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Is this a problem for some people? <--- Honest question.
I don't mind them when i've done something wrong. I mind the arrogance that comes with quite often comes with that or when they lie on forms about what they've searched you for. :/
Lying on forms and such is a dick move. I agree with you, there Nomsheep.
Experienced the same sort of stop as you Kronk, though it was in a " known bad neighborhood"( Not a "rich" area) and not a " known drug route"..
Both Cops ripped the car my friend and I were in damn near apart, called back up...continued to question us on end ...though we had absolutely nothing on us at all, asked us where we " threw the dope"...repeatedly...searched us...repeatedly...and after almost an hour of detaining us, all the while finding nothing..finally told us to " get the feth out of the area and if they saw us there again we'd go to jail"...which was pretty funny...as we both lived in that neighborhood.
Now, during this entire situation...neither myself nor my buddy mouthed off, really said very little to the cops at all...other than answer some of their questions...however when my friend asked why exactly we'd been stopped one officer replied ...and I qoute " Well look at ya.."
Should note we were both wearing " Punk" attire and had kooky hair cuts/colors...
So...yes a bit of a problem with that sort of thing.
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FITZZ wrote: Experienced the same sort of stop as you Kronk, though it was in a " known bad neighborhood"( Not a "rich" area) and not a " known drug route"..
Both Cops ripped the car my friend and I were in damn near apart, called back up...continued to question us on end ...though we had absolutely nothing on us at all, asked us where we " threw the dope"...repeatedly...searched us...repeatedly...and after almost an hour of detaining us, all the while finding nothing..finally told us to " get the feth out of the area and if they saw us there again we'd go to jail"...which was pretty funny...as we both lived in that neighborhood.
Now, during this entire situation...neither myself nor my buddy mouthed off, really said very little to the cops at all...other than answer some of their questions...however when my friend asked why exactly we'd been stopped one officer replied ...and I qoute " Well look at ya.."
Should note we were both wearing " Punk" attire and had kooky hair cuts/colors...
So...yes a bit of a problem with that sort of thing.
Maybe you should have taken off the clown makeup?
Fittz responding to a polite request to provide his ID:
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
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FITZZ wrote: Didn't have the clown face on that time Frazz...imagine if I did the situation may have ended simular to that video.
Except of course if you were in the aforementioned East Texas...
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
FITZZ wrote: Didn't have the clown face on that time Frazz...imagine if I did the situation may have ended simular to that video.
Except of course if you were in the aforementioned East Texas...
...You know, the whole time I was in Texas ( Houston) I only had two run ins with any cops and both times they were both pretty decent guys, one was a bit..." cowboyish"...but for the most part neither was as "hardassed" as I expected Texas cops to be....Gulfport Mississippi on the other hand.. ...I'd sooner run through hell in gasoline soaked underwear than deal with them again.
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DIDM wrote:as tired as you are, there are many many more who are tired of what the police have become
if you can't see a problem with modern policing then you are one of THEM
I can't see a problem with modern policing--outside of the crummy pay, the lack of educational and ethical admission standards, the constant hate shoveled their way, the attempts by protesters to always coordinate it so that the police are videotaped "throwing the first punch" whilst the police video which is unedited and not available to the general public will show that the protesters had been trying to ramp up the situation for hours beforehand, etc.
Seriously. You want better police? You have a better pay standard, a better protection system within the organization for those willing to compromise the "wall of silence" to report issues they've observed, etc.
As it stands now, whistleblowers will generally not come forward. Why? The job's stressful enough without having to worry about knives at your back from the people who are supposed to be watching it.
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not talking about protests at all
I live i a city where the cops shoot first and then start thinking
Cops think they have more power than they do, not all cops, but a very big percentage. My brother is a cop in San Francisco, he tells me all sorts of messed up gak that the cops there do too.
Modern policing needs a complete overhaul, it is just a bloody mess ATM.
