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I realize that I'm never going to build an entire 40k Airborne army. It's just too much.

But... I could build a Kill Team, and put a Valkyrie or crashed aircraft as part of a display board.

So, here's my idea. It needs some TLC, so any ideas will he helpful.

I thought about making a Harakoni Warhawk Kill-Team, but I despise the armor for Tempestus Scions/Aquilons - So I thought I would use the Cadian Kasrkin as a base and slap on some Aquilon Grav-Chutes and use their turret-servitor and their rules for Kill Team. (Or grab some third party grav-chutes, but they will all have the same issue).

Here's the tricky bit. The wires that come from the guns aren't going to match up. And I cant use the arms from the Aquilons, because they dont quite fit on the Kasrkin. Should I clip the wires off? Mod the lasguns to have the Box Magazine of the Aquilons? Or something else?

Is this feasible, and do you think people will let me run these guys as Tempestus Aquilons? I don't want to start a project that should cost around 120 bucks to complete and have a force I can't play with.

I’d just clip the wires off. If you have a stock of spare lasguns it might make sense to transfer across some power packs for the look, but I don’t think it’s super necessary. Plenty of other rifles in history with internal fixed or otherwise low- profile magazines.

As always, I would be extremely surprised if anyone ever objected to seeing an interesting and appropriate modelling project on the table.

I see no reason why you couldn't play Kasrkin as "counts as Aquilons". But are you aware that the modern Kasrkin models are significantly larger than the Aquilons? Kasrkins are almost Space Marine size..!

 tauist wrote:
I see no reason why you couldn't play Kasrkin as "counts as Aquilons". But are you aware that the modern Kasrkin models are significantly larger than the Aquilons? Kasrkins are almost Space Marine size..!

And Aquilons are a different size from Scions. That's why you can't use Tempestus Scion Heads/Arms on Tempestus Aquilons.

Aquilons and Kasrkin appear to match up.

But I'm not totally sure.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 tauist wrote:
I see no reason why you couldn't play Kasrkin as "counts as Aquilons". But are you aware that the modern Kasrkin models are significantly larger than the Aquilons? Kasrkins are almost Space Marine size..!

And Aquilons are a different size from Scions. That's why you can't use Tempestus Scion Heads/Arms on Tempestus Aquilons.

Aquilons and Kasrkin appear to match up.

But I'm not totally sure.

That's just the modern proportions I think, where all the models have slightly smaller heads and hands than the previous generation "lanklet" models. But Kasrkin models the same size as Aquilons? Not likely. Make sure you google for some scale comparison picts before proceeding..

Found someone who did Kasrkin head and torso on a Tempestus Aquilons legs and arms... at least that's what it looks like to me.

you could clip the wires the drill out were they firt and some where on the grav chute and make your own wires from guitar strings

Cult of paint did it. Looks good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRjBCMtaDjM

Andykp wrote:
Cult of paint did it. Looks good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRjBCMtaDjM

Wow. Looks cool.

Simple but very effective!

Essentially Kasrkin bodies and heads with Tempestus Aquilons backpacks, arms and weapons.

Finally found some heads that will work... they
will be mine very soon... and then the building begins!

This heads look like pilot heads in Valkyrie kit.

 kabaakaba wrote:
This heads look like pilot heads in Valkyrie kit.

That's probably why I like them so much.

My dream army has always been an Air-Cav force. (Not mecha... weird huh?)

Everyone love air-cav. But until GW make flyers viable it's gonna be pure hobby projects. I have 3 Valkyries and only one build and painted. 2 other waiting for better edition.

 kabaakaba wrote:
Everyone love air-cav. But until GW make flyers viable it's gonna be pure hobby projects. I have 3 Valkyries and only one build and painted. 2 other waiting for better edition.

That's why I'm building my half Kasrkin/Half Tempestus Aquilon Kill Team...

I'm on the hunt for a 3d print of the Valkyrie wreckage so I can make a fun display board based on a rescue mission. (Think Blackhawk Down)

Yeah, sadly with FW rules and models largely going the way of the Dodo, you'd have to go back to 7th ed to really get a feel of the air-cav feel that is more than just cosmetics, Elysian Drop Troops were always a sick looking concept and interesting playstyle that contrasted against the usual treadhead or human-wave tactic lists that normally defined IG armies.

 Grimskul wrote:
Yeah, sadly with FW rules and models largely going the way of the Dodo, you'd have to go back to 7th ed to really get a feel of the air-cav feel that is more than just cosmetics, Elysian Drop Troops were always a sick looking concept and interesting playstyle that contrasted against the usual treadhead or human-wave tactic lists that normally defined IG armies.

Yeah, I can only recreate the AirCav joy in Kill Team.

Great idea. So I used some Pig Iron heads for my aquillions. I bought over a hundred karskin (well got like 80- in trades. But I made a customer IG army using mine.

 ghostmaker wrote:
Great idea. So I used some Pig Iron heads for my aquillions. I bought over a hundred karskin (well got like 80- in trades. But I made a customer IG army using mine.

Do you have any photos of your army?

A slight change up.

Because the Harakoni Warhawks are mentioned as using a lot of Tempestus Scion allies, would it work for me to use my Warhawks (Kasrkin/Tempestus Aquilon hybrids) as Aquilons and just use Scions as Scions?

That way I can keep the Warhawks unique (Mobile Drop Infantry) and use the Scions as the ground forces for a Bridgehead Strike Detachment.

I'm converting my Valkyrie into a Vendetta and plan on adding Sentinels as mobile fire support.

I don't understand what's final results you wanna achive. If it's just unique looking Aquilons there shouldn't be any problem. Except vendetta shall gone in 11th for sure

 kabaakaba wrote:
I don't understand what's final results you wanna achive. If it's just unique looking Aquilons there shouldn't be any problem. Except vendetta shall gone in 11th for sure

My issue is that I'm having is that I'm hitting a financial wall.

It is easy to afford kill team and warcry... it's another to build custom units for 40k that take 2 boxes (1 Tempestus Aquilons, 1 Kasrkin) to make 1 unit.

I didn't realize how much this army was going to cost... so I'm having to rethink things.

Its not ideal, but thats where I am.

(As for the Valkyrie, the Vendetta bits are not permanent, I just want to use them before the option goes away)

But I've always had this problem, I buy/build units I like (like Sly Marbo and Trajann Valoris ((who sits unbuilt)) and then try to build an army around it.

Honestly I would get the karskin and just source the 3d bits to save money.


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 Lathe Biosas wrote:

 ghostmaker wrote:
Great idea. So I used some Pig Iron heads for my aquillions. I bought over a hundred karskin (well got like 80- in trades. But I made a customer IG army using mine.

Do you have any photos of your army?

I will try to take some please PM me so I dont forget.

Sorry for the poor pictures my camera is not the best.

Damn. Love the urban camo. Reminds me if the old City Fight Cadians.

Thanks for the photos. It's given me some inspiration.

 Lathe Biosas wrote:
Damn. Love the urban camo. Reminds me if the old City Fight Cadians.

Thanks for the photos. It's given me some inspiration.

thanks I based them off the Vogen commandos that is the lore I made

Finally got my Kasrkin sprues in... let's see how things fit together.

So what's you got? Do heads fit properly?

 kabaakaba wrote:
So what's you got? Do heads fit properly?

The yellowy Cadian helmets are a little too big, but the ones I got from Poland look like they’re going to be perfect.

If I ever expand these guys past a Kill Team, I'm going to need to my Polish pipeline to reopen.