successors of the Imperial Fists, they need a little bit to differentiate themselves from them like their Black Templar counterparts. Of course, if they did that, I wouldn't be able to use the Sentinels of Terra tactics for them, I would have to use whatever that book would have instead. Just as long as they leave Third Company alone, since that is what I decided my army represents.

If they don't do them, I would love to see a Salamanders supplement too. Heck, I would love to see supplement for any of the First Founding C:SM chapters.

Where's the option for "none of the above, space marines already get way too much attention"?

Still waiting for Codex: Deathwatch

 Peregrine wrote:
Where's the option for "none of the above, space marines already get way too much attention"?

Excluded in the Standard Assumptions - you know, along with "in a vacuum at 1 g".

Ultramarines need more attention, screw the other chapters!

I would love to see a raven guard supplement that maybe can make their lackluster tactic be decent.

 Cptskillet wrote:
I would love to see a raven guard supplement that maybe can make their lackluster tactic be decent.

Oooo, now that would be interesting. That or replace their tactic altogether with something worthwhile. Of the other FF Chapters, they are the only ones that really need a boost rather than just a different option.

I think GW should have paid more attention to Black Templars.
Sub summing them into the vanilla SM codex has been a bad move.

Ravenguard (even if FW gave us the raptor suppliment chapter tactics)

why? because They can do a lot more for a sneaky army than the codex can imho.


and by more attention i mean not have them be a redshirt army where they suffer horrible losses in every piece of fluff outside of the little codex timeline they have

SGTPozy wrote:
Ultramarines need more attention, screw the other chapters!

You...I like you...

Ultramarines. Seriously. I want to know more about them, particularly as their timeline only really starts at the Battle for Macragge in 745M41. Who were their previous chapter masters? Major battles? Relations with other Chapters? All we really know about them are they are blue, have a mini-empire, follow the Codex (though deviate since Macragge) and the Spiritual Liege crap. All we have are recent history and battles which are pretty much the same.

None of the above. GW needs to give more attention to nonhuman armies.

 Jimsolo wrote:
None of the above. GW needs to give more attention to nonhuman armies.

yea this would be nice too. maybe a vostroyan suppliment would be fun to include along with the militarum

Ultramarines.

They suffered more than any other army when everything that made them unique in the Ultramarines Codex back in the day became "generic" stuff that any Space Marine Chapter could take (starting with that thieving Angels of Death Codex that looted the UM for units).

 Deadshot wrote:
Ultramarines. Seriously.

Seconded.

 Peregrine wrote:
Where's the option for "none of the above, space marines already get way too much attention"?

I like the idea of making a create your own chapter with options of benefits and negatives to choose from. Say for example you get 15 points on a set of charts with each bonus costing points and negatives giving positives.

Stuff like this has been tried before and was easily abused by players taking negatives that were not REALLY negatives at all or which never came into play or cherry picking different ones based on tailoring.

So I'm not sure how it could be done but if it could be done in a fair manner, I'd rather that then spending more time on the normal chpters or derivations of them.

Ultramarines have gotten enough attention.
I think in 4th ed it has been possible to make your own DIY chapter with your own traits.

I couldnt remember the edition. At one time you could do it with guard too.
I'll admit, I was guilty of cherrypicking the good stuff and taking bad stuff that didnt affect me anyway. Since then, I have upped my game to where I can win without such tricks but still like the idea of that sort of custimization which is why I like the idea of finding a fair way to do it again that isnt as abusable.

 wuestenfux wrote:
Ultramarines have gotten enough attention.
I think in 4th ed it has been possible to make your own DIY chapter with your own traits.

No, they really don't. Think about it, what actual fluff is there besides generic company level battles, the current characters and 1 major battle in 745M41? Nothing, that's what. As opposed to Imperial Fists, Black Templars, Crimson Fists, Salamanders, Iron Hands, Raven Guard, Blood Angels, Space Wolves and Dark Angels. Who have everything possibly different to Cookie Cutter discussed to death in their fluff.

1. Deathwatch
2. Raven Guard
3. Salamanders

Thanks For Voting!

 EVIL INC wrote:
I couldnt remember the edition. At one time you could do it with guard too.
I'll admit, I was guilty of cherrypicking the good stuff and taking bad stuff that didnt affect me anyway.

Which is why it went away, lol.

"We've got Tank Hunters and Counter Attack, but we can't take more than one Terminator Squad!"
"You army doesn't have any Terminators in it."
"Exactly."

 Tigramans wrote:
Still waiting for Codex: Deathwatch

Yes.

This.

I mean they have a whole RPG about them, they offer some unique modelling opportunities and an elite special forces type army.

But no... nothing since 3rd edition.

Because GW hates us almost as much as they hate money.

 Veteran Sergeant wrote:

 EVIL INC wrote:
I couldnt remember the edition. At one time you could do it with guard too.
I'll admit, I was guilty of cherrypicking the good stuff and taking bad stuff that didnt affect me anyway.

Which is why it went away, lol.

"We've got Tank Hunters and Counter Attack, but we can't take more than one Terminator Squad!"
"You army doesn't have any Terminators in it."
"Exactly."

Which is why I would like to see it revamped to make such abuses impossible (or at least so minor as to not make a difference)
The idea of custimization appeals to a lot of players instead of having to stick with a cookie cutter generic marines or vampire marines or flamer dude marines......
I'm not asking for the abusable system we had before. If you notice, I specifically stated that I do not want it to be abusable. Not only would it make a large current fan base happy but could even draw in new players.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

- - GW hates us almost as much as they hate money.

No, it's forgotten only because GW works like the Imperium: The right hand doesn't know what left hand does, and left hand thumb blames right hand index finger for heresy.

 Jimsolo wrote:
None of the above. GW needs to give more attention to nonhuman armies.

This. I still go to bed and pray to the Emperor that he brings me plastic Valhallan IG. One can hope...