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I don't tend to watch much TV at all, but there are a few shows I really don't get.

The Big Bang theory just isn't funny.

Elementary will never be as good as Sherlock, so why bother?

The Walking Dead is now on its 4th series. I've never watched it, but 4 series seems to be a bit too much milage out of 'zombie apocalypse', Then again, I'm not a fan of zombie stuff in general.

I also spent many years insisting that Red Dwarf was crap. I then watched it almost by accident (I was looking for Hitchhiker's Guide on Youtube, saw it was taken down, and so went for another sci-fi comedy) and realised it is amazing. In the last 2 weeks, I've watched all bar 8 episodes.

 Leigen_Zero wrote:

 Ahtman wrote:

 Platuan4th wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
I disliked disliking things befoer you disliked it.

*adjusts vest, goes back to tapping away on his iPad whilst sipping stupidly overpriced coffee*

*monocle pop*

*tips fedora*

*stops to pull incredibly tight jeans out of buttcrack*

Ipad? pfffft! You guys aren't true hipsters if your using mainstream technologies, the real hipsters use retro tech to write their poems when enjoying thier decaf soy milk latte with pumpkin spice and vanilla

*strokes handlebar mustache in amusement*

 Paradigm wrote:


Elementary will never be as good as Sherlock, so why bother?

That's another one: Sherlock. I absolutely do not like that show at all. The lead character is utterly unlikeable, and not nearly as smart as he likes to think he is. Elementary isn't terrible, in contrast. I'm not a fan, and I think it's far too American for a Holmes adaptation, but at least they try to mix things up a little (their handling of Moriarty being a case in point).

 Paradigm wrote:
I also spent many years insisting that Red Dwarf was crap.

I nearly had a stroke when I read that. I didn't think it was possible for someone to not like Red Dwarf.

squidhills wrote:


I nearly had a stroke when I read that. I didn't think it was possible for someone to not like Red Dwarf.

::raises hand way up high::

I gradually grew to hate the LOTR movies - things I didn't like just kept piling up; I was reasonable happy with the first one. T
he second one started annoying me (Why are wargs suddenly giant hyenas with Downs syndrome? Why change the Entmoot like that? Do we really need Elves at the Hornburg? Why are Uruk Hai magically repelled by horses? Who the hell pulls a cavalry charge down a slope that steep onto a line of heavily armored pikes?)

And the third one.... welp, thanks for showing up and fighting those hundred foot tall elephants, Rohan, but everything you did was just rendered completely irrelevant by a glowing green tide of deus ex machina.

Shoulda just taken the day off, had a late breakfast and hung out, you'd have had a few thousand more dudes to charge at the black gate yelling before the ground perfectly splits apart to swallow the armies of Mordor after that evil lighthouse collapsed.

squidhills wrote:

 Paradigm wrote:
I also spent many years insisting that Red Dwarf was crap.

I nearly had a stroke when I read that. I didn't think it was possible for someone to not like Red Dwarf.

I hated it until I actually watched it... then the error of my ways became very apparent.

Pretty straightforward ones for me, already mentioned I'm sure.

I don't understand the appeal of Family Guy given its very lazy and repetitive attempts at humour mixed in with crappy animation. Similarly, stuff like CSI when they over exaggerate murder and the whole DNA evidence crap. It's especially formulaic and boring since you know they'll catch someone in the end. The David Caruso sunglasses meme was the only good thing to come out of that show.

Also I don't get the hype around Frozen recently, am I the only one who preferred Disney's hand-drawn animation? The plot wasn't anything spectacular and there are some plot holes surrounding the sister's upbringing (only Elsa as far as I remember had to be isolated, her sister was never restricted in leaving the castle). Is it just because the song "let it go" got stuck in people's heads? I didn't find that song to be good either.

 Grimskul wrote:
Also I don't get the hype around Frozen recently, am I the only one who preferred Disney's hand-drawn animation? The plot wasn't anything spectacular and there are some plot holes surrounding the sister's upbringing (only Elsa as far as I remember had to be isolated, her sister was never restricted in leaving the castle). Is it just because the song "let it go" got stuck in people's heads? I didn't find that song to be good either.

