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Honest thoughts, Nantex is ugly but interesting, Ohhh Republic Y-Wing, and a pretty M3a.

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Oh look, more prequel trash and a de facto admission by FFG that anyone who plays the real factions isn't going to get anything for years. I'm beginning to think that turning "not playing much" into "done with this game" is the right decision...

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 Peregrine wrote:
Oh look, more prequel trash and a de facto admission by FFG that anyone who plays the real factions isn't going to get anything for years. I'm beginning to think that turning "not playing much" into "done with this game" is the right decision...


Come join me on my fence of procrastination, plus its an excellent vantage point to snipe from, horrid ships and GW levels of short-term customer lifespans thinking

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So overblown with stuff for the old factions... meh? I'm okay with, particularly if they start doing the card pack thing we're seeing with Legion.
   
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Peregrine wrote:Oh look, more prequel trash and a de facto admission by FFG that anyone who plays the real factions isn't going to get anything for years. I'm beginning to think that turning "not playing much" into "done with this game" is the right decision...


Yes, heaven forfend that FFG flesh out their new factions with actual content... It is not a de facto admission by FFG that people who play Imps/Rebs (I take it thats what you meant by 'real' because I cant imagine you were referring to the Hapes or Chiss) are not going to get anything for years, they bluntly said that they are going to be producing repackages into v2.0 with any new content coming from whatever happens on screen. This wave will also probably be the one that has the new film tie in ships as well. If this upsets you so much why did you bother to post?

LunarSol wrote:So overblown with stuff for the old factions... meh? I'm okay with, particularly if they start doing the card pack thing we're seeing with Legion.

Yeah they said the card packs will be happening sooner or later, presumably when they have made enough stuff to make it viable.

KingmanHighborn wrote:Honest thoughts, Nantex is ugly but interesting, Ohhh Republic Y-Wing, and a pretty M3a.

The Nantex ability at Initiative 6 is going to be horrible to play against but thankfully its on a real fragile platform. I quite like what they have done with the Clone Y, subtle but distinct.

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Yeah the Nantex looks uber fragile and it's still ugly but still I want to try one.

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 ingtaer wrote:
Yes, heaven forfend that FFG flesh out their new factions with actual content... It is not a de facto admission by FFG that people who play Imps/Rebs (I take it thats what you meant by 'real' because I cant imagine you were referring to the Hapes or Chiss) are not going to get anything for years, they bluntly said that they are going to be producing repackages into v2.0 with any new content coming from whatever happens on screen. This wave will also probably be the one that has the new film tie in ships as well. If this upsets you so much why did you bother to post?


It's not just about FFG filling out the prequel trash factions with new content, though I think including prequel trash was a very poor choice. It's the fact that the only new content for the foreseeable future is either prequel trash or maybe, if we're very lucky, more ships from the dumpster fire of the sequels. If you play one of the OT factions the only releases you're going to get are reprints of the conversion kit stuff you already have. No new ships, no new pilots for your existing ships, no taking the opportunity to fix the various balance/design issues from the conversion kits. If you don't play one of the trash factions you might as well ignore the game for the next couple of years because FFG doesn't care about you.

Also, I wasn't aware that only positive comments on the new releases are acceptable.

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To be honest, Those playing with only the OT (Originale Three) factions still have a lost of ground to cover in trying to make the ultimate squads... or play Phantoms, I guess?

I will say this: if I get the hang of flying Jedi in their dinky ships, I swear I will try again with a squad of only Inquisitors (Empire)

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 Peregrine wrote:
 ingtaer wrote:
Yes, heaven forfend that FFG flesh out their new factions with actual content... It is not a de facto admission by FFG that people who play Imps/Rebs (I take it thats what you meant by 'real' because I cant imagine you were referring to the Hapes or Chiss) are not going to get anything for years, they bluntly said that they are going to be producing repackages into v2.0 with any new content coming from whatever happens on screen. This wave will also probably be the one that has the new film tie in ships as well. If this upsets you so much why did you bother to post?


