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I would like to know if Adepta sororitas is a good choice to start playing Warhammer and if it is an army that can deal with others and beat them, they could also tell me which of these exercises are better

1- Necrons

2- TAU

3-Mariens Space of Chaos

4- Adepta Sororitas



Thank you

Welcome to the forum!

Honestly, though... Adepta Sororitas are probably not your best bet for a starting army, unfortunately. The only available models are pewter, expensive, and lack the customization options of more recent kits.
The codex also lacks scope and options, so while there are a *couple* of competetive choices, you're going to have to run a lot of extremely similar lists if you want to be on the top of the bell curve of wins/losses. Even if you don't care about being competitive, pure Adepta Sororitas just doesn't give you a lot of choices.

You could still take them, it's just going to be a difficult way to start.


Chaos Space Marines are a better choice in a few ways. With the Traitor Legions supplement, they have a huge number of options available depending on how you like to play. The new kits for them look good, and you can start for a very good price by picking up the Betrayal at Calth or the Burning if Prospero kits, both of which give you a huge starting army.

Necrons and Tau are both very powerful armies. I don't care for them personally, but that's just one man's aesthetic opinion.

Sisters are a really expensive army to start with. With some careful searching on ebay or similar, you might just get a second-hand force for the same price you can buy a new one for the other options you listed. This isn't necessarily a problem, but consider your financial situation before buying a sisters army (even more than you normally would).

On the battlefield, the armies you listed basically work as follows:
- Tau: lots of mechs of different sizes, having special rules that help one another. Guys on foot and drones provide more support to the mechs.
- Necrons: very little offensive power, more than made up for in survivability. Will win by attrition if not cleverly outmaneuvered. Expect low casualties on either side, though.
- Chaos space marines: like space marines, but chaos. Performs decently in maneuvering, shooting and close combat, but truly shines in none of them. Good for tac lists.
- Sisters: like CSM, but slightly squishier to small arms fire and slightly more survivable to heavier weaponry. Works by spamming relatively basic weaponry, meaning you'll more likely to inflict a death by a thousand cuts than a single deathblow.

Good god, avoid Sisters like the plague if you're just starting out. Being wholly metal means they'll be an extremely expensive force, and if you're a novice modeller, they'll also be significantly harder to work with.

If you want to do Sisters, wait (hope) for GW to update the range with plastic models. With Celestine jumping around lately and some of the rumours floating around, we might see them come about some time this year (then again, take that with a grain of salt, I've seen rumours about plastic sisters for the better part of a decade now). That's the boat I'm in with them right now.

JuanBta wrote:
I would like to know if Adepta sororitas is a good choice to start playing Warhammer and if it is an army that can deal with others and beat them, they could also tell me which of these exercises are better

1- Necrons

2- TAU

3-Mariens Space of Chaos

4- Adepta Sororitas



Thank you

Sisters as stated above not the best starting army. They look fantastic, but the price tag behind starting a sisters army from scratch is extremely high. You could get lucky and find them on eBay. Outside of the financial viewpoint, sisters are an army that require some thought and experience on the tabletop. They don't have the toughness of marines or survivability of necrons or the ludicrous firepower of tau and as such will be less forgiving when starting out. That said, once you've got a feel for them, they can still be quite effective.
The girls can spam ap1 like its going out of style and with proper target priorities can deal some serious damage. They've got some nice quirks going for them here and there. Again, your matches are not going to be easy and you'll have to play the mission more than anything- there is nothing wrong with mission wins, a win is a win, try not to get caught up in the ever blowing out of proportion power creep trend which always bypasses the sisters.

They don't have free stuff. They don't have crazy formations- well not the good kind of crazy; one of their latest formations let's them give up precious obsec in favour of rerolling failed armour saves of 1 for an entire turn...in a world of free transports and free upgrades and and crazy compounding not-saves and a million other pants-on-your-head-crazy over the top formations; you need to disclocate your jaw in order to yawn as hard as you need to for this so called formation. GW just doesn't have a clue what to do with sisters; marines are special snowflakes, tau delete stuff, you can't keep a good cron down, these are things GW understands; sisters? Nope. Although, if the latest rules for celestine are any indication, maybe they're starting to see a light so to speak. I apologise, I've started ranting.

