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2017/05/28 18:01:53
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Foxy Wildborne
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BrookM wrote:The clear parts are clipped onto the sprue if you look carefully enough.
They look made exactly like multi color gundam sprues.
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40k Potica Edition - 40k patch with reactions, suppression and all that good stuff. Feedback thread here.
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2017/05/28 18:05:47
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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THAT.
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2017/05/28 18:19:40
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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[DCM]
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If the one on the right is about the same size, I'll be using that as a good 'counts as' option as to me it just looks so much better...
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2017/05/28 18:20:59
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Alpharius wrote:If the one on the right is about the same size, I'll be using that as a good 'counts as' option as to me it just looks so much better...
It even has all the same hard points! Arm with one big gun or a fist with a small gun, two nipple guns, top mount.
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2017/05/28 18:23:19
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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What do you all think of the new deployment? Is alternating deploying units better than the old style? I would always try and deploy second with my guard army to counter deploy. Now each player can counter deploy. (or has this been talked about already?)
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/05/25/new-warhammer-40000-missions/
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40k is as exciting as riding a pony, which doesn't sound very exciting.......
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2017/05/28 18:25:28
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Dakka Veteran
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THAT.
Was there a time when Forge World wasn't superior to standard GW models? I mean since there has been a Forge World.
What do you all think of the new deployment? Is alternating deploying units better than the old style? I would always try and deploy second with my guard army to counter deploy. Now each player can counter deploy. (or has this been talked about already?)
This is a huge step forward. Now if they would only go to an alternating activation game.
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2017/05/28 18:26:14
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Bloodthirsty Bloodletter
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Uh alternate deployment is an old thing they're bringing back. And is far better than the current all or nothing deployment thing
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2017/05/28 18:27:49
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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The only benefit of all deploy at once is that you can use the bathroom and get another beer.
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2017/05/28 18:36:15
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Very poor move; Deploying second is a partial mitigating factor for first turn advantage.
Alternating deployment only really makes sense if you have more interaction than entire player takes entire turn, other player takes entire turn.
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2017/05/28 18:41:48
Subject: Re:Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Stonecold Gimster
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All these images of dreadnoughts... all I see is;
At least the legs on the new ones seem longer, although they do have that 'legs spread' look that most GW models seem to adopt.
Despite all the upscaling going on, I'm still looking forward to this edition. I just can't understand the abuse Mantic take over 'stumpy legs' from gw fans.
Anyone know if the new dread will have all the weapon options possible with it?
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My Painting Blog: http://gimgamgoo.com/
Currently most played: Silent Death, Xenos Rampant, Mars Code Aurora and Battletech.
I tried dabbling with 40k9/10 again and tried AoS3 - Nice models, naff games, but I'm enjoying HH2 and loving Battletech Classic and Alpha Strike. |
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2017/05/28 18:42:29
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Otiose in a Niche
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They... They made the angry washing machine... Worse?
How do you do that? Do you ban your sculptors from seeing what Forge World makes?
Or just tell them "do the opposite"?
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2017/05/28 18:51:04
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Foxy Wildborne
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Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!
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2017/05/28 18:56:23
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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lord_blackfang wrote:Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!
You can't be applying lore-logic when there's new miniatures to sell!
At this point I'm just dropping any interest in fluff, it makes things easier.
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2017/05/28 18:59:11
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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lord_blackfang wrote:Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!
Devil's advocate since I'm on record disliking all this stuff but see a justification here regardless:
Nobody said that you need to be primaris to be interred in a Redemptor, just that Cawl made a new dreadnought design to go with the rest of his project.
In fact I can't imagine it matters in the slightest what kind of marine you are to be interred in whatever dreadnought chassis, so long as you have a black carapace to interface with it.
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2017/05/28 19:00:27
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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The low angle perspective of the first shot made the dread look cool, the full front on shot makes it look fat.
I'm hoping there'll be a simple conversion, flip the armored center bit around or something, to make it look better.
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I prefer to buy from miniature manufacturers that *don't* support the overthrow of democracy. |
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2017/05/28 19:03:59
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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changemod wrote: lord_blackfang wrote:Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!
Devil's advocate since I'm on record disliking all this stuff but see a justification here regardless:
Nobody said that you need to be primaris to be interred in a Redemptor, just that Cawl made a new dreadnought design to go with the rest of his project.
In fact I can't imagine it matters in the slightest what kind of marine you are to be interred in whatever dreadnought chassis, so long as you have a black carapace to interface with it.