Elsa wasn't isolated to her room, that was more of a self-imposed isolation because her parents convinced her she would hurt her sister. Keep in mind their parents did close the castle gates and reduce the staff (their dad explains that during the scene with the trolls in the beginning) to limit the girls' interaction with other people. They both were confined to the castle grounds and Elsa chose to further isolate herself.

I also enjoy traditional animation but the technique has its limitations and not everything the film makers want to do can be conveyed in traditional animation (especially when it comes to depth). Also, films like Frozen and Tangled employ both CGI and hand-drawn animation. Personally, I found the animation in Frozen to be absolutely gorgeous. You're also the only person I've heard describe "Let It Go" as "not good;" Idina Menzel has a fantastic voice (not a fan of the Demi Lovato version though)!

As far as what I don't like, that is most of "popular" television on the major networks. The only exception to that is some of the Fox sitcoms; my wife and I watch Brooklyn Nine-Nine (which I find hilarious), The Mindy Project (didn't watch it at first but have since come around to), and New Girl, which are all on Tuesday night. However, this past season of New Girl has declined in quality compared to the first two seasons so I don't know if I really keep watching it.

I wife likes some of the worst drivel ever produced, which is all those terrible Lifetime Network shows (Army Wives, The Client List, Drop Dead Diva, etc.) and "The Bachelor." I had proudly never watched a minute of that show until a few weeks ago. She was watching one of the recent episodes and I came up from downstairs and sat down on the couch to show her something I had just finished painting. I paused for a moment to take in how horrible that show is and said, "You know, this show is the reason the terrorists hate us," and I walked back downstairs.

im a 14 year old boy and even I enjoyed frozen. the comedy was well thought out, the animation "nice" and, although I don't have any appreciation of music out side of "loved the way you lie" and similarly themed, I found "let it go" to be good, in some ways. 2 broke girls isn't bad, and the bachelor was clearly created by evil nazi space lizards.

Frozen was horrible. Obviously released so they could make it into a broadway musical later and rake it in. The only funny parts were in the previews, the snowman thing was a sidebar in the movie when it had top billing in the previews.

Bait And Switch.

They really should put warning labels on previews to let you know it's a musical. As soon as the first contrived song was being belted out my wife and I looked at each other and groaned.

Well, it is a Disney film. I thought Frozen was so widely recognized for taking shots at the typical romance story line in favor of a tale of sisterly love, and learning to use even the talents you find embarrassing.

I enjoyed it for Elsa- a reluctant villain is an idea that isn't used enough in films. Actually, I'm not certain she falls into any archetypal movie role, and I love seeing characters like that.

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Frozen was horrible. Obviously released so they could make it into a broadway musical later and rake it in. The only funny parts were in the previews, the snowman thing was a sidebar in the movie when it had top billing in the previews.

Bait And Switch.

They really should put warning labels on previews to let you know it's a musical. As soon as the first contrived song was being belted out my wife and I looked at each other and groaned.

This is either the worst attempt at trolling or you have never seen any of the other 52 Disney animated feature films, especially considering just about every Disney film since The Little Mermaid in 1989 has been a full on musical.

Loathe Dexter, could not get into it whatsoever.
Thought it swung between comical moments and extremely dark and just didnt gel the two.

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Frozen was horrible. Obviously released so they could make it into a broadway musical later and rake it in. The only funny parts were in the previews, the snowman thing was a sidebar in the movie when it had top billing in the previews.

Bait And Switch.

They really should put warning labels on previews to let you know it's a musical. As soon as the first contrived song was being belted out my wife and I looked at each other and groaned.

This is either the worst attempt at trolling or you have never seen any of the other 52 Disney animated feature films, especially considering just about every Disney film since The Little Mermaid in 1989 has been a full on musical.

To be fair, Disney make a lot of films which aren't musicals.

Yeah, but if we narrow it down to animated children's films it becomes obvious.

I wouldn't count any of the films made by Disney's many many sub-companies.

