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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/03 05:26:22
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar (2024)
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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I didn't see a central thread for this, so here we go.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/eiv2zqzc/the-2024-grotmas-calendar
DEC 1 Death Guard
DEC 2 Dark Angels
DEC 3 Tyranids
DEC 4 Thousand Sons
DEC 5 Adeptus Mechanicus
DEC 6 Necrons
DEC 7 Deathwatch
DEC 8 Adeptus Custodes
DEC 8 Officio Assassinorum
DEC 9 Chaos Knights
DEC 9 Imperial Knights
DEC 10 Grey Knights
DEC 11 Space Marines
DEC 12 Chaos Space Marines (Bile)
DEC 13 Eldar
DEC 13 Dark Eldar
DEC 14 Orks
DEC 15 Imperial Guard
DEC 16 Chaos Daemons
DEC 16 Chaos Daemons
DEC 16 Chaos Daemons
DEC 16 Chaos Daemons
DEC 17 Leagues of Votann
DEC 18 Genestealer Cults
DEC 19 Sisters of Battle
DEC 20 Blood Angels
DEC 21 Tau
DEC 22 Black Templar
DEC 23 World Eaters
DEC 24 Space Wolves
DEC 25 Fulgrim Revealed
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This message was edited 23 times. Last update was at 2024/12/26 14:04:58
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/03 13:26:28
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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these detachments seem interesting so far. not sure how consequential they'll be, but more options for rules won't be a bad thing. maybe custodes get a good detachment out of this
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/03 17:54:47
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Raging-on-the-Inside Blood Angel Sergeant
netherlands
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Custodes dont need those, they are a pain in the ass to fight agains.
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full compagny of bloodangels, 5000 pnt of epic bloodangels
5000 pnt imperial guard
5000 pnt orks
2500 pnt grey knights
5000 pnt gsc
5000 pnts Chaos legionars
4000 pnt tyranids
4000 pnt Tau
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/03 17:58:26
Subject: Re:The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Tzeentch Veteran Marine with Psychic Potential
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So far the detachments seem to be geared toward fun theme lists, no super competitive ones. I like that. Add some different ways to play for those of us who are not seeking to win Grand Tournaments, only having fun games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/03 18:05:38
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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I’m looking forward to the Daemons detachment.
I don’t Deep Strike my daemons, so the current detachment is basically just the Endless Gift for me.
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Clocks for the clockmaker! Cogs for the cog throne! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/03 18:08:30
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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JNAProductions wrote:I’m looking forward to the Daemons detachment.
I don’t Deep Strike my daemons, so the current detachment is basically just the Endless Gift for me.
Don't you play mono Nurgle? Why do you not deepstrike them?
And you will be happy to know that demons are getting 4 detachments, so you'll have a Nurgle themed one to enjoy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/03 18:10:18
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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VladimirHerzog wrote: JNAProductions wrote:I’m looking forward to the Daemons detachment.
I don’t Deep Strike my daemons, so the current detachment is basically just the Endless Gift for me.
Don't you play mono Nurgle? Why do you not deepstrike them?
And you will be happy to know that demons are getting 4 detachments, so you'll have a Nurgle themed one to enjoy
I did not know we were getting four for Grotmas. That’s neat!
And I win more than I lose just stomping up the table. It works well for me.
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Clocks for the clockmaker! Cogs for the cog throne! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/03 18:17:30
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Fixture of Dakka
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skeleton wrote:Custodes dont need those, they are a pain in the ass to fight agains.
Eh, I guess that depends upon what type of force you build.
Me? I like very shooty forces. So I simply aim to stay out of melee contact, focus fire on a squad or two at a time, & shoot the poo out of them.
After a turn or two of this the Custode player generally lacks the ability to outscore me.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/03 21:16:36
Subject: Re:The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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I'm waiting for... any detachment for Imperial Knights.
And I can't figure out what they could give to Custodes...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/04 00:47:56
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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VladimirHerzog wrote:And you will be happy to know that demons are getting 4 detachments, so you'll have a Nurgle themed one to enjoy
When was this mentioned - I don't think I've read that on WHC, though I may have missed something.
