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dogma wrote:Ah, not that sort of para-consistency. One of the other sorts. The one that allows for P and -P to be simultaneously true.

Oh. Okay then.

ChaosGalvatron wrote:How did you decide that the faith/denomination you chose had the answers versus other denominations/faiths?
And isnt your last sentence indicating that you use facts where available, and where they are unavailable you turn to religion?

I didn't really select my denomintion. I was born and raised in it, and Catholicism is a very cultural religion, whereas Protestentism is far more focused on the individual and his relationship with God. It's simply a matter of comfort. It helps that I can find a Catholic church pretty much anywhere in the world and know what to expect.

As for other faiths, I'm ecumenical. I'm not 100% sure that my faith wasn't an elaborate pyramid scheme created by four unemployed writers in the levant two thousand years ago, so I'm really not going to overly critical of other religious traditions. I'm not sure non-christians enjoy the same salvation, but there doesn't seem to be any reason they won't get the afterlife they believe in.

And of course I use facts where available. Religion has always been a source of answers to questions that emperical fields can't answer. As science answers more and more questions, we need to rely on religion less and less. Wise denominations recognize this. For example, as psychology has flowered, the Catholic Church has softened it's stance on suicide (if committed under mental illness, it's by definition not a sin) and divorce/annulment (a person incapable of understanding marriage can't be held to it).

Cryonicleech wrote:
Essentially, all these stupid "God's not real" threads devolve into people stroking their pointless internet egos in an attempt to say "Ha ha ha I win because my logic is the best"

This may be true, but it sure is fun to watch. And it's not all just internet chest thrumping; I have learned things from thread like this. Often times people will bring up something new to me that sparks my interest or that I don't really understand. I then go to google or wikipedia or whanot to find out more about it. Hell, I've even gone to the library and checked out books on stuff that has been brought up in threads like this.

Yeah, theres arguing and trolling. What did you expect, people to discuss their opinions in a polite and civil manner? This is the internet.
But sometimes you learn something new! Hooray for knowledge!



And Polonius deserves some sort of award for most level-headed poster in this thread, I think.