It's not just about FFG filling out the prequel trash factions with new content, though I think including prequel trash was a very poor choice. It's the fact that the only new content for the foreseeable future is either prequel trash or maybe, if we're very lucky, more ships from the dumpster fire of the sequels. If you play one of the OT factions the only releases you're going to get are reprints of the conversion kit stuff you already have. No new ships, no new pilots for your existing ships, no taking the opportunity to fix the various balance/design issues from the conversion kits. If you don't play one of the trash factions you might as well ignore the game for the next couple of years because FFG doesn't care about you.


On that score, well do you think the U-Wing was an acceptable release? We know that the Cassian series is coming out and that should have some new stuff from the very early OT period, suppose there is also a chance for yet another Imperial shuttle (though i cant remember the name, the Pyramid one from RO). There has been some murmurings about the card packs including extra pilots for already released ships like they did before but this time without having to buy an Epic ship to get them, no idea of the validity of the rumor but it appeared after the Celebrations panel at the same time as the talk of the new Epic stuff (new bases, squadron dials, new movement).
The flip side of the argument though is that if they dont stick to re-releasing stuff to make it V2 compatible it will then end up in the situation of people crying about having to get a conversion kit and 1st ed. ship in order fly stuff. So FFG are damned if they do and damned if they don't on this score. Can you see a viable alternative?

Also, I wasn't aware that only positive comments on the new releases are acceptable.

You know that is not what I was saying, I was actually curious as to why you felt you needed to post about something you clearly hate rather than just ignore it.

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 Peregrine wrote:
 ingtaer wrote:
Yes, heaven forfend that FFG flesh out their new factions with actual content... It is not a de facto admission by FFG that people who play Imps/Rebs (I take it thats what you meant by 'real' because I cant imagine you were referring to the Hapes or Chiss) are not going to get anything for years, they bluntly said that they are going to be producing repackages into v2.0 with any new content coming from whatever happens on screen. This wave will also probably be the one that has the new film tie in ships as well. If this upsets you so much why did you bother to post?


It's not just about FFG filling out the prequel trash factions with new content, though I think including prequel trash was a very poor choice. It's the fact that the only new content for the foreseeable future is either prequel trash or maybe, if we're very lucky, more ships from the dumpster fire of the sequels. If you play one of the OT factions the only releases you're going to get are reprints of the conversion kit stuff you already have. No new ships, no new pilots for your existing ships, no taking the opportunity to fix the various balance/design issues from the conversion kits. If you don't play one of the trash factions you might as well ignore the game for the next couple of years because FFG doesn't care about you.

Also, I wasn't aware that only positive comments on the new releases are acceptable.


Okay I'm not a prequel fan and yeah the ships were shiny, and the world looked so 'new' compared to the weather beaten lived in aesthetic of the original, but I love the sequels. And with the 6 month balancing FFG does have a decent way of keeping things in balance. Besides YOUR GETTING OT ships left and right, the Ghost, M3as, the Jumpmaster, The V1 Advanced are all OT ships, now I'd LIKE to have a Tie Hunter, or Tie Oppressor, but there is ships they can put out for the Republic and CIS that aren't trash, the B-22 is one of them, and Hyena is very nice looking. If you want out, that's fine, send me your Punishers, and Tie Aggressors before you throw them in the trash.

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 ingtaer wrote:
On that score, well do you think the U-Wing was an acceptable release?


A u-wing re-release with new content would be just fine.

There has been some murmurings about the card packs including extra pilots for already released ships like they did before but this time without having to buy an Epic ship to get them, no idea of the validity of the rumor but it appeared after the Celebrations panel at the same time as the talk of the new Epic stuff (new bases, squadron dials, new movement).


I would be happy to see this, but as of now it's just rumors and all we've seen from FFG is "new releases" that are just copies of stuff we already have.