We can't be that far off the first double detachment day, assuming they're being spread through December and not crammed into the days immediately before Christmas.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/04 13:30:17
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Fixture of Dakka
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I wonder if they'll keep the pattern of : Chaos, Loyalist, Xenos going for a while.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/04 13:50:41
Subject: Re:The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Fixture of Dakka
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Lathe Biosas wrote:I'm waiting for... any detachment for Imperial Knights.
And I can't figure out what they could give to Custodes...
All non infantry units taken as part of this detachment gain +3" movment. All mounted models weapons gain assault, All walker units gain +1AP if they haven't moved or charged in that turn.
And now that I posted it, GW is unable to put it in to print.
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If you have to kill, then kill in the best manner. If you slaughter, then slaughter in the best manner. Let one of you sharpen his knife so his animal feels no pain. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/04 14:46:36
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Arch Magos w/ 4 Meg of RAM
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Dysartes wrote: VladimirHerzog wrote:And you will be happy to know that demons are getting 4 detachments, so you'll have a Nurgle themed one to enjoy
When was this mentioned - I don't think I've read that on WHC, though I may have missed something.
We can't be that far off the first double detachment day, assuming they're being spread through December and not crammed into the days immediately before Christmas.
it was mentioned in the World championship stream, when they first announced they were doing the grotmas advent. (Same stream as the new eldar/krieg reveals)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/04 16:02:17
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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...they really need to do a better job of making sure that sort of thing makes it out of the video and into the write-up, then.
Thanks for the confirmation, though.
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2021-4 Plog - Here we go again... - my fifth attempt at a Dakka PLOG
My Pile of Potential - updates ongoing...
Gamgee on Tau Players wrote:we all kill cats and sell our own families to the devil and eat live puppies.
Kanluwen wrote:This is, emphatically, why I will continue suggesting nuking Guard and starting over again. It's a legacy army that needs to be rebooted with a new focal point.
Confirmation of why no-one should listen to Kanluwen when it comes to the IG - he doesn't want the IG, he want's Kan's New Model Army...
tneva82 wrote:You aren't even trying ty pretend for honest arqument. Open bad faith trolling. - No reason to keep this here, unless people want to use it for something... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/04 16:15:09
Subject: Re:The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Adeptus Mechanicus on December 5th... I wonder what it will be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/05 12:51:04
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Fixture of Dakka
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Necron tomorrow. Looks like they are keeping the "Chaos, Loyalist, Xenos" pattern going. Want to place bets on what Saturday will bring? I'm betting Astra Militarum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/05 13:24:26
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Sadistic Inquisitorial Excruciator
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AdMech detachment seems strong
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/05 17:46:51
Subject: Re:The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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For those who just want to skip ahead to the download page on the GW website:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb//downloads/warhammer-40000
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/06 07:13:58
Subject: Re:The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Necrons up next!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/06 12:14:54
Subject: Re:The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
UK
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Crons are up, Deathwatch index is tomorrow.
Crons looking strong - like a vehicle spam focused version of awakened dynasty.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/06 13:52:04
Subject: Re:The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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[DCM]
Tzeentch's Fan Girl
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Insularum wrote:Crons are up, Deathwatch index is tomorrow.
Crons looking strong - like a vehicle spam focused version of awakened dynasty.
Yeah, that detachment screams [INSERT SILENT KING HERE] since he's not Titanic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/06 15:17:25
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
The Great State of New Jersey
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Not a good sign for deathwatch that theyre dropping it on a saturday. In the marketing world, dropping big news or a release about something highly anticipated on a saturday (or late on friday afternoon in the US) is an indicator that negative blowback is expected and the staff doesnt want to take the abuse.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/06 15:36:51
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Fixture of Dakka
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chaos0xomega wrote:Not a good sign for deathwatch that theyre dropping it on a saturday. In the marketing world, dropping big news or a release about something highly anticipated on a saturday (or late on friday afternoon in the US) is an indicator that negative blowback is expected and the staff doesnt want to take the abuse.
