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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/18 00:35:27
Subject: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Once again proving the US's dominance in fast food and military hardware, a new bit of artillery even the Tau would envy http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/102006/10182006/229994/index_html?page=1 Rail gun artillery guided by satellite. Thats the bomb baby! (literally).
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/18 05:21:38
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Los Angeles
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Sweet.
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"The last known instance of common sense happened at a GT. A player tried to use the 'common sense' argument vs. Mauleed to justify his turbo-boosted bikes getting a saving throw vs. Psycannons. The player's resulting psychic death scream erased common sense from the minds of 40k players everywhere. " - Ozymandias |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 01:56:48
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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The navy has been using "rail gun" technology for years in their aircraft catapaults (which used to be steam driven). It was only a matter of time before that tech would be used in this manner. I can't help but wonder how much their GPS-guided, fin stabilised ammunition costs per round...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 03:38:05
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Nothing exact, but on page 2: "A Navy document brags that the weapon will be cheaper than current guns, offering "missile ranges at bullet prices."" I imagine the true cost will be in driving the 64 mega joule pulse generator, although on a Nuclear ship this should not be such a problem.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 03:39:49
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Battlewagon Driver with Charged Engine
Murfreesboro, TN
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However much it costs, it'll be cheaper per kill than traditional artillery, which has to throw up so much ordnance to saturate an area to ensure a kill. 1 shell at $1000 each is cheaper than 5 shells at $250 each, especially when the 1k shell is always on target and its cheaper cousins aren't even sure to hit the target area.
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As a rule of thumb, the designers do not hide "easter eggs" in the rules. If clever reading is required to unlock some sort of hidden option, then it is most likely the result of wishful thinking.
But there's no sense crying over every mistake;
You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 07:11:45
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Drone without a Controller
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Furious - The US navy is still using steam driven catapalts. They are looking into linear motor catapalts, similar to the ones used on the new high speed roller coasters, for both accelleration and braking.
jfrazell- the shells shot by the 'new" rail gun are solid and not gps/laser guided. The navy has been looking into putting guidence on 16 in shells but the accelleration at firing is to great and damages the electronis. The acceleration is even greater on a rail gun shell and I cannot imagine the electronics surviving any better. Also, these look like solid shot verses HE shells. so they may be great at taking out a target but not area suppression which is one of the things modern artillery is used for.
lord sutekh - provided the guns are laid correctly, a task made much simpler with modern gps and electronics, traditional artillery is extremely accurate. and as I mentioned earlier, Artillery is used for area suppression, to deny the enemy the ability to manuever and allow friendly troops to manuever. You are normally not using artillery to take out a single target with a single shot.
As stated in the article the military has been looking into this technology for a long time so this is really not all that new.
I will agree it is an interesting concept, in its current configuration it could only be used on larger Naval ships capable of generating significant amounts of electrical engery.
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"FYI, the Internet is a communication tool used the world over where people can come together to complain about everything and share pornography with one another." - Blue Loki
My armies (when the wife lets me play) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 07:26:15
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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The article notes the likelihood of GPS for guidance: "It's expected to be capable of firing up to 12 rounds a minute. Projectiles are likely to have fins so that the global positioning system can be used for guidance."
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 07:46:52
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Preceptor
Alert Bay, BC - Home of the Killer Whale/ 'Yalis of the 'Namgis, Band of the Kwa'Kwakawakw FN
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Of course, it would be interesting to see if they could make it smaller, not bigger.
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Because in the bizarre world of in which the Design team live; it rains gum drops, Oompa Loompas dance and this makes sense. - Crimson Devil |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 12:42:03
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Why do all the mini gamers love big guns?
Chuck
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"I know what hearsay is, I do not know what a federal librarian is as I am not American and to me a librarian is a person who helps you find books and then returns them back to their shelves or stacks at night (so your credentials do not awe me, and do not impress me" - IG fan |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 14:02:29
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Los Angeles
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Posted By chuckyhol on 10/20/2006 5:42 PM Why do all the mini gamers love big guns? Chuck
Because that's all that stands between us and and the jocks/bullies/tyrannical government.
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"The last known instance of common sense happened at a GT. A player tried to use the 'common sense' argument vs. Mauleed to justify his turbo-boosted bikes getting a saving throw vs. Psycannons. The player's resulting psychic death scream erased common sense from the minds of 40k players everywhere. " - Ozymandias |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 14:27:45
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Posted By bigchris1313 on 10/20/2006 7:02 PM Because that's all that stands between us and and the jocks/bullies/tyrannical government.
I REALLY hope you don't mean that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 15:03:59
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
In your house, rummaging through your underwear drawer
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He's as serious as a 20-something in the US and A can be, which in the case of that grocery store dude that wanted to blow up football, is pretty ding-dang serious.
Seriously.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 16:08:11
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Fixture of Dakka
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Jester- I love you.