Look, sisters are a good army; they take some learning and won't win easily but they can still be effective. To be perfectly honest, judging by your post aski g about winning, I'm guessing you like to win? I wouldn't start with these girls if I was you. Keep them as a future project to do, maybe get a unit or two and paint them up and ally them in with a different force while you learn the game. Crons, space marines and tau are all very competitive and frequent winners, you could go with any one of the and not go wrong; though if you went space marines it would make it easier for allying in sisters. Slowly build up a sisters army over time. Get a feel for them and the game; if you really get j to and stick with the game, in a few years with slow collecting, you'll have enough sisters to have a dedicated sisters force.

I'd love to tell you to go for it- and if you don't care and just love them then go for it; but the reality is that as they are right now, they're not new army friendly- either in price or rules, at least not in comparison to the special snowflakes out there.

Which army you start 40K with should be the one you find most compelling. If that's the Adeptus Sororitas, then you should go for it. What previous posters have stated about the expense are not wrong. However, considering the amount of time you are likely to put into assembling and painting minis, you want to pick an army that will hold your attention through the process.

Are Sisters of Battle good on the table? Yes. They are very solid. They can put a lot of light mech with good guns on the table, and they're strong at fielding multiple small units with two or more special weapons in them. What they lack is a flashy centerpiece unit, but you could ally in an Imperial Knight for that. Plus, the new Celestine model is absolutely gorgeous, also makes a good centerpiece, brings a lot of extra utility to the army, and is a steal for her points. No reason you couldn't do both Celestine and an Imperial Knight.

No. Sisters of Battle are not a good starting army.

I love them, they have the coolest aesthetic in the game, and they are not the weakest codex in the game by any measure, but the flaws that keep existing players away from them are exacerbated by being a newbie.

They're metal, therefore are prepared, built, and painted differently than any other model in any GW game. They're website order only, and are expensive besides, therefore purchasing new units or trying out new ideas is a significantly larger investment of your time, effort, and money. And most importantly, they're actively neglected by GW most of the time, leading to long stretches of time where the entire quality of the army is known, and the only shake-ups to how you build a sisters list comes from models being quietly and unceremoniously discontinued.

Sisters of battle are great fun. But I don't recommend anyone start them unless they have another army to fall back on when they inevitably bet discouraged.

Now. That said, they are wickedly fun to play in Kill Team.

And don't get me started on trying to replace lost backpacks...

JuanBta wrote:
I would like to know if Adepta sororitas is a good choice to start playing Warhammer and if it is an army that can deal with others and beat them

Only at 1000p or less.

JuanBta wrote:
they could also tell me which of these exercises are better

TAU
Necrons
Mariens Space of Chaos
Adepta Sororitas

In this order

I adore my sisters army. The main thing you may want to look into to get around the severely expensive models would be any sort of conversion options. Often times the converted sisters are insanely cheaper, and depending on what you do with them can look way better than the original and rather outdated models.

Are they an easy army to use right now? Certainly not. However from my experience it's a fun army to use and can stand up to most anything except flying opponents. Not a whole lot of anti-air...like at all. If you want to go competitive you're probably going to get funneled into a list that's nearly the same as everyone else that plays them competitively. With the new canoness and celestine, you could have a few different options now I suppose, but the rest of them will likely look the same.

Another option could be taking a couple sisters in the new Castellans of the Imperium Detachment. It lets you snag units from a whole bunch of different codecis of the Imperium to make one singular army out of them.

All I can say though is that no matter what has the coolest rules or the best top tier tournament cheese tactics, just go with what you think is an army you want to have. What would be the most fun for you to use and push across a board? The best thing you want to paint or convert to high fething hell. That's the one you should go for. Rules are secondary.

Yes, if you're in to it. If you love their aesthetics, if you like their lore, if you love the smell of promethium fires in the morning-- you'll like Sisters.

But you should take the warning-- they're not an easy force to collect and play. They're expensive, limited, and get practically zero support from Games Workshop (The addition of the Sisters Geminae to Celestine's re-release being the only substantially new thing we've gotten since third edition). But they can be fun if done right, and they are very striking miniatures with excellent lore.

Honestly these people are pretty well wrong on everything aside from price and even that is a stretch.
Don't buy the prebundled squads and you will actually turn up ok, they aren't much different per model from scions.
They are a great force gameplay wise to start with. They are very focused on a handful of weapons and most units share a statline. This allows you to focus more on the gameplay and battle itself rather than worrying about too many special rules, weapons and units.
Also they are pretty well the most recent faction with material in print, in addition to having a great new character to represent them.