The flip side of the argument though is that if they dont stick to re-releasing stuff to make it V2 compatible it will then end up in the situation of people crying about having to get a conversion kit and 1st ed. ship in order fly stuff. So FFG are damned if they do and damned if they don't on this score. Can you see a viable alternative?


The viable alternative was for FFG to fix their inexcusable inventory issues so that everything is available to buy at all times instead of having to wait months or more for a ship to come back into stock. Then they could have just dumped the conversion kits and updated 2.0 versions of the ships all at the same time, and only released new content going forwards. I'm fine with FFG releasing full 2.0 versions of every ship, I'm not fine with them treating those releases as new stuff in a wave and telling all of their existing customers who already bought the conversion kits and 1.0 ships " you, play prequel trash if you want to get anything new before 2025".


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 KingmanHighborn wrote:
Besides YOUR GETTING OT ships left and right, the Ghost, M3as, the Jumpmaster, The V1 Advanced are all OT ships


They're OT ships that we already have. There's nothing new in them, just copies of the 1.0 ship model and conversion kit cards. If you bought the conversion kit you get nothing new from this.

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Dude every 1.0 ship has been updated in either sculpt and/or a new paint job, so model wise it's still tempting to buy them as they come up, it's also hard to expect them to have every preexisting 1.0 ship available in 2.0 with updated paint and sculpts, mass printed and ready for worldwide sell. I think you're being a bit too hard on them here.

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 KingmanHighborn wrote:
Dude every 1.0 ship has been updated in either sculpt and/or a new paint job, so model wise it's still tempting to buy them as they come on, it's also hard to expect them to have every preexisting 1.0 ship available in 2.0 with updated paint and sculpts, mass printed and ready for worldwide sell. I think you're being a bit too hard on them here.


No, it's perfectly reasonable to expect them to be able to maintain stock on all of their products. There is no excuse for FFG's inability to keep ships in stock, especially when they had lots of time to prepare for 2.0. Every single ship should have been available on release day in a new 2.0 package along with the conversion kits for 1.0 ships. If I want to order a tactical squad from GW I don't have to wait 6 months for a reprint to come back in stock, GW is just capable of basic inventory management and any stock shortages are brief. FFG should be held to the same standard.

And no, I don't count a subtle repaint on a ship I'm going to paint myself as genuine new content. Nor have FFG updated every ship. Imperials have nothing new at all, not even new paint on their existing models.

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Not everyone likes to repaint ships like we do, and even then I like some of the schemes. So I generally repaint a ship once I have 3 or so of the same ship.

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I'm not expecting any producer to keep anything in stock if it is not made locally anymore. If they pressed those ships in the US or Europe, maybe. but since it comes from China, I'm not keeping my hopes up at all.

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I thought they were pressed out in the UK.

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 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I'm not expecting any producer to keep anything in stock if it is not made locally anymore. If they pressed those ships in the US or Europe, maybe. but since it comes from China, I'm not keeping my hopes up at all.


Why not? It's not like we're talking about occasional short-term supply disruptions, it's a case of FFG not bothering to start production on a new batch until the old batch is sold out. They seem to be terrified of having excess unsold inventory and therefore won't do the obvious thing and start the next production run based on its projected sell-out date so that by the time it does sell out the next run is on its way to stores and any gaps in availability are as short as possible. So yes, I absolutely will blame FFG for their failure to keep their most popular game in stock and how they treat ordering a new production run as new content that players should be grateful for.

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 Peregrine wrote:
 Mathieu Raymond wrote:
I'm not expecting any producer to keep anything in stock if it is not made locally anymore. If they pressed those ships in the US or Europe, maybe. but since it comes from China, I'm not keeping my hopes up at all.


Why not? It's not like we're talking about occasional short-term supply disruptions, it's a case of FFG not bothering to start production on a new batch until the old batch is sold out. They seem to be terrified of having excess unsold inventory and therefore won't do the obvious thing and start the next production run based on its projected sell-out date so that by the time it does sell out the next run is on its way to stores and any gaps in availability are as short as possible. So yes, I absolutely will blame FFG for their failure to keep their most popular game in stock and how they treat ordering a new production run as new content that players should be grateful for.