This.
But this idea that the primaris are all newbies keeps constantly coming up. It is not true! They said that existing marines can be upgraded into primaris. Some of the officercs/NCOs shown have service studs. They're not newbies.
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2017/05/28 19:04:26
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Brutal Black Orc
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Flood wrote: lord_blackfang wrote:Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!
You can't be applying lore-logic when there's new miniatures to sell!
At this point I'm just dropping any interest in fluff, it makes things easier.
Actually you can apply lore logic!
Regular marines can be upgraded to primars, ergo a dreadnought of this type contains an upgraded primaris!
Wow, who would have thought!
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2017/05/28 19:13:24
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Nasty Nob
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I'm just happy that GW is finally putting out models that I have no interest in buying. Not slamming anyone else's taste, but I have zero interest in any of the new marine aesthetic so far. Such a huge relief to my wallet.
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2017/05/28 19:19:42
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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lord_blackfang wrote:Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!
firstly, the project has been under development for 10k years. Second, Cawl could have done live combat tests quarantined from the rest of the imperium, especially if assaulting ork held territory.
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I collect:
Grand alliance death (whole alliance)
Stormcast eternals
Slaves to Darkness - currently Nurgle but may expand to undivided.
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2017/05/28 19:24:08
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Waaagh! Warbiker
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Kid_Kyoto wrote:
They... They made the angry washing machine... Worse?
How do you do that? Do you ban your sculptors from seeing what Forge World makes?
Or just tell them "do the opposite"?
I think they have used the old Rogue trader dredds as inspiration, it reminds me a bit of them.
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2017/05/28 19:24:22
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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It's actually another throwback to older editions (3rd I believe). The only difference being that previously you were required to set up units in a specific order. Something along the lines of Heavy Support>Elites>Troops>Fast Attack. I kind of like it honestly. Still plenty of room for cat and mouse shenanigans, but less all or nothing.
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2017/05/28 19:25:44
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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Well the Primaris guys also have officers so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Maybe the dreads are just guys who were hardwired into a dread instead of becoming intercessors. That seems pretty grimdark
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2017/05/28 19:25:46
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Fixture of Dakka
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Looks like a Dragon Battlemech...
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"The Omnissiah is my Moderati" |
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2017/05/28 19:28:09
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Assuming the rules for the new Dread are better than the Leviathan I consider it a win as the Leviathan model is just super sexy.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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2017/05/28 19:28:22
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Lord Kragan wrote: Flood wrote: lord_blackfang wrote:Why do Primaris even have Dreadnoughts? They're intended to preserve culture and tactical experience, right? Any Marine inside a Primaris Dreadnought right now was pretty much born yesterday and killed in his first mission. Truly worth saving!
You can't be applying lore-logic when there's new miniatures to sell!
At this point I'm just dropping any interest in fluff, it makes things easier.
Actually you can apply lore logic!
Regular marines can be upgraded to primars, ergo a dreadnought of this type contains an upgraded primaris!
Wow, who would have thought!
we also don't know what the start date for 8th edition will be. for all we know 8th edition is decades if not centuries after the events of GS3
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2017/05/28 19:33:52
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I don't like the dreadnought in its default pose, but the striding forward pics Mad Dok posted make it look a lot better imo.
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2017/05/28 19:37:11
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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That dread top on Leviathan legs might be perfection incarnate
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2017/05/28 19:37:44
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Member of a Lodge? I Can't Say
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I'm going to get an ork to model under mine. Two of my friends who play do Orks.
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2017/05/28 20:06:20
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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NivlacSupreme wrote:I'm going to get an ork to model under mine. Two of my friends who play do Orks.
I do that in my fantasy armies. one of my guys is killing a demon because a friend plays demons.
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I collect:
Grand alliance death (whole alliance)
Stormcast eternals
Slaves to Darkness - currently Nurgle but may expand to undivided.
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2017/05/28 20:07:43
Subject: Warhammer 40k 8th Edition Summary - 27 May 2017: Rule Book Leak\WHfest Live Blog(all info in OP)
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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That Dreadnought looks awful. Ungainly, dumpy and ugly in a bad way. Not ungainly and ugly in a good way like the boxnaught. The Boxnaught has a brutish simplicity to it's design that makes it effective. That new thing isn't awe inspiring at all. And it's laughable compared to the Leviathan. It looks like something out of the Star Wars prequels.
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