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 Wyrmalla wrote:
They could have done with making a new command dish thingy for the older version of the Rhino rather than just using the existing one. Something with more ridges perhaps. =/

Could of been cool with an old school satellite dish look like the one that one gothic terrain guy makes

Why? They already have the kit which they now are adopting for Deimos pattern Rhino to make it available for 30K. If you need another "command" option there is still Land Raider Prometheus for sale, which, apparently could be taken now (according to the website description) as a Mechanicum Land Raider option too.

 Yaraton wrote:
Why? They already have the kit which they now are adopting for Deimos pattern Rhino to make it available for 30K. If you need another "command" option there is still Land Raider Prometheus for sale, which, apparently could be taken now (according to the website description) as a Mechanicum Land Raider option too.

The "new" rhino is not 40K only. I believe fluff-wise the later mark rhino was around during the Heresy but not in as many numbers.

 Yaraton wrote:
Why? They already have the kit which they now are adopting for Deimos pattern Rhino to make it available for 30K. If you need another "command" option there is still Land Raider Prometheus for sale, which, apparently could be taken now (according to the website description) as a Mechanicum Land Raider option too.

Because visual diversity is interesting and if you're going to fork over the amounts of money FW want for their models it would be nice to feel like a little more effort was put into the kit than "just slap the old dish on the Heresy Rhino kit, none of the plebs will care". It's not monstrously ugly or anything, just a missed opportunity.

Holy cow I like those new eldar models!

"How can we get the most money out of the sheeple with the least work this week?"
"Er uh... Take two existing kits and mash them together?"
"Yer a bloomin' genius, mate!"

GW is as GW does, brand name notwithstanding.

While the pattern of rhino most prevalent in 40k existed in 30k it was not the most prevalent in that era. There are people who want there rhinos to be the more appropriate pattern and this caters to them. Not every release is a big flashy one. This is just as appropriate as different heavy weapons or different patterns of armor so I don't think it adds anything of worth when you make inflammatory statements about this. Maybe GW thinks so low of its fans but is this the place for that discussion?

At the end of they day we all play a game with toys and there are enough people who look down on that that we don't need to hate on anyone in this hobby.

Anyone else notice that the Seeker Bolters are now sold out? Isn't that kind of....important for Seeker Squads?

Yeah, it's wired. My bet is on retooling, I don't expect GW to cough up a plastic sprue with them any time soon.

P.S. MKII Crusade Armour is "sold out" http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/MKII-Crusade-Armour and so is MKIV Maximus Armour http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/MKIV-Maximus-Armour



P.P.S. What's the difference between "MKIV Maximus Armour" and "Legion MKIV Maximus Armour"?

The Legion version is the newer, improved kit.

the non-Legion versions of MKIV and MKII have been sold out for a while. non-Legion MKIII will probably be joining them soon.

I wouldn't be surprised if they're retooling to bring them inline with the plastics; things like hands on bolter instead of on arms so that everything can use the same conversion kits.

 aka_mythos wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if they're retooling to bring them inline with the plastics; things like hands on bolter instead of on arms so that everything can use the same conversion kits.

Nah I think it's just the non 'legion' kits because they're older, less varied kits. I think they've just been retired. All the conversion kits have been made so far with the resins in mind so if anything the plastics should've had hands on arms instead of bolters if they wanted them to be used with the same conversion kits. If that is what they want all the conversion kits it applies to will need redoing too.

FWs been reworking a number of the earlier HH models I see no reason to believe they wouldn't consider it with these. I think the other alternative is that they'll discontinue the resin MKIV in favor of the plastics.

 aka_mythos wrote:
FWs been reworking a number of the earlier HH models I see no reason to believe they wouldn't consider it with these. I think the other alternative is that they'll discontinue the resin MKIV in favor of the plastics.

They still have the 'Legion MkIV' up. I think they're just retiring the older version.

I thought we knew for certain they're redoing some kits to fit the plastics?

That's news to me, although I do hope it's true as the sudden removal of the Mk V set was a real downer.

News to me too. I have heard they might be doing more MkV stuff though for Book 6, shattered legions and black shields. Can't remember where I heard it, could've dreamt it even.

I actually prefer the older Mk. IV set to the Legion variant. You get a broader range of poses with the legion one, but 3 out of the 5 are static and one thing we don't lack for is static marine legs.

If the general pre-heresy sets, rather than Legion variants, are to start going OOP I'll be a little sad since you require both sets to get a good variety of leg poses for that armour mark.

