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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/12 06:02:02
Subject: Infiltrating Raptors
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
Between a rock and a hard place
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Can Alpha Legion Raptors have the discounted Infiltrate skill? The entry says any Chaos Space Marine on foot. 1) To what does Chaos Space Marine refer? Anything which has that squad name? Anything which has that profile (e.g. Havocs)? 2) Jetpacks start off the turn "on foot" - but they do they count as such? I'm thinking they don't get it, but the use of the words Chaos Space Marine also seems to rule out ICs from having it, despite the fact that they have a seperate cost.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/12 06:24:12
Subject: RE: Infiltrating Raptors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Raptors are models on foot. As in they are not mounted on/in anything. The only things that can't get the discount are bikes and models with dedicated transports.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/12 07:03:56
Subject: RE: Infiltrating Raptors
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
Between a rock and a hard place
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Cheers.
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"The Imperium looks at it this way. Your armor can either protect you from an anti-tank rocket, or a garden hose. But not both". DragonPup
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/12 11:01:08
Subject: RE: Infiltrating Raptors
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
The drinking halls of Fenris or South London as its sometimes called
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hmm sound fishy to me. . . . .
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/12 11:24:05
Subject: RE: Infiltrating Raptors
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Furious Raptor
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Sounds very fishy, but also very cool. very very cool indeed.
Be great for killing tanks especially if you get first turn, give them three meltas/2 meltas 1 plas and slap on an asp champ with melta bombs and go land raider/falcon hunting
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/12 11:50:52
Subject: RE: Infiltrating Raptors
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Angelic Adepta Sororitas
Inland Empire, CA
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It sounds pretty sweet - but it's not as effective as one might think. Someone has tried this build with Nightlords (given the extra Raptor choices) and it is not as effective as an infiltrating 88 Alpha Chaos list.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/18 07:59:13
Subject: RE: Infiltrating Raptors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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The big problem is that escalation trumps infiltrate, so in 2/3 of the games, your infiltrating raptors either don't get to infiltrate or start off the board.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/18 10:09:38
Subject: RE: Infiltrating Raptors
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Daring Dark Eldar Raider Rider
Between a rock and a hard place
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But for a unit of 6, it's only 6 points. Which is worth only using it in a third of matches I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/18 10:36:16
Subject: RE: Infiltrating Raptors
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Been Around the Block
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2/3rds of the games? I've yet to play an escalation game....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/18 16:51:44
Subject: RE: Infiltrating Raptors
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Ancient Chaos Terminator
South Pasadena
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If you are playing the missions in the back of the BGB, then 1/3 of the games are "Alpha" and there is no infiltrating and 1/3 of the games are "Omega" and the raptors start in reserve. If you play in RTT's and they use the 3rd ed missions, then 5(?) of the 14 are also reserves and many do not have the "infiltrators" rule.
Darrian
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/19 03:16:37
Subject: RE: Infiltrating Raptors
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Tilter at Windmills
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Exactly. If you're playing without the proper ratio of Alpha (no Infiltrate), Gamma (perfect for this list) and Omega (Raptors forced into Reserves), all-infiltrating Alpha Legion will be very powerful indeed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/11/19 03:47:42
Subject: RE: Infiltrating Raptors
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I prefer not to have everything infiltrate in my list...I like clearing out some areas to put my guys just in case
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