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greatergoodjones wrote:

 loreweaver wrote:
Abandon, you are wrong.

Walkers get locked in combat. You can't assault a walker you can't hurt. The rules as written are clear, your grasp of language isn't.

As I said in your other ridiculous thread, no TO would agree with your interpretation. If someone tried this against me in a friendly game, I'd pickup my models and walk.

The bigger question, I guess is, do you actually play or enjoy 40k? I don't think you do.

So, if in a friendly game, someone suggested that they think they can assault your walker for the reason given above, rather then disagreeing and resolving the issue with a die roll, or asking the store manager for how they want it to be played in that game store, you would pick up your models and walk away.

The reason given above breaks the rule about not being able to charge a vehicle you can not hurt. Therefore can not be the correct interpretation.

I would not walk, but I would explain to my opponent why his action was not legal.

I would not settle it with a die roll as the rules are clear.

I'd be happy to go along with the idea my Hormagaunts can't charge your walker in an actual game and whatever the house rules are as well(assuming nothing unfair). As I said, it is a valid way to read to rule, it's just not the only way it can be taken. I would then explain that walkers 'can be locked in combat' but 'enemy units in base contact a vehicles are not' and show you why.

and then we default to the rules on Page 23 that state "Units that have one or more models in base contact with enemies are locked in combat."

Your unit is definitely locked in combat.

The Vehicle rules are what prevents vehicles from being locked in combat. Which is in turn over-ridden by the walker rules that state they can be locked.

 Abandon wrote:
I'd be happy to go along with the idea my Hormagaunts can't charge your walker in an actual game and whatever the house rules are as well(assuming nothing unfair).

This implies that gaunts not being able to charge a walker is a house rule, it is not a house rule it is RAW.

Playing by the actual rules are not house rules, no matter how many times you try to assert otherwise Abandon.

 DeathReaper wrote:
and then we default to the rules on Page 23 that state "Units that have one or more models in base contact with enemies are locked in combat."

Your unit is definitely locked in combat.

The Vehicle rules are what prevents vehicles from being locked in combat. Which is in turn over-ridden by the walker rules that state they can be locked.

 Abandon wrote:
I'd be happy to go along with the idea my Hormagaunts can't charge your walker in an actual game and whatever the house rules are as well(assuming nothing unfair).

This implies that gaunts not being able to charge a walker is a house rule, it is not a house rule it is RAW.

Playing by the actual rules are not house rules, no matter how many times you try to assert otherwise Abandon.

That rule is overridden by the more specific vehicle rule "Enemy models that are in base contact with a vehicle are not locked in combat" on page 76, Successive Turns.

I was just clarifying that I'm actually fairly flexible when it comes to playing. That's why I used to words 'and whatever house rules' meaning, 'in addition to'.

 DeathReaper wrote:

greatergoodjones wrote:

 loreweaver wrote:
Abandon, you are wrong.

Walkers get locked in combat. You can't assault a walker you can't hurt. The rules as written are clear, your grasp of language isn't.

As I said in your other ridiculous thread, no TO would agree with your interpretation. If someone tried this against me in a friendly game, I'd pickup my models and walk.

The bigger question, I guess is, do you actually play or enjoy 40k? I don't think you do.

So, if in a friendly game, someone suggested that they think they can assault your walker for the reason given above, rather then disagreeing and resolving the issue with a die roll, or asking the store manager for how they want it to be played in that game store, you would pick up your models and walk away.

The reason given above breaks the rule about not being able to charge a vehicle you can not hurt. Therefore can not be the correct interpretation.

I would not walk, but I would explain to my opponent why his action was not legal.

I would not settle it with a die roll as the rules are clear.

And if counter with why he believed it was, and you both rejected each others arguments, how would you move forward?

I think we've gone around in circles here for long enough. Moving on.