Because I work in retail. I know how hard it is to keep stock flowing unless you are of truly gigantic proportion. That's why we have significantly reduced our reliance on China and have as much of our SKUs done locally, even if they cost more. Most of my former suppliers who run a pipeline to China can't keep items in stock for long. Massive warehouses where boxes wait for weeks or months are a thing of the past. But you know that. Because even if they tell you the run has begun at the factory, sometimes they'll just lie to you. I'm not absolving FFG of everything, far from it, but I'm not expecting any stock that is made in China to be somewhere it ought to be at any given time.

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Well FFG have shown time an again that there is a serious issue in their supply line for products (like the amount of time it used to take for a product to go from on the boat to boat to shipping) as well as how long it takes to restock any previous range.
I just thought the argument that FFG should have taken 70 SKUs and got them reprinted (in some cases redesigned entirely), new punch, new package and in stores for release day of V2 to be so hyperbolic as just not worthy as answer. GW failed to it with changing bases and yet a boardgame company are expected to do it across an entire product range...

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 ingtaer wrote:
I just thought the argument that FFG should have taken 70 SKUs and got them reprinted (in some cases redesigned entirely), new punch, new package and in stores for release day of V2 to be so hyperbolic as just not worthy as answer. GW failed to it with changing bases and yet a boardgame company are expected to do it across an entire product range...


Why is it hyperbolic? They had all of the design work done, all of the cards printed, and all of the cardboard printed. The only individual component we've seen so far that wasn't ready on release day was the folding wings on the b-wing. The only reason FFG didn't have a full replacement line ready on release day is their consistent failure to keep anything in stock.

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 Peregrine wrote:
 ingtaer wrote:
I just thought the argument that FFG should have taken 70 SKUs and got them reprinted (in some cases redesigned entirely), new punch, new package and in stores for release day of V2 to be so hyperbolic as just not worthy as answer. GW failed to it with changing bases and yet a boardgame company are expected to do it across an entire product range...


Why is it hyperbolic? They had all of the design work done, all of the cards printed, and all of the cardboard printed. The only individual component we've seen so far that wasn't ready on release day was the folding wings on the b-wing. The only reason FFG didn't have a full replacement line ready on release day is their consistent failure to keep anything in stock.


Production time is limited and priorities have to be set. For FFG the most important thing was getting the Conversion Kits, core sets and wave 1 stuff into stores. That takes production time and at some point they have to make a decision as to whether they're better off using their production time on creating more of the basic content required for 2nd edition or massively diluting their range of stock in order to get around 70 different products on the shelf. One of those choices makes good business sense. Not re-releasing all of their 1st edition ships also allows them to pursue the strategy they've clearly decided on for 2nd edition releases, where brand new ships are accompanied by re-releases, so regardless of the faction you collect there will always be something for you in each wave.
   
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 Peregrine wrote:
 ingtaer wrote:
I just thought the argument that FFG should have taken 70 SKUs and got them reprinted (in some cases redesigned entirely), new punch, new package and in stores for release day of V2 to be so hyperbolic as just not worthy as answer. GW failed to it with changing bases and yet a boardgame company are expected to do it across an entire product range...


Why is it hyperbolic? They had all of the design work done, all of the cards printed, and all of the cardboard printed. The only individual component we've seen so far that wasn't ready on release day was the folding wings on the b-wing. The only reason FFG didn't have a full replacement line ready on release day is their consistent failure to keep anything in stock.


Production time is limited and priorities have to be set. For FFG the most important thing was getting the Conversion Kits, core sets and wave 1 stuff into stores. That takes production time and at some point they have to make a decision as to whether they're better off using their production time on creating more of the basic content required for 2nd edition or massively diluting their range of stock in order to get around 70 different products on the shelf. One of those choices makes good business sense. Not re-releasing all of their 1st edition ships also allows them to pursue the strategy they've clearly decided on for 2nd edition releases, where brand new ships are accompanied by re-releases, so regardless of the faction you collect there will always be something for you in each wave.


