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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/08/27 00:24:12
Subject: SAFH Iw 1500pt
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I should point out now I am not going for max cheese just competive kind.[yes, 9 oblits is slightly too expensive for me, I just like to pretend I have morals] Hq: Chaos Lord-140pts -D.stature -D.speed -D.Aura -D.Essence -D.Resilence -D.Venom -Mocu Elites: Obliterator-70pts Obliterator-70pts Obliterator-70pts Troops: 6 csm-115pts -las/plas 6 csm-115pts -las/plas 6 csm-115pts -las/plas 6 csm-115pts -las/plas 6 csm-115pts -las/plas 6 csm-115pts -las/plas Heavy support: Predator-115pts -Autocannon+heavy bolters -extra armour Predator-115pts -Autocannon+heavy bolters -extra armour Predator-115pts -Autocannon+heavy bolters -extra armour Predator-115pts -Autocannon+heavy bolters -extra armour Total= 1500pts, 13 scoring units. Hq: Perhaps I should drop some extra armour on the preds and mocu for D.armour on this lad?I have that funny feeling I should. Elites: meh, more lascannons really tbh. Troops: Coming from a non marine player I kinda had to fill all the troop slots just because these squads are so dam good for troops, now all I miss is my cheap kroot. Heavy support: Hmm not sure about these tanks, seem decent for a cheap cost,could not afford any decent chaos upgrades.I would take 4 6 man havoc squads with two heavy bolters in each over these guys but I do need some mobile scoring units as oblits aint exactly fast. Bit of a far cry from my Tau rail heads though. No indirect fire could make life hard vs some lists as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/08/27 00:39:59
Subject: RE: SAFH Iw 1500pt
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Regular Dakkanaut
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All your Preds need Daemonic Possession. Only an idiot buys Extra Armour when he has Possession available to him. Drop an Obliterator, and make your Chaos Lord infiltrate with speed. I'd probably drop two Obliterators overall and buy a Lieutenant also.
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Well, as Ed Maule once famously said: "Therion's from Finland, where comp does not exist. Where he's from the trash we're forced to field for a tournament would lose to a 12 year old." - bigchris1313 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/08/27 00:42:54
Subject: RE: SAFH Iw 1500pt
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Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Good list. You've put MoCU on your guys I see (you didn't say it). I think it would be a good idea to drop 4 marines for d.possess on all your tanks. Or drop a unit, and pick up mutation and strength (to wound T4 on 3's) and infiltration and furious charge on your lord (for cheese factor).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/08/27 01:03:40
Subject: RE: SAFH Iw 1500pt
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Been Around the Block
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IMO you need a bassie. Will make the list 2x better. Gazzor
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/08/27 10:25:37
Subject: RE: SAFH Iw 1500pt
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Yeah the guys have mocu, hehe forgeting things already. As for D.possesion, I suppose I could drop an oblit and get it on the preds, also give the lord some more bling. But is it really worth a 18% [maths may be off here] increase in cost on this pred set up?Not like the guns are that great. Hmm I suppose it is a minor thing that I will playtest. As for the basilisk, bleh, ap 3 pie plate is nice but the extra pred may be needed for objectives with so few mobile scoring units I figure. Pie plate are nice though at times, but I also figure if I am going pred heavy I may as well take it to the max. Anyhow how does this compare to other marine safh I wonder,?gets the extra heavy support I suppose and oblit squads but due to been chaos loses the ass cannons and libarians. But then on the other hand has a nice counter assault option due to been chaos from the hq slots and also has a slight edge in ld and longer range fire but loses a bit of mobilty[oblits vs landspeeders/termies] end rant I suppose, thanks for the help so far.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/08/27 19:05:33
Subject: RE: SAFH Iw 1500pt
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Drop the 4 guys, not the oblit. It may not seem like a lot, but it's certaintly worth it to see the look on your opponents face as they think they just did a BIT of damage.
Chuck
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"I know what hearsay is, I do not know what a federal librarian is as I am not American and to me a librarian is a person who helps you find books and then returns them back to their shelves or stacks at night (so your credentials do not awe me, and do not impress me" - IG fan |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/08/27 23:10:18
Subject: RE: SAFH Iw 1500pt
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Rampaging Carnifex
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Possession is probably the best vehicle upgrade in the game, second only to a holofield (which is more like IDDQD than a frigging vehicle upgrade). And it's cheap. I say if you're gonna buy preds, get it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/08/28 00:43:07
Subject: RE: SAFH Iw 1500pt
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Mutated Hull is also very good. Costs thirty pts, but it protects your otherwise very vulnerable side armour against Jetbikes and Fast vehicles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/08/28 02:40:41
Subject: RE: SAFH Iw 1500pt
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Dakka Veteran
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This looks a lot like a vehicle-heavy Imperial Space Marine list, due to all the Predators and relative lack of Chaos-yness. I don't think you'd get any opponents complaining over this list. IW stereotype is double lasplas, double Defiler, Vindicator, and Basilisk. Your list should be pretty strong against non-MEQs and high cover boards, and I guess between the infantry and morphing Oblits you have a decent number of anti-MEQ units as well. I can understand not wanting to increase the cost of the Predators - they are nice and cheap at the moment. Losing a cheap Pred or lasplas squad won't hurt too much at 115 point/pop. This is a very sporting version of a highly abusable list.
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