Going plastic is not an improvement if they follow the BaC example and make them all flat footed and stationary.

I was told that they were redoing some of the weapons packs with hands on them, not sure about those.
Pretty sure they will keep the legion versions and are just retiring the older original early armour sets.

So, I decided to pop Forge World an email asking them about this and this is the reply I got:

Forge World Customer Support wrote:Thanks for the email, fear not for the kits your after have been temporarily removed for remastering. We have decided to make a few improvements to a few of our kits and will be working on a good number weapon packs and Heresy era armour kits to bring them a little more up to date and allow for a more enjoyable hobby experience.

Please keep and eye on the newsletters and keep coming back to our web store as once the work has been finished they will go back on sale. For now we don't know how long these projects will take but as we understand it they will be done in batches of products

Thanks again and speak soon.

So it sounds like other weapon packs might start disappearing to be "improved". I'm betting this means taking the hands off the armor kits and adding them to the weapons, since that seems to be the standard of Space Marine kits nowadays.

 Darth Bob wrote:
So, I decided to pop Forge World an email asking them about this and this is the reply I got:

Forge World Customer Support wrote:Thanks for the email, fear not for the kits your after have been temporarily removed for remastering. We have decided to make a few improvements to a few of our kits and will be working on a good number weapon packs and Heresy era armour kits to bring them a little more up to date and allow for a more enjoyable hobby experience.

Please keep and eye on the newsletters and keep coming back to our web store as once the work has been finished they will go back on sale. For now we don't know how long these projects will take but as we understand it they will be done in batches of products

Thanks again and speak soon.

So it sounds like other weapon packs might start disappearing to be "improved". I'm betting this means taking the hands off the armor kits and adding them to the weapons, since that seems to be the standard of Space Marine kits nowadays.

That's a pretty safe bet, I think!

 Koppo wrote:

 Yaraton wrote:
Why? They already have the kit which they now are adopting for Deimos pattern Rhino to make it available for 30K. If you need another "command" option there is still Land Raider Prometheus for sale, which, apparently could be taken now (according to the website description) as a Mechanicum Land Raider option too.

The "new" rhino is not 40K only. I believe fluff-wise the later mark rhino was around during the Heresy but not in as many numbers.

Correct. It is currently unclear as to what extent the Mars pattern chassis was around though- the basic Rhino is certainly in use, but there haven't been any variants so far released in a FW publication. Except for a possible, weird chimaera of a vehicle that appears to be a Deimos pattern hull married to a Mars pattern Vindicator front glacis, Demolisher cannon, and roof in a background image in Book 4, pg 186.

The Prometheus is post Heresy so far, but there is (was as of Book 5?) a Mechanicum Land Raider option for quad heavy bolter sponsons. Doesn't share any of the other rules though. It is a use for the model, not a HH version of the Prometheus.

Seems the Death Guard transfer sheet is Sold Out now, so i assume this/next week we'll see new ones?

Would be amazing to release one for World Eaters as well (new version with updated markings and banners) so i can start working on my BaC WE and IF

GARRO!



30k rules

Garro is here!

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-AU/Garro-Hand-of-the-Sigillite

Ooh, shiny! Plus, his rules aren't half-bad either, maybe have to use him with my Solar Auxilia now.

Now this is a nice Space Marine model! I will have to eventually get him (and hopefully they will release other Knight Errants).

 Yaraton wrote:
Yeah, it's wired. My bet is on retooling, I don't expect GW to cough up a plastic sprue with them any time soon.

P.S. MKII Crusade Armour is "sold out"

Spoiler:

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/MKII-Crusade-Armour and so is MKIV Maximus Armour http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/MKIV-Maximus-Armour

P.P.S. What's the difference between "MKIV Maximus Armour" and "Legion MKIV Maximus Armour"?

The Legion Heavy Flamers were sold out, when I mailed them about it they said the following:

Forgeworld wrote:The Legion Heavy Flamers are being modified to have the hands attached to the weapons themselves. Once this has been carried out, they will go back on to our webstore. At this moment in time, we do not have a date as to when they would return, but we would estimate it being in the next 2-6 weeks.

pretty nice sculpt. was just thinking today that they were due another character series release. Kinda hoping a new primarch would be around the corner. Really looking forward to Magnus' eventual arrival

I think I will have a nice character to add to my new plastic HH Ultramarines.