 -Shrike- wrote:

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Frozen was horrible. Obviously released so they could make it into a broadway musical later and rake it in. The only funny parts were in the previews, the snowman thing was a sidebar in the movie when it had top billing in the previews.

Bait And Switch.

They really should put warning labels on previews to let you know it's a musical. As soon as the first contrived song was being belted out my wife and I looked at each other and groaned.

This is either the worst attempt at trolling or you have never seen any of the other 52 Disney animated feature films, especially considering just about every Disney film since The Little Mermaid in 1989 has been a full on musical.

To be fair, Disney make a lot of films which aren't musicals.

Notice that I was being specific when I said "Disney animated feature," most of which have been musicals.

I really did not enjoy because (IMV):

the new Batman films - over long, poorly written, no humour or real characterisation, terrible plots.

Inception - no substance - just flashy effects, no actual human characters - tedious little film.

The recent BBC Sherlock series - I quite enjoyed it at first then they brough on their version of Moriarty - a shouty idoiot- I could only stomach a couple of epsodes of this travesty. Compare with themuch better recent films - Especially Moriarity.

 Mr Morden wrote:
I really did not enjoy because (IMV):

the new Batman films - over long, poorly written, no humour or real characterisation, terrible plots.

Really? I think those films were perfectly paced, with excellent characters and great plots. And there was a healthy dose of humour in places as well.

The recent BBC Sherlock series - I quite enjoyed it at first then they brough on their version of Moriarty - a shouty idoiot- I could only stomach a couple of epsodes of this travesty. Compare with themuch better recent films - Especially Moriarity.

Again, I disagree. I thought the TV version on Moriarty really took the unhinged madman aspect of the character really well, and I hated the film version (then again, I hated that second film, loved the first one. Second one was too much James Bond and not enough Sherlock Holmes)

 Paradigm wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
I really did not enjoy because (IMV):

the new Batman films - over long, poorly written, no humour or real characterisation, terrible plots.

Really? I think those films were perfectly paced, with excellent characters and great plots. And there was a healthy dose of humour in places as well.

The recent BBC Sherlock series - I quite enjoyed it at first then they brough on their version of Moriarty - a shouty idoiot- I could only stomach a couple of epsodes of this travesty. Compare with themuch better recent films - Especially Moriarity.

Again, I disagree. I thought the TV version on Moriarty really took the unhinged madman aspect of the character really well, and I hated the film version (then again, I hated that second film, loved the first one. Second one was too much James Bond and not enough Sherlock Holmes)

Then lets agree to disagree - for instance I can't remember a single humerous moment in the 2nd Batman film and no one in either I gave a damn about ( I couldn;t be bothered to watch the third) ? Compared with the genius of Avengers and Thor 2 they are veyr very very very poor. In terms of pacing - they are horible - the 2nd one in particular lurches drunkenly from set peice to set piece and wastes an extra half an hour on the whole 2 face bit which should have been in another film.

For me Moriarity in the film was a brilliant and twisted man who saw Holmes as nothing more than a minor annoyance, rather than a madman who just shouted a lot.....

The Avengers: It's not that I didn't like it it's just that I'd heard so much about it and how it was amazing, so when I was done it just felt like a bit of a let down.

The Walking Dead: When the second half of seasons 4 started I realised that I was only watching it for the sake of watching it and for what the first season was. I get that it's set in a universe where they don't know about zombies, but after a couple of years you'd think that they realise to stop being stupid around zombies.

Scrubs: I don't really have a reason for not liking it there's just something about it that bores the hell out of me.

Scott Pilgram: Do I really need a reason.

 gianlucafiorentini123 wrote:
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Scott Pilgram: Do I really need a reason.

No, but you do need a spellchecker

 Grimskul wrote:

I don't understand the appeal of Family Guy given its very lazy and repetitive attempts at humour mixed in with crappy animation. Similarly, stuff like CSI when they over exaggerate murder and the whole DNA evidence crap. It's especially formulaic and boring since you know they'll catch someone in the end. The David Caruso sunglasses meme was the only good thing to come out of that show.

