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Interesting. Probably xenos book art as said. I hope it's got enough fluff to satisfy me. Unless it's pure rules. I wonder if this updates all the xenos lore in brief for the new edition? Then faction specific books will add more depth?

It could be frontis art.

 Not-not-kenny wrote:
Can someone with some paint/PS skills spin it around or something to see how many rectangles it takes to make the full circle? My rough eye estimate is ten, but I might be wrong.

definitely 12, here ya go

 ZoBo wrote:

 Not-not-kenny wrote:
Can someone with some paint/PS skills spin it around or something to see how many rectangles it takes to make the full circle? My rough eye estimate is ten, but I might be wrong.

definitely 12, here ya go

Awesome! And that mirror image really makes it look like some kind of insect/humanoid hybrid skull, Genestealer Cults?

12 symbols. The only things I can think of we might see are symbols for the existing xenos factions and sub-factions. However that leaves two spots on the cover open.

Perhaps we'll see new xenos/xenos-subfactions this edition? If so thank the lords of GW. In order of the one I want to see most. Completely new xenos faction > Demiurg > Kroot > Tau Auxiliaries > Eldar Exodites > Rak'Gol > hrud

Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Dark Eldar
Yenari Eldar
Harlequins
Farsight Enclaves
Necrons
Orks
Tyranids
Genestealer Cults

 Gamgee wrote:
12 symbols. The only things I can think of we might see are symbols for the existing xenos factions and sub-factions. However that leaves two spots on the cover open.

Perhaps we'll see new xenos/xenos-subfactions this edition?

Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Dark Eldar
Yenari Eldar
Harlequins
Farsight Enclaves
Necrons
Orks
Tyranids
Genestealer Cults

Thats a lot of Eldar.

 Gamgee wrote:
12 symbols. The only things I can think of we might see are symbols for the existing xenos factions and sub-factions. However that leaves two spots on the cover open.

Perhaps we'll see new xenos/xenos-subfactions this edition?

Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Dark Eldar
Yenari Eldar
Harlequins
Farsight Enclaves
Necrons
Orks
Tyranids
Genestealer Cults

Only 2 symbols, actually. They are just repeated. One is clearly Eldar. The other doesn't Eldar, but I'm not familiar with Space Elf runes.
I think it might be a Ynnead thing.


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 StupidYellow wrote:
I'm going to say it's Tazyn artwork

Why would Trazyn, a necron, use Eldar symbols?

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
12 symbols. The only things I can think of we might see are symbols for the existing xenos factions and sub-factions. However that leaves two spots on the cover open.

Perhaps we'll see new xenos/xenos-subfactions this edition?

Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Dark Eldar
Yenari Eldar
Harlequins
Farsight Enclaves
Necrons
Orks
Tyranids
Genestealer Cults

Only 2 symbols, actually. They are just repeated. One is clearly Eldar. The other doesn't Eldar, but I'm not familiar with Space Elf runes.
I think it might be a Ynnead thing.


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 StupidYellow wrote:
I'm going to say it's Tazyn artwork

Why would Trazyn, a necron, use Eldar symbols?

Well yeah they are repeating since it's a photoshop of the actual GW leak since a poster asked for it. So yeah it looks like they are repeating. Also the other has been identified as a Tau sept. The poster wanted to know how much symbols could be on the xenos clock and the answer appears to be 12.

 Gamgee wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
12 symbols. The only things I can think of we might see are symbols for the existing xenos factions and sub-factions. However that leaves two spots on the cover open.

Perhaps we'll see new xenos/xenos-subfactions this edition?

Craftworld Eldar
Tau
Dark Eldar
Yenari Eldar
Harlequins
Farsight Enclaves
Necrons
Orks
Tyranids
Genestealer Cults

Only 2 symbols, actually. They are just repeated. One is clearly Eldar. The other doesn't Eldar, but I'm not familiar with Space Elf runes.
I think it might be a Ynnead thing.


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 StupidYellow wrote:
I'm going to say it's Tazyn artwork

Why would Trazyn, a necron, use Eldar symbols?

Well yeah they are repeating since it's a photoshop of the actual GW leak since a poster asked for it. So yeah it looks like they are repeating. Also the other has been identified as a Tau sept.

Ah, I missed that its a photoshop.
Well, that certainly makes it interesting. I hope its not some grand xenos alliance though. Necrons should not working with Eldar, Tau would probably not with Orks, and no one would trust tyranids.
Could just be an Eldar / Tau thing. Maybe GW read the fan theories about Tau being engineered by Eldar or something.

Ugh feth no. NOOOO! Don't do that GW. I have faith they won't since it's such a dumb idea and robs the faction of its independence.

Most likely this is the xenos book that has been mentioned. IIRC they also said that the xenos book will be a little more granular since it doesn't make sense for all the xenos to ally. I hope we see some teases and hitnts of upcoming xenos on the art cover. New GW loves to hint and tease releases in books they put out for AoS.

 Gamgee wrote:
Ugh feth no. NOOOO! Don't do that GW. I have faith they won't since it's such a dumb idea and robs the faction of its independence.

Most likely this is the xenos book that has been mentioned. IIRC they also said that the xenos book will be a little more granular since it doesn't make sense for all the xenos to ally. I hope we see some teases and hitnts of upcoming xenos on the art cover. New GW loves to hint and tease releases in books they put out for AoS.

Seriously?

We're calling it a "fan theory"?

Since day one it's been hinted, in the original Tau Codex and accompanying WD articles, that the Warp storm that protected the Tau was created by the Eldar and/or Old Ones to protect the Tau from the Imperium.

I also hope it won't be like the AoS Grand Alliance books, but I do believe the live q&a mentioned allies so maybe the xenos book contains an updated version of the allies matrix? There might even be something similar in the Chaos book for allying forces pledged to different gods.

