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Got it free from Sonofruss, he happens to live in the Portland area, so he offered the brass^^I have added details to the engine grill hatch, hang on and I will take pics

i gathered as much but wasn´t sure...

will be waitin`

Handles, bolt heads and Aquila, as well as a lock down wheel!
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Side view on the tank.
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Back of tank with the grill hatch onboard!
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the hatch looks very convincing! didn´t think about all that nneded details^^ so good that you did^^

And it just came to me tonight to fix that, I mean some part of my head nagged at me for the overly smooth look of that access to the engine area.

too smooth to be for real...this way now it looks as if it would be working! if you ever come across the brassedged aquillas i think they are hopefully smaller for such occaisions...this is the only downside of the hatch for now... the boltheads and the handles and the wheel fit as tight as a glove^^

Nice tanks.
If your still looking for odd tanks, here is a couple.

Sorry, couldnt help myself. for real now.

PzKpfw Maus super-heavy tank.

A1E1 Inderpendent.

Char d'Assault Saint Chamond heavy tank.

Char B1-bis Heavy Tank.

Ford 3 Ton tank.

Holt's gas-electric tank.

Holt's HA 36 tank.

Skeleton tank.

No, 1 lincoln machine "little willie".

LK II light tank.

Medium A Whippet.

M1931 Christie.

Renault FT-17 Light tank.

SMK heavy tank.

M50 Ontos tank destroyer.

M56 Scorpian tank destroyer.

Strv 103 S main battle tank.

Ok, its a bit more than a couple but i think they're odd.
aslo, They're all real.

This Aquila will work, and will be brassy looking itself when all is done.

cool tanks, the Char d'Assault Saint Chamond heavy tank looks interessting...

no what i´ve meant was that i think the aquilla now is a wee bit on the large side for the hatch... but that could be just me...

Thanks for the other oddballs!

Your welcome.

A few pages back, my Malcador Defender is based off a Char-1B


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Viktor von Domm wrote:

no what i´ve meant was that i think the aquilla now is a wee bit on the large side for the hatch... but that could be just me...

Mostly an illusion

Mostly an illusion

...*wakes up* "where was I?"

LOL!

More oddballs !! nice stuff , and the hatch is lovely work ,, well the whole tank is lovely work , so much attention to detail ... Baiyuan would be proud !! you really have outdone yourself shazza , it is an amazing job!

as for that oddball M1918 Ford 3 ton Light Tank . have you seen the test videos , they crack me up , especially at 41 seconds lol

neil101 wrote:More oddballs !! nice stuff , and the hatch is lovely work ,, well the whole tank is lovely work , so much attention to detail ... Baiyuan would be proud !! you really have outdone yourself shazza , it is an amazing job!

as for that oddball M1918 Ford 3 ton Light Tank . have you seen the test videos , they crack me up , especially at 41 seconds lol

Thanks Neil! I still have rivet works to do to the Perun before painting can take place.

I loved that video, it is indeed funny, and yes, that section of the vid is priceless!

Other than the Christie designs I'd say all of the inter-war designs are Oddballs. It's a real shame that there aren't more mainstream model kits for that era. But I think Shaso is doing a damned fine job of capturing the feel of those designs.

i still think the rear barbette should have a heavy flamer, but that's just me

Don't you dare paint over that brass, though. If you're doing anything to it, use some Ink for oil stains. But leave the brass nice and shiny! (if you spray primer, just smear it with talc or vasoline).

ummm, Shaso? What's the point of having a grab handle on the opposite side of the hatch from the handle wheel when the hatch should be hinged?

Don't think it's hinged. I think it just lifts out, like it does in real life. The wheel's just one one side, but unlocks all sides, and acts as the handle for that side.

ummm, Shaso? What's the point of having a grab handle on the opposite side of the hatch from the handle wheel when the hatch should be hinged?

that made me feel a bad boy as i loled and this is not nice about the good work of a friend...i think your comment tarnished my karma substantially^^

but i think anvildudes comment is a very good explanation!

My guess is that it is hinged for access and servicing, however, for big maintenance the hatch would need to be removed, hence the extra handle for men or cranes to lift it away or put back into place.

also a very good solution! sounds very convicing...