Kilkrazy wrote:Ordinary people don't necessarily make much distinction between the police, the courts and the government. They are all "The Man".
Then maybe ordinary people need to wise up.
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FITZZ wrote: So...yes a bit of a problem with that sort of thing.
And you should have a problem with that experience. I certainly do.
But it's very different from mine. What are your thoughts on what happened to me, out of curiousity.
Overall, I'm not crazy about the idea of "profiling" an area...but, it sounds as if you and your friend were dealing with officers who were acting in a professional manner and just trying to do what there job entailed.
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Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
I climbed a building with my friend, got pulled by the police because they thought we were gonna break in, which is fair enough sincethere are several banks next door. He 'searched' us for drugs by getting us to open our baccy tins and marked down that we had been searched for stolen property.
I didn't think it was legal for a cop to search us on his own?
nom
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Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
AustonT wrote:Did you know that it's illegal to possess a lobster?
only if its hot.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Powder Burns wrote:what they need to make is a fullsize leatherman, like 14" long folded, with a bone saw, notches for bowstring, signaling flare, electrical hand crank generator, bolt cutters..
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Dude, that was a dad joke through and through...*groan*
But I do fully approve
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Blackskullandy wrote:Just playing devil's advocate here... That statement seems to assume that the Police are held accountable for every breech in protocol and that no cop ever covers up for another. Which i find hard to believe.
No, it doesn't. It becomes a simple, obvious matter of what is, and what is not recorded on the camera. The cameras are supposed to run for the duration of the shift, and if they suddenly aren't working for the ten minutes in which the dubious arrest was made, then it just doesn't matter that other officers are willing to cover up the issue - there is no footage, and that automatically makes the officer's claims dubious.
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Kanluwen wrote:Just a helpful hint: but if multiple police officers stop you and question you, you might want to rethink your behavior because you're doing SOMETHING that is raising a red flag.
That red flag could be owning a bad car while living in a good neighbourhood (because you're forgoing the flash car while you pay your mortgage down, something that should be encouraged, but often just ends up getting you hassled by cops).
It's just a sad reality that 'reasonable suspicion' is a very grey area, and the thing you're doing to raise suspicion is not necessarily something you can or should stop doing. This means some honest people can get jerked around by an overly zealous police force for stuff that is not of their doing.
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whew that was a good lobster commercial for you all to remind me of
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People that post comments on youtube should be jailed as a generality. I've never read a comment string on youtube that didn't make me sad for humanity.
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Do you remember that time that thing happened?
This is a bad thread and you should all feel bad
ShumaGorath wrote:People that post comments on youtube should be jailed as a generality. I've never read a comment string on youtube that didn't make me sad for humanity.
Blackskullandy wrote:Just playing devil's advocate here... That statement seems to assume that the Police are held accountable for every breech in protocol and that no cop ever covers up for another. Which i find hard to believe.
No, it doesn't. It becomes a simple, obvious matter of what is, and what is not recorded on the camera. The cameras are supposed to run for the duration of the shift, and if they suddenly aren't working for the ten minutes in which the dubious arrest was made, then it just doesn't matter that other officers are willing to cover up the issue - there is no footage, and that automatically makes the officer's claims dubious.
None of which matters if their superior is covering their ass... Or asses. 'Technical difficulties' can happen at awfully convenient times.
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Too many cops abuse their power and harass people for no reason. Meanwhile homeless people are fething 50 ft from where I work and nothing is being done about it. It's cool though, give me a fething $200 ticket for having my brights on at 3 in the fething morning when no one is else is even on the damn road.
...You know, the whole time I was in Texas ( Houston) I only had two run ins with any cops and both times they were both pretty decent guys, one was a bit..." cowboyish"...but for the most part neither was as "hardassed" as I expected Texas cops to be....Gulfport Mississippi on the other hand.. 
...I'd sooner run through hell in gasoline soaked underwear than deal with them again.
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