It is indeed pretty evident that FFG just don't have the capability in either manufacturing or distribution to release that many SKUs at once, they just failed in releasing the new wave to the various regions at the same time and without mistakes. Arguing they could manage it for 70 plus is just ridiculous, not to mention it would be an utterly insane move to flood the market with all that product that they wouldn't be moving at any great rate (remembering that most people who were playing v1 all had ships already) so they would need a massive uptick in new players in order to shift stock quickly enough for it make any sort of financial sense. Which was a pretty unlikely thing to happen. The alternative would be to release "Autothruster/Palpatine" style expansions, which would not go down too well now would it?
Which also doesn't include them wanting to redo ship models (not just paints) of which so far we have had the B-Wing, both X-Wings, the Y-Wing, the Fang fighter, Ghost and the Silencer. In five waves.

The only reason FFG didn't have a full replacement line ready on release day is their consistent failure to keep anything in stock.

That is why its hyperbolic, why do you suppose that they have a consistent failure to keep things in stock? There are two plausible reasons, they either can not do it (for whatever reasons) or they do not like making money. Which is the more likely reason?
In a similar vein why would they shell out an absolute fortune in R&D, production, manufacturing, warehousing and shipping to rerelease the entirety of the game in one big blast with no guarantee of making a fraction of it back in the foreseeable future? If you went into a boardroom and gave them that business plan you would be packing your desk up.

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As a joke, I'd be curious to see the production schedule of the factiry churning out our drug of choice and see how it scales compared to every other product coming out of there. X-Wing has to be a very small percentage of that yearly output.

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 ingtaer wrote:
In a similar vein why would they shell out an absolute fortune in R&D, production, manufacturing, warehousing and shipping to rerelease the entirety of the game in one big blast with no guarantee of making a fraction of it back in the foreseeable future?


Because they're spending all of that money already to make the conversion kits. All of the new materials are already designed, with the exception of the new-style boxes that we didn't need at all. FFG could have swapped the new card and cardboard packs into the existing production line with a minimum of disruption and just had 2.0 production take over from 1.0 at some point prior to release day. The only reason they can't is that they have a business model where "k-wings are sold out, maybe you'll be able to buy one in a year" is a regular event and there is no ongoing effort to maintain availability of their entire product line. And apparently now we've gone from criticizing FFG over their stock failures to defending "the inquisitor's TIE is back in stock" as new content.


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so regardless of the faction you collect there will always be something for you in each wave.


The whole point I'm making is that there isn't something new for me in each wave. As a primarily imperial player I have had nothing since release day. Between my existing 1.0 ship models and the conversion kit I already own all of the "new" releases, and the only thing each wave announcement is telling me is which ship will be (very temporarily) back in stock in case I want to buy another one. If you don't play sequel or prequel trash the best you can hope for is that maybe you'll get a minor aesthetic change to the model, and apparently if you play imperials you don't even get that.

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Nice to see snap shot back in the game along with targeting computer. The ship had better be priced pretty high though or it is all kinds of broken.

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Snap Shot being a bonus attack also means you can shoot again at initiative correct?

Seems like that's going to be sick on VTG/Ion or Dorsal Y wings.

Ensare is going to be interesting, especially as there's a place near where I play that runs team tournaments. An teammate with Quadjumpers would be a Nantex's best friend.

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Yeah that's right for SS and its before they take actions (other than free ones from executing a maneuver like FTC or FT), going to be interesting how they price it. It wont allow a VTG equipped ship to triple tap though.
Sun Fac is going to be an absolute beast, 5 reds at range 1 whilst the oppo has minus 1 agility is going to eat low agility ships for breakfast. Will take a bit of setup to make sure you have your 2 arcs aligned but not that much.

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