Sanguinary Dan wrote:Other than the Christie designs I'd say all of the inter-war designs are Oddballs. It's a real shame that there aren't more mainstream model kits for that era. But I think Shaso is doing a damned fine job of capturing the feel of those designs.

i still think the rear barbette should have a heavy flamer, but that's just me

Thanks! I do try to use that old fashioned look, and the rules say you are not supposed to place your own templates over your own vehicles, now if I could have an INferno Cannon, that would work!

Anvildude wrote:Don't you dare paint over that brass, though. If you're doing anything to it, use some Ink for oil stains. But leave the brass nice and shiny! (if you spray primer, just smear it with talc or vasoline).

Hmmm, military doctrine is usually to make all things uniformly drabbed. I will test with either badab Black or Devlan Mud to get an "Oil stain" effect.

SebastionSynn wrote:ummm, Shaso? What's the point of having a grab handle on the opposite side of the hatch from the handle wheel when the hatch should be hinged?

As stated below, the wheel is the release and handle for the side it is on. The hatch has to move by sliding as the Heavy Bolter hangs over too much for a decent hinge to work.^^

Anvildude wrote:Don't think it's hinged. I think it just lifts out, like it does in real life. The wheel's just one one side, but unlocks all sides, and acts as the handle for that side.

You won the prize! you got the idea of the difficult make work for maintainence that they did for this monster!

Viktor von Domm wrote:

ummm, Shaso? What's the point of having a grab handle on the opposite side of the hatch from the handle wheel when the hatch should be hinged?

that made me feel a bad boy as i loled and this is not nice about the good work of a friend...i think your comment tarnished my karma substantially^^

but i think anvildudes comment is a very good explanation!

Yeppers! they do make it more work oriented that way of release slide and move it across to another part of the tank as they get into the engine. At a Garage, they can even have it hoisted out of the way too!

dantay_xv wrote:My guess is that it is hinged for access and servicing, however, for big maintenance the hatch would need to be removed, hence the extra handle for men or cranes to lift it away or put back into place.

Very close as well Dantay! But no hinges as the HB is overhanging the hatch. If the crew has to access it, they can by sliding the hatch out of the way, or I could be using a slide spring unit that allows the Hatch to move away from the HB as it is swung up, but the hatch is big.

Viktor von Domm wrote:also a very good solution! sounds very convicing...

Even that detail I try to slip in as in 40k all is sweaty work!



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As you can see, this is a hefty sized hatch!
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your poor buggers have to sweat for the emperor... the emperor is now not even satified that the guardsmen give their blood...nay...he wants as much out of them as he can get^^

Blood, sweat and tears for the Emperor!

I think it just lifts out, like it does in real life

I did not know this. I'll be the first to admit that i know next to nothing about tanks, other than the fact that they are dead killy, and I can take on out with a LAW rocket if i'm really lucky and really ballsy. thank you for todays learning lesson, it is appreciated, and will be worth remembering when i'm building my own models.


same thing to the others who also answered that question of mine, thank you.

Sanguinary Dan wrote: I still think the rear barbette should have a heavy flamer, but that's just me.
Shasolenzabi replied: Thanks! I do try to use that old fashioned look, and the rules say you are not supposed to place your own templates over your own vehicles, now if I could have an Inferno Cannon, that would work!

Then how do all the Imperial vehicles with flamer/template turrets work? The Razorback, Bane Wolf and Immolator all have to place their templates over their own hulls when they fire. So I think you might be thinking of the targeting rules that prevent you from intentionally hitting friendly models when placing the template over the enemy unit here.

And a massive fan of white hot, liquid fire is a lot more of a deterrent to the bad guys than a few random tracers.

Blood, sweat and tears for the BLOOD, TEARS AND SWEAT GOD!

sounds mightyly like a khorne slogan...

Most of them hang over the sides and such. but if they fire forwards most of the time some of them touch that part of the tank and even if targeting the enemy, if the end touches the tank, it is an area some have argued with me about, BUT I will likely pull the BBB out and look at the rules for vehicle mounted flame templates, the Perun would indeed need a Inferno cannon to get clear anyway as not enough template would hit the enemy!