"Most recent in print" does in absolutely no way mean most updated. They are very far out of date compared to the most recently updated armies.

Something to know, the rumor is GW will be releasing plastic Adepta Sororitas models at some point. The amount you spend now, compared to the amount you might spend a year from now, may be frustrating.

I would hold off. Just because you start with one army does not mean you can't switch at some point. I originally played Space Marines before switching to Genestealer Cults (back in 2nd edition) before finally settling on Chaos Space Marines - which I never really moved off of.

So maybe the way to make this decision is by choosing the least expensive army. Reduce your financial investment while you learn to play the game, then invest when you know more about what you want.

Out of the armies listed, Chaos Space Marines are the least expensive army to get started with. It's not hard to buy the models cheap off eBay. The only problem is the number of books you need to go with it. There's the Big Rulebook, the Codex Chaos Space Marines, Traitor's Hate, and Traitor Legions that you will need - and that's just to start. It's okay to borrow them from a friend for games, but it's not okay to download them off the internet and print copies - many people frown upon that.

Good luck!

 mmzero252 wrote:
"Most recent in print" does in absolutely no way mean most updated. They are very far out of date compared to the most recently updated armies.

BooHoo no super WAACformations. Spend a little time with Imperial Agents book and realize how good it is. Add in celestine and they really aren't in a bad spot at all.

afk1sec wrote:Honestly these people are pretty well wrong on everything aside from price and even that is a stretch.

"These people" have provided greatly differing opinions, some of which match yours. I don't know what point you're trying to make.

afk1sec wrote:BooHoo no super WAACformations. Spend a little time with Imperial Agents book and realize how good it is. Add in celestine and they really aren't in a bad spot at all.

You know what IA has changed for the sisters? Slightly changed the wording of AoF, and a formation that's worse than a CAD. Agreed, IA is not a bad book, but a) not fantastic and b) all of that doesn't matter for people who want to play specifically Sisters, not Imperial Agents. It's like calling tyranids good because they were put in the same codex as GSC.

Also, the person you were quoting didn't even specify rules, nor did he call them bad. Both their rules and their models are ancient, save for new cheesy Celestine.

Brother Michael wrote:

afk1sec wrote:Honestly these people are pretty well wrong on everything aside from price and even that is a stretch.

"These people" have provided greatly differing opinions, some of which match yours. I don't know what point you're trying to make.

afk1sec wrote:BooHoo no super WAACformations. Spend a little time with Imperial Agents book and realize how good it is. Add in celestine and they really aren't in a bad spot at all.

You know what IA has changed for the sisters? Slightly changed the wording of AoF, and a formation that's worse than a CAD. Agreed, IA is not a bad book, but a) not fantastic and b) all of that doesn't matter for people who want to play specifically Sisters, not Imperial Agents. It's like calling tyranids good because they were put in the same codex as GSC.

Also, the person you were quoting didn't even specify rules, nor did he call them bad. Both their rules and their models are ancient, save for new cheesy Celestine.

Exactly this. The rules are ancient and NOTHING of worth was added in Imperial Agents for the sisters. In fact you are better off using the old codex simply because Repressors exist. A vehicle which you cannot use at all with Imperial Agents. Simply put Imperial Agents is actually a step in backwords for sisters even though it didn't change any wording or rules for them.

Surprise they weren't bad before and the acts of faith being fixed helps certain units like seraphim big time....
And you go ahead and call Celestine cheesy to try and invalidate me?

You must also refuse to play against tau and eldar.

afk1sec wrote:
Surprise they weren't bad before and the acts of faith being fixed helps certain units like seraphim big time....
And you go ahead and call Celestine cheesy to try and invalidate me?

You must also refuse to play against tau and eldar.

Err, no, I was actually agreeing with you on the remark that Celestine is very good. Also, I never claimed sisters were bad, and -again- agree with you on that.

Why the anger? I sincerely don't understand.

Indeed.

If we can keep our comments more polite in tone please.


Thank you.

As has been stated a lot, the sisters are really good for what they have and how long they've gone unattended. They are still far more competitive than some other armies can claim. Even though I'm relatively new compared to other people in my area, I still try and tone back my lists so things can be fun.

The main issues I have with them is an utter lack of choices in competitive lists. Most all of them are going to be identical down to a few points here and there, but that's because it's basically the most optimized list people have come up with. (And they've had a lot of time to do so).

