Fantasy vs. 40K

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**mrfantastical**

Dakkamite wrote:
Charles Rampant wrote:

Why hello. I started Fantasy about a year and a half ago, looking for variety from my 40k Orks. I now basically never play 40k, as I find it just too distressing to lose all my models before I can make assault. Maybe the upcoming codex will let me swarm into the enemy deployment zone as before, but I have a bad feeling about it.

So, Fantasy! Fantasy!

This bodes well, because I'm looking to ditch 40k for the exact same reason. Stupid shooty lists blow my boys apart before I can bash heads together, and the only way to survive against them is to use lame stuff that if I'd wanted to use in the first place, I wouldn't have taken Orks to do so

I see from your batrep link you run Tomb Kings. What drew you to them? I'm just interested to see how someone in my exact situation responded and what they picked for what reason. I've been looking at Greenskins for obvious reasons but not sure if they're as 'fun' as the ones in 40k. Alternatively, Khorne daemons but they seem to only have one thing going for them (a cannon of all things, screw that)

We also use heavy comp around here, so alot of those problems you mentioned are not really an issue. I'm starting to get excited here =P

Firstly, does the game just not work at low points levels? People fall all over themselves to play at 1850 points in 40k, which is where you start maxing out your FOC (or, at least, using most of it), and basically cramming the board so full of models that the game becomes line-up-and-shoot. The thing for 40k, though, is that it scales down very, very well. We had a 250 point league for awhile with just a couple of little rule tweaks (provided in the rulebook, actually) for that points level and it was brilliant. It actually felt a lot more tactical. Actually, it felt a lot like airsoft or paintball. You and a dozen guys against them and a dozen guys in a huge area.

Seriously man its like your reading my mind. I've been approached by the club pres to possibly run a tournament next year and I might implement this

So I too was an 40k Ork player that jumped into fantasy when Grey Nights codex came out. I jumped into Ogres and haven't looked back. Ogres BTW play very much like 40k Orks, walk forward and punch in the face. Funny thing is some of the Ogre units have some very similar Ork equivalents:

Leadbelchers = Lootaz
Ogre unit = Nobz
Ironguts = MegaNobz / PowerKlaw Nobz
Ironblasters = Boom Gun looted wagon
Gnoblars = gretchin
Mournfang Cavarly = deffrolla Battlewagon
Gorger/Maneaters = snikrott/kommandos
Tyrant = Warboss
Sabretusk = single scouting deffkopta

Ofcourse these units don't play exactly as their 40k counterpart, but there are similarities that I picked up on immediately.

Currently I'm playing my second army (High Elves), and will probably jump into a 3rd army soon.

**Peasant**

The Shadow wrote:

I could do the exact same thing, but the other way round. Providing detailed descriptions for Fantasy Fluff and short, sarcastic, taking-the-mick for 40k Fluff, and make the Fantasy background look far better. I can't really vouch much for the WoC or Bretonnian lore, but the Elven background has a lot more to it that "who wears the shiny hat". I take your "Canada" jibe though, surely it can't have hurt GW to put a little bit more imagination into the map of the Warhammer World.

**bu11etmagn3tt**

kazian wrote:
A discussion with a friend has me contemplating trying my hand at fantasy. I've always liked the fluff quite a bit, but my tabletop experience is pretty well exclusive to the current edition of 40k.

If there's anyone out there with experience with both, how do they compare in terms of rules, gameplay experience, etc?

Played both since the 90's. Fantasy is by far more complicated (in a good way), and challenging! I am kinda bored with 40k....