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Can a space marine vindicator move 6 inches, use its smoke launchers, then fire its cannon using Power of the Machine spirit? Someone tried it on me the other day, and we ended up d6ing it up.


Thanks in advance

no it cannot.

look in the codex: space marine vehicle upgrades section. it pointedly tells you the vehicle, not the crew, not the machine spirit but the vehicle model itself cannot fire any weapons when it fires it's smoke launchers.

No, unless you are playing the ork rules which allow for you to throw out the first 50 pages of the BGB. The vehicle is NOT allowed to fire anything, it doesn't really matter if its crew, MS, or some other divine force, quite simply it is impossible to fire a weapon after firing smoke. (As smoke can only been fired when NOT firing a weapon)

If your opponent wanted to do this I would tell your opponent that he then has not used his smoke launchers, then allow the attack to go through, then resolve hits as if they were normal and not as glancing which smoke would demand.

You must always strive to break no rules whenever possible. The smoke launcher rule specifically states that the vehicle may not fire that turn.

Although the PotMS rules would seem to indicate that it may always be used to make the vehicle fire, if you were do so you'd be breaking the Smoke Launcher rule without clear permission to do so.


So I agree, a vehicle that uses smoke launchers cannot use PotMS to fire a weapon.

Logan, didnt you beat that guy anyway .

Posted By the_trooper on 10/20/2006 7:21 AM
Logan, didnt you beat that guy anyway .

Yeah, but that tactic struck me as so sneaky, I want to see if it's legal so I can do it too