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Where I play in tournaments, they use a comp matrix which is very broken/stacked towards marines/against Chaos.

I'm putting out the challenge to make the most powerful list with perfect comp that you can think of...2000 points.

Requirements:

Troops at full size, full size for transport, sacred number, or 75% full size for max sizes of 20.  (Guard platoons max size=55)

No more than 50 points of non-weapon upgrades on Characters/Monstrous creatures/Veteran sergeants/etc

Max 50 points upgrades to any vehicle/vehicle squadron.

Troops=>Heavy+fast+elite

Min 6 different unit choices

Max 199 points in allies.

 

Let's see how well the Dakkaites break this

My attempt so far- Codex Space Marine Chapter

Epistolary (Termie armor, SB, Fear/Fury)
4 Termie command squad (2 AC)

Epistolary (Termie armor, SB, Fear/Fury)
4 Termie command squad (2 AC)

3x6 man las/plas squad with HB Razorback
1x6man ML/plas squad with HB Razorback

5 Man assault squad (plasma pistol, Vet w/pf)
2 Tornado speeder squadron

Pred Destructor (Hb Sponsoons)
Pred Anihilator (Hb Sponsoons)

I think you're going to want to put your terminators in pods so that they are max size in a transport. Otherwise, you'll have to take 9 of them in the command squads to be at max size.

Librarian
Terminator command squad in pod

Terminator squad in pod

Ven dread in pod

Tactical squads in pods

Scout or Devestator squad in pod (take both depending on your reading of a Librarian and command squad countss as 1 or 2 units for purposes of unique units - I think it's 2 IMHO)

Librarian + command squad=1 unique unit.

And only troops choices on the FOC need to be full sized.

6 identical 20-man black templar squads (each with a powerfist) plus a chaplain and the emperor's chump.

That would only be 3 unique units...Need 6 total.

OK, so that would be:


Epistolary (Termie armor, SB, Fear/Fury)
4 Termie command squad (2 AC) in drop pod

5 Termie squad (2 AC) in drop pod

Ven dread w AC and Heavy flamer in pod

10 devestators with Vet w/power fist in pod

10 scouts with Vet w/power fist in pod

10 tactical marines with 2 melta guns and Vet w/power fist in pod

10 tactical marines with 2 melta guns and Vet w/power fist in pod

10 tactical marines with 2 melta guns and Vet w/power fist in pod

Points left over to add extra kit such as apothecaries to the tactical squads and/or tank hunters to the termie squads.

Warboss

-Power Klaw, Choppa, ‘Eavy Armor, Cybork

 

Big Mek

-Kustom Force Field

 

2X9 Skar Boyz

-3 Burnas

Nob

- Power Klaw or Choppa

Trukk

-Grot Riggers, Rokkit Launcha

 

10 Skar Boyz

-3 Burnas

Nob

-Power Klaw or Choppa

Trukk

-Grot Riggers, Rokkit Launcha

 

10 Burnas

-4 Burnas

Mek

-Kustom Force Field

 

5X 10 Trukk Boyx

-Burna

Nob

-Either Power Klaw or Choppa

Trukk

-Grot Riggers, Rokkit Launcha

 

2 X Gun Trukk

-Zzap Gun

Wych Cult (non WWP)
Archite: Shadow field and drugs w/ agoniser/pistol
9 wyches: 2x blaster, succubus w/ agoniser/pistol
raider [351]

10 warriors: 2x darklance [100]

10 warriors: 2x darklance [100]

5 warpbeasts and beastmaster w/ agoniser/pistol [75]

5 warpbeasts and beastmaster w/ agoniser/pistol [75]

5 warpbeasts and beastmaster w/ agoniser/pistol [75]

10 wyches: 2x blaster, succubus w/ agoniser/pistol and plasma grenades
raider [225]

10 wyches: 2x blaster, succubus w/ agoniser/pistol and plasma grenades
raider [225]

10 wyches: 2x blaster, succubus w/ agoniser/pistol and plasma grenades
raider [225]

10 wyches: 2x blaster, succubus w/ agoniser/pistol
raider [223]

3 reaver jetbikes: 2x blaster [95]

Ravager: 1x Darklance, 2x disintegrator [115]

Ravager: 1x Darklance, 2x disintegrator [115]

points: 1999
Fits all comp criteria (although might not fit troop>= if its based on number of units and not points)

WWP version would be similiar (drop retinue, add dracite with WWP, drop sniper squads for big squad w/ WWP)

Tough one for Chaos:

Black Legion

2x 15 Demonettes 225 each
1x 15 Bloodletters 390
1x 15 Plague Bearers 225
2x 10 Havocs (4 Missile Launchers) 230 base
2X 10 Havocs (MoS), 270 base w/ 4 Missile Launchers
1 x 2 Obliterators 140

Chaos Lord to taste (lightning claws and 50 points of wargear, MoCU) 140

Troops choices equal HS and Elites
6 Unique choices
Fill in Wargear to taste.
1945 points so far

Yeah...It's number of units, not points for troops >= Elite+Fast+Heavy.

I'd love to bring my Alpha Legion, but this comp system seems to want to screw over Chaos every way (almost every section is a way to screw over chaos)

That's gotta be one of the more ridiculous things I've seen. It pretty much slots Chaos off big-time, doesn't it. Although...you could probably come up with a very, very, very, nasty Slaaneshii sort-of-daemonbomb within the restrictions for that. The trick would be getting 6 unique unit types:

Keeper of Secrets
Noise Marines
Daemonettes
Daemonettes on steeds
Predators
Noise Marine Havocs

Its a nice set of rules....

until you play Necrons

hard comp = drop pods. termy cmd squad, termy elite squad, dread, 2-3 tactical squads, all in pods, then scouts, speeders to get 6 uniques

Chaos isn't to bad off with those rules either.

For Nurgle.

Demon prince. (165)
Throw away infiltrating demonic speed Lt. (86)
6 infiltrating 7 man squads. (5 x 2 plasma champ with fist, 1 x 2 melta champ with fist, mutation). (1144 pts)
Defiler. (190)
2 x Pred. (330)

1915

6 different choices.

The prince is probably a negative comp...If he has more than 50 points of non-weapon upgrades (Including marks, skills, and gifts).

1 Chaplain in Termie Armor w/CMD Squad, 2x AC
1 10 Man CCW/BP Scout
1 10 Man CCW/BP Tact Squad w/ Rhino
1 Dread
1 10 man Dev Squad with 2x ML, 1PC,1LC
1 10 Man Deathwatch Squad with 2xHB

My thoughts:

Flyrant

1 Devilfex

24 Hormagaunts (S4)

4x 12 Genestealers (4+Sv)

2x 1 Ravener (ST + RC)

2x 1 Gunfex



Gives you six unique troop types, 5 troops and 5 elite+FA+HS. More than 60% of your points spent on troops.

Don't play Deathwing. Honestly; I don't think that it's possible to make a list that would fit...

You're right about the prince. You'd have to neuter him a bit. Just the mark, statue, strength and speed on him + the manreaper. 135 then.