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 LunaHound wrote:

 youbedead wrote:
I was molested as a child by my male babysitter, if you say to my face that it 'destroyed my life' then I will fething break you. When you say that you tell the victim that they are no longer a person, their entire life is now defined by that one event. That they can never be a complete person nor live a normal life. All my hatred goes to people who act as if that singular action is now the entirety of my person, and I hold now ill will to my attacker who I have long since forgiven. I find those who reinforce negative thoughts and feelings to be odious and have a complete misunderstanding of a victims mentality and are doing it solely to make themselves feel better.

Yes because clearly, you = everyone right? I mean half of me want to congratulate how you can overcome and defeat such incident.

But the other half of me just want to rage over the fact that you think just because YOU could, you assume everyone else can.

OT is often so interesting, as interesting as 4chan. Because down to it, its still nothing but a microcosm.

People who were victims of rape or molestation don't starve to death or cross styx in a reed boat so it looks like they aren't "destroyed". I'm sure some are left scarred for their lives, but you can say that about car accidents and fights too. I've been in both, I'm still here. Pretending that humans are frail creatures that cease to exist when something bad happens to them is delusional at best and indicates that you don't look at the world or its history very often. It's also a basic logical fallacy the way you are transferring properties like that.

Also, 4chan has over 22 million unique hits per month. that's larger than a lot of countries. It's 10 times the population of the state of Maine where I grew up. You should probably check somethings size before using the term microcosm.

 ShumaGorath wrote:


Also, 4chan has over 22 million unique hits per month. that's larger than a lot of countries. It's 10 times the population of the state of Maine where I grew up. You should probably check somethings size before using the term microcosm.

Say even if your numbers are accurate, which I doubt, 22,000,000 is still but a small fraction of 6,973,738,433 , in fact only 3%.

Next?

nitpicking/ˈnitˌpikiNG/

Looking for small or unimportant errors or faults, esp. in order to criticize unnecessarily: "a nitpicking legalistic exercise".
Fussy fault-finding: "nitpicking over tiny details".

Can we just say it would have a startling affect upon her psyche, one society finds abhorrent, and move on?

 LunaHound wrote:

 ShumaGorath wrote:


Also, 4chan has over 22 million unique hits per month. that's larger than a lot of countries. It's 10 times the population of the state of Maine where I grew up. You should probably check somethings size before using the term microcosm.

Say even if your numbers are accurate, which I doubt, 22,000,000 is still but a small fraction of 6,973,738,433 , in fact only 3%.

Next?

nitpicking/ˈnitˌpikiNG/

Looking for small or unimportant errors or faults, esp. in order to criticize unnecessarily: "a nitpicking legalistic exercise".
Fussy fault-finding: "nitpicking over tiny details".

As a side note, this thread has taken a rather depressing turn.

 LunaHound wrote:

 ShumaGorath wrote:


Also, 4chan has over 22 million unique hits per month. that's larger than a lot of countries. It's 10 times the population of the state of Maine where I grew up. You should probably check somethings size before using the term microcosm.

Say even if your numbers are accurate, which I doubt, 22,000,000 is still but a small fraction of 6,973,738,433 , in fact only 3%.

Next?

nitpicking/ˈnitˌpikiNG/

Looking for small or unimportant errors or faults, esp. in order to criticize unnecessarily: "a nitpicking legalistic exercise".
Fussy fault-finding: "nitpicking over tiny details".

As opposed to using logical loopholes the size of the moon (clearly another microcosm, its smaller than the earth after all!) and comparisons to online communities you don't like to push some sort of wacky reality where victims of sexual violence cease being human because you feel that they must?

Yeah. Nitpicking. Sure. Whatever.

As a side note, this thread has taken a rather depressing turn.

This thread has started off in freefall with a yellow journalist article about a town of rape defending black people. Nothing about this thread has every been anything but lock worthy.

You honestly don't understand the mindset of a victim, and I don't fault you for it, you can't. But the mindset you are putting forth is destructive to the psyche of a victim. How do you honestly think someone will feel if you tell them that this one thing, which as already caused trauma, has destroyed their life and they can never be normal again.

I understand the natural reaction is outrage at the offender and that you want to demonize them as much as possible but focusing only on the attacker can further scar the victim, you're are telling them that their attacker has ultimate control of their life. When you should be helping them overcome that feeling, you need to make them feel like they have control over their own life and that they are stronger then there attacker.

A person very close and dear to me was a victim of childhood sexual abuse.

She is a functioning member of society and has led a very successful life. But she also carries deep emotional scars 20 years later.

 youbedead wrote:
You honestly don't understand the mindset of a victim, and I don't fault you for it, you can't. But the mindset you are putting forth is destructive to the psyche of a victim. How do you honestly think someone will feel if you tell them that this one thing, which as already caused trauma, has destroyed their life and they can never be normal again.

I understand the natural reaction is outrage at the offender and that you want to demonize them as much as possible but focusing only on the attacker can further scar the victim, you're are telling them that their attacker has ultimate control of their life. When you should be helping them overcome that feeling, you need to make them feel like they have control over their own life and that they are stronger then there attacker.

how about if you put their attackers against the wall and fill them with hollowpoints?

 Frazzled wrote:

 youbedead wrote:
You honestly don't understand the mindset of a victim, and I don't fault you for it, you can't. But the mindset you are putting forth is destructive to the psyche of a victim. How do you honestly think someone will feel if you tell them that this one thing, which as already caused trauma, has destroyed their life and they can never be normal again.

I understand the natural reaction is outrage at the offender and that you want to demonize them as much as possible but focusing only on the attacker can further scar the victim, you're are telling them that their attacker has ultimate control of their life. When you should be helping them overcome that feeling, you need to make them feel like they have control over their own life and that they are stronger then there attacker.

how about if you put their attackers against the wall and fill them with hollowpoints?

How would killing the attackers make you better than them?

 Cheesecat wrote:

 Frazzled wrote:

 youbedead wrote:
You honestly don't understand the mindset of a victim, and I don't fault you for it, you can't. But the mindset you are putting forth is destructive to the psyche of a victim. How do you honestly think someone will feel if you tell them that this one thing, which as already caused trauma, has destroyed their life and they can never be normal again.

I understand the natural reaction is outrage at the offender and that you want to demonize them as much as possible but focusing only on the attacker can further scar the victim, you're are telling them that their attacker has ultimate control of their life. When you should be helping them overcome that feeling, you need to make them feel like they have control over their own life and that they are stronger then there attacker.

how about if you put their attackers against the wall and fill them with hollowpoints?

How would killing the attackers make you better than them?

Well an atheist would say they wouldn't be feeling much of anything.

Throw them in the Gulag....wait this is the US...throw them in the FEMA camps....