It's Deathwatch. I would expect nothing else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/06 15:40:03
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Fixture of Dakka
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So how lazy is Deathwatch going to be? Un-Legending the lost units?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/06 16:01:28
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
UK
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cuda1179 wrote:So how lazy is Deathwatch going to be? Un-Legending the lost units?
My hopes are high, but my expectations are low. It wouldn't take much effort at all to make a really compelling Deathwatch index, you could probably make at least 8 cool kill team data sheets just out of existing models (2 of each primaris armour, vet squad, terminators), and if you wanted some of the spicey unique wargear thrown in just make a lazy promise to make an upgrade frame for it later.
Re-named old index inbound I guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/06 16:41:21
Subject: Re:The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Fixture of Dakka
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Insularum wrote:Crons are up, Deathwatch index is tomorrow.
Crons looking strong - like a vehicle spam focused version of awakened dynasty.
At the risk of being sour without giving it a chance first, I don't think I like this one. It's basically just, "kill more betterer" with destroyers and vehicles vs units on objectives. I like the reactive move stratagem, but most of the mobility falls into the usual 8th-10th stratagem problem of only being able to express that mobility on one unit per turn. And the 'cron discord group I'm a part of seems to think this is going to be the new flatly most powerful 'cron detachment. Which, if true, I've got to deduct points for power creep.
I like the idea of a "cron fleet" swooping around the battlefield to methodically take out the enemy, but this detachment seems like it's basically one interesting mobility rule (the strat) and then a bunch of kill-more-betterer buffs. The Assault weapon rule isn't really needed by vehicles and basically just adds d6" to the threat range of tomb blades and destroyers for no downside.
I feel like a more interesting execution of this concept might be to emphasize the mobility more and the kill buffs less.
* Swap the detachment rule out for move-shoot-move, possibly with a -1 to-hit if that's too strong on its own.
* Have a strat that basically grants better plunging fire so that you're physically putting your models on tall terrain to draw attention to the fact that they're flying units attacking from above.
* Instead of auras of kill-better, make it an aura of auto-advance 6 and Assault guns; that way, more units are more likely to benefit from those rules, and it feels like your lord is personally leading a fast-moving wing of hovering threats. Which while visually cool is also probably less likely to run into castled-up aura buff scaling issues as you're not increasing the damage out put of your units so much as you're just giving more units a chance to do damage in the first place.
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ATTENTION. Psychic tests are unfluffy. Your longing for AV is understandable but misguided. Your chapter doesn't need a separate codex. Doctrines should go away. Being a "troop" means nothing. This has been a cranky service announcement. You may now resume your regularly scheduled arguing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/06 17:33:26
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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cuda1179 wrote:So how lazy is Deathwatch going to be? Un-Legending the lost units?
It's going to be some photocopied pages from the 9th Edition Codex, covered in post it notes and black marks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/07 12:46:44
Subject: The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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[DCM]
Tzeentch's Fan Girl
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Lathe Biosas wrote: cuda1179 wrote:So how lazy is Deathwatch going to be? Un-Legending the lost units?
It's going to be some photocopied pages from the 9th Edition Codex, covered in post it notes and black marks.
Wow - it's even worse than that.
The ONLY Firstborn units that are available are Deathwatch Veterans and Kill Team Cassius - and KT Cassius ONLY in a non-tournament setting since they're still Legends. And since all the other Firstborn kill teams units are Agents of the Imperium, they can't even be included in non-tournament settings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/07 13:08:12
Subject: Re:The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Servoarm Flailing Magos
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Ouch.
At least tomorrow will have Adeptus Custodes and the Officio Assassinorum.
Maybe some version of the Execution Force will return?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2024/12/07 13:29:11
Subject: Re:The Grotmas Advent Calendar
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Long-Range Land Speeder Pilot
UK
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First few pages of rules - it's a reprint isn't it
Datasheets - oh cool there's new stuff and it seems pretty neat, improved weapon stats, better unit composition, a new unit, no more of the long vigil weapon nonsense!
Last page - fixed 10 man squads
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