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 Mr Morden wrote:
Also Living Metal does not repair any and all damage or effects. It degrades steadily over time and if overwhelmed and unable to cope tries to port out and if fails - destroys itself. It is no way infallible or indestructible as you seem to think as noted throughout the Codex. Remember even the vaunted Cadian Gate pylons began to disintegrate and fracture under the assault of the warp (p11 Codex: Eye of Terror)

No, you are underestemating its repair abilities. Holding onto the fail safe of the fail safe for their repair protocals does not limit living metal's abilities. But rather shows that the Necrons have planned for events that are the extreme of what you can imagine to defeat them.

There have been fluff quotes demonstrating that the corrupting effects warp has no effect on living metal. Untill you can actually provide any proof other then "The Necrons have layers of fail safes that sometimes can come into play". Your argument is entirely baseless.

There is a single quote from the FFG book that states this which I had not theard before this thread - which does not invalidate it at all but just raised more questions for me about why its vulnerable to direct damage but not mutation caused by Psykers. Again how does the Necron material work against direct Psyker based effects?

Your keep misreading the information in the actual codex where its very clear that Living Metal is not infaliable at all.

FACT- It degrades steadily over time
FACT It can only cope with a specific amount of damage before its overwhelmed and either destroyed, sefl destructs or is teleported back to been repaired or reduced to energy to provide raw materials.

 Mr Morden wrote:
There is a single quote from the FFG book that states this which I had not theard before this thread - which does not invalidate it at all but just raised more questions for me about why its vulnerable to direct damage but not mutation caused by Psykers. Again how does the Necron material work against direct Psyker based effects?

Your keep misreading the information in the actual codex where its very clear that Living Metal is not infaliable at all.

FACT- It degrades steadily over time
FACT It can only cope with a specific amount of damage before its overwhelmed and either destroyed, sefl destructs or is teleported back to been repaired or reduced to energy to provide raw materials.

Because there is a difference between being unscathed from a bolt of lightning or remaining completely intact from a telekinetic bullet, than there is actually trying to merge the essence of the Warp with it and mutate it. This isn't exactly rocket science, nor is there a contradiction, but hey keep pretending there is.

Neither of those two facts are evidence that the Warp can mutate Living Metal, but hey, go ahead and keep pretending they are.

I have misread nothing, I understand perfectly.

I was actually responding to Stonerhino who I feel overstimates the awesomeness of Necrons repair ability.

What I was asking was if the quote is correct what is it about Necron material that makes it so impervious to Choas influence but not direct psychic assault when a Blank would be immune to both? Does the FFG book go into any more detail about this and how it works?

 Mr Morden wrote:
I was actually responding to Stonerhino who I feel overstimates the awesomeness of Necrons repair ability.

What I was asking was if the quote is correct what is it about Necron material that makes it so impervious to Choas influence but not direct psychic assault when a Blank would be immune to both? Does the FFG book go into any more detail about this and how it works?

Not really, even by its base mechanics and stats for it's own necrons they are still able to be corrupted and mutated somehow.

 Mr Morden wrote:
I was actually responding to Stonerhino who I feel overstimates the awesomeness of Necrons repair ability.

Not at all. According to Black Crusade Necrons will eventually heal any type of damage unless it is slain. Even then there is an optional rule that allows them to stand back up even if slain. With very few exceptions they get teleported away instead. It is only when they are 1 slain, 2 fail to teleport and 3 are at risk of being captured by the enemy do they self destruct per the codex.

 Mr Morden wrote:
What I was asking was if the quote is correct what is it about Necron material that makes it so impervious to Choas influence but not direct psychic assault when a Blank would be immune to both? Does the FFG book go into any more detail about this and how it works?

Its really just an effect of hand waving saying that "Necron technology is advanced beyond what we can imagine". I think its easiest to just lump it together with their repair protocals. In that that corruption would be seen as damage and repaired away. At the very worst teleported to a stasis chamber untill the resources could be allocated to repair it.






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 ZebioLizard2 wrote:
Not really, even by its base mechanics and stats for it's own necrons they are still able to be corrupted and mutated somehow.

Not really. In Death Watch the Outer Reach. There is a story of the "Bloody Prince" who becomes a destroyer. His body reshapes to fit this new role. The Flayer curse likely works the same. The body changes to match the mind controlling it.

Not really. In Death Watch the Outer Reach. There is a story of the "Bloody Prince" who becomes a destroyer. His body reshapes to fit this new role. The Flayer curse likely works the same. The body changes to match the mind controlling it.

By mechanics I mean actual gameplay from within Black Crusade's supplement The Tome Of Fate.

The necrons have nothing that prevent corruption or mutation.

 Void__Dragon wrote:

MarsNZ wrote:
Lets make them invincible to everything

Prove this statement.

and they never die

Prove this statement.

but if they die they can get back up

Obviously, but they can also die for good.

and psychic stuff won't hurt them et al,

Prove this statement.

This entire thread is the proof of these statements.

I am totally down with an undead robot army in 40k, I like the idea. But why can't they just be incredibly hard to destroy and have a strong resistance to the warp while still being able to be destroyed and corrupted? Sure, they're tough and that makes them a huge threat, just as all the Xenos are potentially the final threat to the Imperium. But why do so many in this thread feel the need for them to be able to repair everything?