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"Nothing from the outside world can be imported into Canada without first being doused in ranch dressing. Canadian Techs have found that while this makes the internet delicious it tends to hamper the bandwidth potential. Scientists are working furiously to rectify the problem. "
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/20 16:36:38
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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thelosttau - You sir, are correct. I read about this years ago. I didn't realize the first few carriers featuring this technology should be launched in the next two to seven years. If anyone is interested, do a Google search on "EMALS" or ElectroMagnetic Aircraft Launch System.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 12:09:19
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
In your house, rummaging through your underwear drawer
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Posted By Drake_Marcus on 10/20/2006 9:08 PM Jester- I love you.
Hey, right back at ya, buddy.
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"Seriousness is the only refuge of the shallow"~Oscar Wilde |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 12:36:44
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Madrak Ironhide
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bigchris is not a jock?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 13:01:15
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
In your house, rummaging through your underwear drawer
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He says he went to Claremont-Mckenna for the "chicks", he always talks about lifting weights, he's in the choir, for gods sake!
I don't think I want to know what he is if not a jock, Felix.
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"Seriousness is the only refuge of the shallow"~Oscar Wilde |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 14:54:36
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Los Angeles
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No, I don't think that I need to overthrow the government. And Jester, what's with you dropping all the details about my personal life? Making sure to mention choir and forget football, eh? And I am definitely not a jock. I'm a bad athlete. I'm just a really big nerd, literally. And when did I say that my college decision had anything to do with chicks?
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"The last known instance of common sense happened at a GT. A player tried to use the 'common sense' argument vs. Mauleed to justify his turbo-boosted bikes getting a saving throw vs. Psycannons. The player's resulting psychic death scream erased common sense from the minds of 40k players everywhere. " - Ozymandias |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 15:13:03
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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when you stopped hitting on me to have Ed's manbabies. he didnt give out, so you gave up on the manly men and went for the grrrrlz.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 15:14:10
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Dakka Veteran
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Choir rocked.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 15:15:51
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Foul Dwimmerlaik
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Chris rocks the choir.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 15:32:48
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
In your house, rummaging through your underwear drawer
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Posted By bigchris1313 on 10/21/2006 7:54 PM No, I don't think that I need to overthrow the government. And Jester, what's with you dropping all the details about my personal life? Making sure to mention choir and forget football, eh? And I am definitely not a jock. I'm a bad athlete. I'm just a really big nerd, literally. And when did I say that my college decision had anything to do with chicks? Lemme deconstruct the post. You're smarter than this. First, my saying that you went to Claremont-McKenna for the chicks was intended to be funny, as most intelligent people know that you have never scored with a chick. You haven't even gotten a walk-on single. Second, my saying that you always lifted weights is an aspersion toward your sexual orientation, as the reference to your participation in the choir was re: your gender identity. This drunken wavering toward the low-brow was probably too trite for someone of my awesome Internet prowess, but I stand by it. Cheap laughs is still laughs, as the poet once said. Third, I decided not to go for the easiest option of you being a football player, because as many people have no doubt already realized, Claremont-McKenna hasn't had a football team ever since the coach got snockered at the last Madrigal and started groping that dude that invented Oxiclean. In closing, it was a joke.
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"Seriousness is the only refuge of the shallow"~Oscar Wilde |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 15:35:58
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Madrak Ironhide
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Nerd flame war! I'm not worthy
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 15:46:25
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Jinking Ravenwing Land Speeder Pilot
In your house, rummaging through your underwear drawer
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BigChris should know that there ain't nothing but love from this end.
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"Seriousness is the only refuge of the shallow"~Oscar Wilde |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 16:35:56
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Madrak Ironhide
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Flaming love.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 17:32:13
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Los Angeles
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The flamingest.
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"The last known instance of common sense happened at a GT. A player tried to use the 'common sense' argument vs. Mauleed to justify his turbo-boosted bikes getting a saving throw vs. Psycannons. The player's resulting psychic death scream erased common sense from the minds of 40k players everywhere. " - Ozymandias |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 18:45:15
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Regular Dakkanaut
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We can always count on the Americans on spending as much money per year on weapons as the rest of the world altogether, and every once in a while their president has to manufacture a war with a punchbag country in order to keep the business running.
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Well, as Ed Maule once famously said: "Therion's from Finland, where comp does not exist. Where he's from the trash we're forced to field for a tournament would lose to a 12 year old." - bigchris1313 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/21 21:33:42
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Rampaging Carnifex
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Why do I have the feeling that we will be the nasty alien race that conquers space with their superior weapons and anhilates whole planets.
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I know when it is closing time. - Rascal Mod
"Some people measure common sense with a ruler others with a potato."- Making Money Terry Pratchett
"what's with all the hate go paint something you lazy bastards" - NAVARRO
"You don't need pants for the victory dance." -BAWTRM
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/22 08:29:56
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Perfect Shot Black Templar Predator Pilot
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Symbio, I'm ashamed. You haven't read your Imperial History Books!
CK
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"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling, which thinks that nothing is worth war, is much worse. The person, who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature who has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
-- John Stuart Mill
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/10/22 08:57:44
Subject: RE: Tau ain't got Nuttin on us
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Madrak Ironhide
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We have to survive our own planet, first.
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