I simply adore Celestine and Grayfax as additions to the army. That and the new Castellans detachment adds a lot of versatility and a plethora of new options to add to a competitive scene. Though I would still insist that anyone playing Sisters use the old codex just for Repressors, it's fine to use the new book when you don't want to hunt down OOP models.

I almost made a Kickstarter asking people to donate one painted Battle Sister to me, so I could begin collecting an army. I was literally sitting at the sign up page thinking about it. I just couldn't bring myself to do it, it was just too pathetic.

afk1sec wrote:
Also they are pretty well the most recent faction with material in print, in addition to having a great new character to represent them.

The fact that you think Celestine is a new character is all anyone needs to know about your complete and utter lack of knowledge about Sisters of Battle. Celestine has been a part of Sisters of Battle in 40k for over ten years now. The Imperial Agents book did almost zero updates, with almost zero new additions to the army-- it's still fundamentally the same army it was in 2003. And it suffers BADLY for it. It is an army that is classified, AT BEST, as lower-middle tier, and even then that's only the specific builds of the army that are basically net lists for the strongest the army can get. It's basically on the same tier as Orks and Imperial Guard and other lower-tier lists, but only if the Sisters player uses a very specific army list.

You should just buy the army you like both in models and in playstyle. It would be wise to do some research rather than let some anonymous forum users determine how you investment a large sum of money and spare time.

The idea of good starter armies is one of the silliest concepts of the 40k community. The game is written in such a way that a 12 year old kid should be able to understand the rules. There is no occult science required to play. Sure some armies offer more of a challenge to master but this isn't something that you couldn't fix in a few weeks by watching some battle reports, playing some games and talking to other players.

Starting an army is always expensive, as in around 500$ for most armies and you are likely going to spend more on it. Now would you really want this to be on an army that you don't like, just to get a feel of the game ?

Also sister models are metal, this makes them easy to strip and resell. If you don't like your sisters army just throw em in some paint removal liquid and resell them with only a small loss or even a net gain if the model becomes a collector item.

 oldzoggy wrote:
Also sister models are metal, this makes them easy to strip and resell. If you don't like your sisters army just throw em in some paint removal liquid and resell them with only a small loss.

This is actually a really good point. This is something you just can't do with plastics in most cases so...

Sisters aren't as expensive as some might think.

Most 40k plastic 5 man kits cost around 36 euro this is 7 euro / model
Most sisters are priced at 8 - 10 euro.

The " discounted " models (SM tactical squads etc ) in the range usually cost 35 for 10 models this is 3,50 per model.
The sister discount deal (Battle Sister Squad Upgrade) costs 25 euro and will give you 5 models making them 5 euro per model.

This isn't that expensive compared to most other armies if you ask me.

That's entirely fair, but sisters are still somewhat pricier (that difference adds up rapidly), and don't forget that other boxes will have bitz in it, making it 'more' than just the models.

What also doesn't help is the high second-hand price of sisters. They are not you-need-to-be-made-out-of-money expensive, but expensive nonetheless.


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Also, we don't get a start collecting! box, which makes sisters relatively even more expensive.

Keep in mind they still sell betrayal at Calth which gets you 30 marines, 2 Great characters, a dread, and 5 terminators for the price of 14 seraphim.

 oldzoggy wrote:
This isn't that expensive compared to most other armies if you ask me.

35 USD for five basic bolter miniatures and no extra bitz is better, in your eyes, than 40 USD for 10 miniature and additional bitz?

The full squad of Battle Sisters is 100 USD, by the way.

You're not really taking in to account how much more the Space Marines get in the example you list.

For $40, Marines get...
A selection of boltguns and arms to hold them suitable for the entire squad of ten
11 torsos
16 heads
An assortment of 22 shoulderpads
11 backpacks (including one for the missile launcher)
A grav gun
A meltagun
A plasmagun
A flamer
A missile launcher
Sergeant w/assortment of power weapons and pistols
Combi-weapon options
Selection of combat knives and grenades/bombs
Back banner for squad sergeant, choice of three banner tops
3 spare hands
10 bases
Various bitz not mentioned such as holstered bolt pistol, scopes, parchments, purity seals, ammo pouches, auspex


For 35 USD, Sisters of Battle get...
5 monopose Sisters that were sculpted sometime in the 1990s
5 boltguns
5 backpacks
5 bases
And absolutely NOTHING else.

... and THIS, to you, is the better deal.