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LordofHats wrote:The USS Constitution. So BA, she's still in the water 200 years later


She's a great ship, makes me wish we in the UK could get HMS Victory sailing again.

The Victory is still on the rolls as an active warship...
AFAIK she's the flagship of the 3rd Lord of the Admiralty...


Yes but sadly not currently seaworthy.

Well no...
Though it's made of wood so it'll probably still float
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Old Ironsides still being in the water is a little bit of a fluke, as she aged extremely well even beyond restoration. I'm sure if the government really wanted to they could make Victory seaworthy again...this is the 21st century after all. It would probably cost more than a modern warship and as a point of pride it's pretty futile.
Victory is the flagship of the 2nd Sea Lord BTW.

Is it the 2nd?
Thanks I do get mixed up sometimes... most of the time...

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Only because the 2nd Lord is now also the head of Home Command...since the 90's.

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Egypt/the Mamelucks were even worse.

His invasion of Russia was even worse than that of Hitler.

Wellington and even Blücher were far better commanders.


If you go to Vilnius there is a milestone with two faces. The west face says that Emperor Bonaparte passed there in 1812 with an army of 400,000 men. On the eastern face it says that Emperor Bonaparte passed back in 1812 with an army of 9,000 men.


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One of the very worst, Confederate General Braxton Bragg.



After the Union's wholesale retreat to Chattanooga after Chickamauga, Forrest and Polk implored Bragg to attack the disorganized Union force with a greatly superior Confederate army still bolstered by the presence of Longstreet's Corps from The Army of Northern Virginia. Bragg refused, and instead decided on a siege which was doomed from the start.

"Perhaps the ultimate cap to the Confederate experience of Chickamauga occurred later in the night of September 20. Polk reported to Bragg that the Federals had fled the field, and a pursuit was needed. According to an aide present, Bragg "could not be induced to look at it in that light, and refused to believe that we had won a victory."

If that wasn't bad enough, a Confederate soldier who had been captured, but escaped, was produced to corroborate the story of the retreating Federal army. Bragg still refused to believe. "Do you know what a retreat looks like?" he snapped at the soldier. Setting the stage for an unforgettable one-liner that was the talk of reunions for years, the Rebel fired back, "I ought to, General; I've been with you during your whole campaign." Bragg's reply was not captured for the record."


This was the exchange that resulted between Forrest and Bragg on Lookout Mountain:

"I have stood your meanness as long as I intend to. You have played the part of a damned scoundrel, and are a coward, and if you were any part of a man I would slap your jaws and force you to resent it.

"You have threatened to arrest me for not obeying you orders promptly. I dare you to do it, and I say that if you ever again try to interfere with me or cross my path, it will be at the peril of your life."

(This quote was told after the war by Forrest's chief surgeon, Dr. J. B. Cowan. Cowan was the only person besides Bragg and Forrest that heard this exchange. Afterwards, Cowan exclaimed to Forrest, "Well, you're in for it now." Forrest replied, "He'll never open his mouth. Unless you or I mention it, this will never be known.")



One of the best for his time: Benedict Arnold, prior to turning traitor. Led from the front, spent his own money to train and equip troops and won some pretty hairy battles. After being seriously wounded at Saratoga and having the credit for the victory stolen by Gen Gates, then got shafted by Congress. Great combat general, but got buttraped by the politicians and turned traitor afterwards. Arnold saved our ass multiple times during the revolution. If he hadn't turned traitor he'd probably be one of our national heros, up there with George Washington



One of the worst of the time: Horatio Gates. Lost every battle he was in command for. Claimed credit for Saratoga while the real hero was in a hospital trying to keep doctors from cutting his leg off. Spent more time hanging out with congress then he did in the field. And was in a perpetual state of butthurt over Washington getting command of the Continental Army and spent the entire war trying to discredit GW and get command.

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Maybe someone mentioned him, maybe not,.... however I have always been pretty impressed with the abilities and skills of General Giap of the NVA.

The man brought two super-powers to defeat with a backwater and rural population witha dream.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vo_Nguyen_Giap

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Easy E wrote:Maybe someone mentioned him, maybe not,.... however I have always been pretty impressed with the abilities and skills of General Giap of the NVA.

The man brought two super-powers to defeat with a backwater and rural population witha dream.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vo_Nguyen_Giap


Yup, he took advantage of America's public, and lack of good military leadership and used it to win the war of public opinion. Also he is 100 years old or so and still alive.
   
 
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