So if Tau and Eldar are in a book together (this appears to be the case), what the heck does this mean for the 5 books? Perhaps one of the books is simply a small rulebook and the other four are the codexes?

just putting it out there, it may well not actually be 12 different symbols for different xenos races or whatever, it could just be "generic eldritch symbols", like on the ruins in the deathworld forest terrain kit...


...I mean, it probably is a piece of artwork from a coming "grand alliance: xenos" type book or something...but still...

 Gamgee wrote:
Ugh feth no. NOOOO! Don't do that GW. I have faith they won't since it's such a dumb idea and robs the faction of its independence.

Most likely this is the xenos book that has been mentioned. IIRC they also said that the xenos book will be a little more granular since it doesn't make sense for all the xenos to ally. I hope we see some teases and hitnts of upcoming xenos on the art cover. New GW loves to hint and tease releases in books they put out for AoS.

Someone on the 8th ed rumor thread mentioned that War of Sigmar stated Imperium and Chaos will basically be grand alliances, but Xenos will not. Haven't had a chance to check out the blog myself, but I'm sure this is the case.

One has to be the 40k generals hadnbook with all the rules. I think these books will be fluff books.

Well the big question is. Do we think they have time to make unique individual rules for all the xenos already? The battletomb's in AoS now add unique rules that are faction specific. So if there are any rules like that they will be in there, but then again... why? It removes the individuality of the battletombs of AoS and really dilutes how much you can do.

I think these will be 3-4 fluff books and then the 40k generals handbook.

1 general setting book, 1 for the Imperium, 1 for Chaos, and 1 for Xenos setting up the major events of the new 40k setting.

Edit
Make it the old ones or even the Necrons or something else who created the Tau, but the Eldar... ugh.... what next space marines in tau battle suits?

 ZoBo wrote:
just putting it out there, it may well not actually be 12 different symbols for different xenos races or whatever, it could just be "generic eldritch symbols", like on the ruins in the deathworld forest terrain kit...


...I mean, it probably is a piece of artwork from a coming "grand alliance: xenos" type book or something...but still...

But the circle symbol is fairly tau shaped

and that skull is more than likely nid

its really hard to say with only 2 signs.

The Tau rune is the Tash'var one. If it hasn't been posted. I almost made my army from Tash'var which is kind of funny I decided on Kel'shan sept instead before the big disaster that led my commander to join the FSE. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tash'var

 Gamgee wrote:
The Tau ruin is the Tash'var one. If it hasn't been posted. http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Tash'var

"Rune".

It's been mentioned, repeatedly, that it is Tash'Var but at a weird angle.

 Gamgee wrote:
One has to be the 40k generals hadnbook with all the rules. I think these books will be fluff books.

Well the big question is. Do we think they have time to make unique individual rules for all the xenos already? The battletomb's in AoS now add unique rules that are faction specific. So if there are any rules like that they will be in there, but then again... why? It removes the individuality of the battletombs of AoS and really dilutes how much you can do.

I think these will be 3-4 fluff books and then the 40k generals handbook.

1 general setting book, 1 for the Imperium, 1 for Chaos, and 1 for Xenos setting up the major events of the new 40k setting.

Edit
Make it the old ones or even the Necrons or something else who created the Tau, but the Eldar... ugh.... what next space marines in tau battle suits?

If AoS is anything to go by (which you seem to assume, so I'll do that too for this bit) and if the 40K equivalent of the GHB is the fifth book then the other four won't be pure fluff. The GHB has rules and scenarios for the three ways to play, points for every warscroll, and command traits/artefacts for the grand alliances. Meanwhile the grand alliance books have fluff for all the factions in them (slightly more than what is available online, but not as in depth as in a battletome/codex) and all the warscrolls + some battalions.

This has just appeared.

 RyanAvx wrote:
This has just appeared.

We know.

There's a thread about it on the front page.

As I figured. I like the AoS style way of doing things anyways so no qualms here if it turns out to be that way. I'll likely grab the generalist book and the Xenos.

 Gamgee wrote:
As I figured. I like the AoS style way of doing things anyways so no qualms here if it turns out to be that way. I'll likely grab the generalist book and the Xenos.

I'm still not convinced however that the fifth book is a 40K GHB. I can't remember from the exact wording in the stream whether it would be 5 books in total wherein the grand alliance equivalents would all be represented or if they said 5 ga books and maybe they'll release a GHB that they haven't mentioned yet as well.

Anyone else thinks the skull looks a little Ambull like?



LordShaft.

 Shaft, Lord of Slaanesh wrote:


Anyone else thinks the skull looks a little Ambull like?

It does.. But Ambull are kinda like dumb bugs.. that are a massive nuisance as they tend to burrow everywhere. But could be that Tyranids are in another book

GodDamUser wrote:

 Shaft, Lord of Slaanesh wrote:


Anyone else thinks the skull looks a little Ambull like?

It does.. But Ambull are kinda like dumb bugs.. that are a massive nuisance as they tend to burrow everywhere. But could be that Tyranids are in another book

If shaft gets this right I will be amazed. Like in awe. First of all since GW is doing a new xenos race and second because he got it right. Still didn't someone up above say it looked like a nid skull?

 Gamgee wrote:

If shaft gets this right I will be amazed. Like in awe. First of all since GW is doing a new xenos race and second because he got it right. Still didn't someone up above say it looked like a nid skull?

Hmmm well what if they are hinting at the next release and book? We seen art of the Kharadron teased I think and they also got models. Would be amazing if they put out a new xenos. I would have to put Kharadron Overlords on pause for sure.

Please let this be true.

If it gets you going on about something other than Tau, Tau and more Tau?

I'm all for it too!