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 Orock wrote:
I wanted to get in on fantasy for 9th, but I am worried that my purchases wont be in the new books, and my area dosent stay in old editions, no matter how much better they may be. How do I even know what I can buy? This has got to be costing them as much money in model sales as it is generating in book sales if not more.

Well, this is why GW doesn't tell its fans about any releases. God forbid they did their customers a favor and didn't let them buy books/models that would be invalidated in two months! Heck, their responses to the 32mm bases mounting up to "oh, it's just an aesthetic thing" when all of the new Necrons have been coming out on 32mm bases shows that they have zero concern for their customers.

The fact that rumors about 9th are out and about probably has people at GW furious that they can't offload some of the old kits in storage.

Even with a bump in base size it doesn't force you to switch to them unless you actually want to, so I'm failing to see a real issue there. I mean I'd get it if you were forced, but unless you choose to re-base your existing models there is no reason to.

Well it's a tabletop game so obviously there's no forcing. Just as no one is forcing anyone to move onto 9th from 8th, but there also has to come the understanding that the old system (which appears to be radically different than this new one) will no longer be supported and thus begin to dwindle in player base.

The 32mm base thing is more of a comment on how GW can't seem to reveal its plans. It'd be one thing if they said it was an aesthetic thing they were doing from now on but I believe it was explained as a design choice from the studio for one release. I just don't know why they treat customers so adversarially when it comes to providing info about plans.

Anyone who got the Skaven dice feel like they are really hard to read? I kinda thought the green would have been lighter/brighter...

I read somewhere that the Skaven almost wiped out the Lizardmen. Anybody got more info on that?

 Fango wrote:
Anyone who got the Skaven dice feel like they are really hard to read? I kinda thought the green would have been lighter/brighter...

I was gonna buy the dice when i thought it was 20 small special dice. Then i found out it was like 20 dollars for 10 big special dice. Yeah as a skaven player all i can say is that's not even close to enough. Hell you may as well use 3 dice cubes of 20 at least and generally get a big fat nothing in results.

 Malika2 wrote:
I read somewhere that the Skaven almost wiped out the Lizardmen. Anybody got more info on that?

It's true...

So does this mean they'll be gone?

NunoTaborda wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
I read somewhere that the Skaven almost wiped out the Lizardmen. Anybody got more info on that?

It's true...

Still say that the Dwarves are in much worse state -

The Lizardmen / Slann are now beyond the reach of the Skaven - but the Dwarves are not...........

As usual no mention of the Far East............

Of the South Lands...

 Malika2 wrote:
I read somewhere that the Skaven almost wiped out the Lizardmen. Anybody got more info on that?

They decided to quit after hearing that they'd need to switch to round bases. Ranking up in a jungle is hard enough as it is.

Shh. NOthing to see here.

Those are all on 32mm bases...

 pretre wrote:

 Accolade wrote:
Heck, their responses to the 32mm bases mounting up to "oh, it's just an aesthetic thing" when all of the new Necrons have been coming out on 32mm bases shows that they have zero concern for their customers.

Umm. The Necrons aren't on 32mm:

Spoiler:

Oh wait, this warlord might be:

I'm not sure if that is sarcasm or not...I'm pretty sure all of those are 32mm bases, don't the standard Necron Warriors' feet hang over the edge of the 25mm base?

*shrug*

So what? Look at them on 25mm bases. The feet hang off.

 Kanluwen wrote:
*shrug*

So what? Look at them on 25mm bases. The feet hang off.

No I agree they're much much better on 32mm. But every photo he posted they were on 32s so I dunno if it was meant to be sarcasm or what...

I don't mind the change to 32mm. Looks much better for SM and Necrons and I doubt we'll be seeing like IG or Tau on 32s.

Lol whoops. Those looked like 25mm to me. I have been served.

 ImAGeek wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
*shrug*

So what? Look at them on 25mm bases. The feet hang off.

No I agree they're much much better on 32mm. But every photo he posted they were on 32s so I dunno if it was meant to be sarcasm or what...

I don't mind the change to 32mm. Looks much better for SM and Necrons and I doubt we'll be seeing like IG or Tau on 32s.

Here's the issue. Unless someone pulls up the photos on the GW site or actually knows how the models should be looking on 25s, the 32s don't look any different.

It's not like a 40 or 50 where it's easy to spot the difference. Cut him some slack.

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's not like a 40 or 50 where it's easy to spot the difference. Cut him some slack.

Nah, I deserve that one.

Fine then...

SHAME ON YOU PRETRE! HOW COULD YOU!

I just genuinely didn't know if it was sarcasm that had gone over my head, that's all. I only know because I have Immortals and Warriors so I know what the overhang is like usually, it is an easy mistake when there's no frame of reference, I wasn't sure if it was sarcasm or a mistake.

 Mr Morden wrote:

NunoTaborda wrote:

 Malika2 wrote:
I read somewhere that the Skaven almost wiped out the Lizardmen. Anybody got more info on that?

It's true...

Still say that the Dwarves are in much worse state -

Spoiler:

only one hold that's not actually burning or poisoned, almost all their leaders dead and the last page bodes very badly for that surviving hold.

The Lizardmen / Slann are now beyond the reach of the Skaven - but the Dwarves are not...........

As usual no mention of the Far East............

Yeah the Lizardmen live on Laputa-esque floating islands

Maybe the Dwarves'll get their Slayer list back?

No wonder there was no plastic slayers...


I think that the dwaf and elf and humans could end up in a forces of light book

migooo wrote:
No wonder there was no plastic slayers...


I think that the dwaf and elf and humans could end up in a forces of light book

The funny thing is that Dwarf Slayers fared best out of the Holds...

What is happening with ogres and great maw?

Some plastic Slayers would be awfully nice.

Avatars of War's box of Slayers has been looking awfully tempting...

 Kanluwen wrote:

migooo wrote:
No wonder there was no plastic slayers...


I think that the dwaf and elf and humans could end up in a forces of light book

The funny thing is that Dwarf Slayers fared best out of the Holds...

I'm guessing Dwarf Slayers will be something that pops up in one of the future wave releases.


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 pretre wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's not like a 40 or 50 where it's easy to spot the difference. Cut him some slack.

Nah, I deserve that one.

I can't stay mad at you. Without your rumor tracker, I'd be stuck having to trust the insanity on Naftka!

And just to be clear, I'm not mad that the GW is changing the bases (for at least the T4/Sv 3+ models at this point) from 32mm to 25mm, I just wish they would be clear about what exactly their plan is.

 Accolade wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

migooo wrote:
No wonder there was no plastic slayers...


I think that the dwaf and elf and humans could end up in a forces of light book

The funny thing is that Dwarf Slayers fared best out of the Holds...

I'm guessing Dwarf Slayers will be something that pops up in one of the future wave releases.

Supposed future wave releases.

 pretre wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's not like a 40 or 50 where it's easy to spot the difference. Cut him some slack.

Nah, I deserve that one.

I can't stay mad at you. Without your rumor tracker, I'd be stuck having to trust the insanity on Naftka!

And just to be clear, I'm not mad that the GW is changing the bases (for at least the T4/Sv 3+ models at this point) from 32mm to 25mm, I just wish they would be clear about what exactly their plan is.

As it stands right now, the only "plan" they've mentioned is that the sculptors feel that the 32mm bases are better for those models because of the looks.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Accolade wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

migooo wrote:
No wonder there was no plastic slayers...


I think that the dwaf and elf and humans could end up in a forces of light book

The funny thing is that Dwarf Slayers fared best out of the Holds...

I'm guessing Dwarf Slayers will be something that pops up in one of the future wave releases.

Supposed future wave releases.

Er, right. Hence I said "I'm guessing."

 pretre wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
It's not like a 40 or 50 where it's easy to spot the difference. Cut him some slack.

Nah, I deserve that one.

I can't stay mad at you. Without your rumor tracker, I'd be stuck having to trust the insanity on Naftka!

And just to be clear, I'm not mad that the GW is changing the bases (for at least the T4/Sv 3+ models at this point) from 32mm to 25mm, I just wish they would be clear about what exactly their plan is.

As it stands right now, the only "plan" they've mentioned is that the sculptors feel that the 32mm bases are better for those models because of the looks.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I don't mind the change to 32mm. Looks much better for SM and Necrons and I doubt we'll be seeing like IG or Tau on 32s.

I could see Tau Stealth Suits getting 32mm bases. Also, any unit that is "Jump-Infantry" (Scourges, Storm Boyz, Seraphim, etc) would likely get 32mm bases. The big question would be, would they mount 'all' Orks on 32mm, or just Nobs/Lootas/Storm Boyz? And what about regular Sisters? They are To 3, but have power armor...And Eldar aspect warriors? Maybe just Hawks and Warp Spiders? I definitely like how the Marines and Necrons look on the roomier bases, so if it simply players choice, I will be basing at least my To 4/jump infantry on them.

As far as the Skaven go, I will lament one last time that I will not be getting a nice hardback 8th ed army book...and will keep praying to the Great Horned Rat that we will get some updated sculpts for Gutter Runners/Night Runners sooner than later. Though with the current wave complete...that is looking VERY unlikely....my new $20 Skaven dice are neigh unreadable (dark pips on dark green dice?!) and my Thanquol bookset has a squashed corner from the lousy packing job GW did...

I am sad to see the Lizardmen routed from the Old World (possibly for good?!) as my buddy JUST started collecting them...and it's really looking bleak for the entire Dwarf race...

Fun to see some Lustria specific scenarios and special rules...but what's the point now that ?