Funny thing is, my mom got a summons for jury duty, and one of the questions that was asked to the whole group was "does anyone here watch CSI on a fairly regular basis?" She was promptly excused and thanked for her time when she said she did watch the show

I get why people don't like the LotR books, Tolkien is wordy and takes a while to get to the point. Its hard to find the excellently written bits but when they crop up they're quite nice. However yeah the Fellowship of the Ring takes forever to get to the point. The next two book are a lot better.

For the movies, I'm just glad that someone was a big enough fan to put my favorite series onto film, I wouldn't have cared if it was crap (well, that's not quite true, look at The Last Airbender), but they weren't crap. Even if you dislike the changes you have to respect the technical innovations and the work put in by the art department in making the world "come alive". I could have done without the elves at the Hornburg or Legolas being a Mary Sue. That got on my nerves.

"Ok Peter, we get you like elves, but this story is supposed to be about the smallest of people making the biggest differences, not elves skateboarding on shields."

 EmilCrane wrote:
I get why people don't like the LotR books

That is ok, I don't get why people don't like the movies.

 EmilCrane wrote:
Mary Sue

I don't think Legolas is an idealized stand in for Peter Jackson or Fran Walsh, which is what a Mary Sue is.

I don't think he was over the top enough to be Marty Stu either.

Legolas and Gimli were semi-serious comic relief without breaking the vibe of the movies.

Mary Sue/Marty Stu are idealized author inserts, not just over the top characters.

"Greya Templara was assigned to the Enterprise after both getting perfect scores on the Graduate Exit Exam and defeating four Klingons in melee unarmed combat, and was selected by Admiral Picard to serve as second in command to Captain Riker."

Family Guy, American Dad, pretty much any of that vein of US animation is terrible.

Can't quite put my finger on it, just find it lacking anything actually funny.

I miss Futurama already!

Any three-and-half hour film bores the hell out of me, anything of that length is usually massively overwritten and/or pretentious. Or has a lot of filler.

Only exception is book adaptations that actually need the time to tell the story.

I'm unsure about the walking dead, haven't watched the second half of season 4 so far and don't know if I'll bother. It's quite a depressing show and I don't really need that in my life right now.

 Grey Templar wrote:
I don't think he was over the top enough to be Marty Stu either.

Legolas and Gimli were semi-serious comic relief without breaking the vibe of the movies.

I just got sick of Legolas doing something ridiculous and over the top every fight scene, its not cool, its overdone and boring.

Peter Jackson made a story about Men and Hobbits become about elves and how awesome he thinks they are. I still like the movies, I just don't like that aspect of them. The books were much better in that regard.

I guess you could call me a hibster when it comes to the superhero movies. Most of ones that comic fans and others hate (the X-Men movies) I actually rather enjoyed, but the ones my friends where drooling over (The Avengers) left me unimpressed.

I generally don't care for any superhero that isn't human. I just lack any connection to the character. I mean watching the Thor movies I found myself not really caring if Thor "won".

Edit: Also the Captain American was terrible and couldn't care less about the second one.

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 Mr Morden wrote:

Then lets agree to disagree - for instance I can't remember a single humerous moment in the 2nd Batman film and no one in either I gave a damn about ( I couldn;t be bothered to watch the third) ? Compared with the genius of Avengers and Thor 2 they are veyr very very very poor. In terms of pacing - they are horible - the 2nd one in particular lurches drunkenly from set peice to set piece and wastes an extra half an hour on the whole 2 face bit which should have been in another film.

Yea I very much disagree with you as well. Avengers, even with all its action scenes, was kinda boring. I went to see it with a bunch of comic fans who thought it was the best thing since sliced bread, but I was left honestly with a response of "meh". It was one of those movies that is "fun" but overall forgettable. Thor 2 (didn't like the first one either) was one of those movies that by the end I was rooting for Malekith and Loki to win. If by the end I am rooting for the villains than that is a good sign that the movie sucks. On the other hand I loved the Dark Knight. Heath Ledger's portrayal of the Joker was excellent. I was really saddened to hear when he died.

 -Shrike- wrote:

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:

 SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Frozen was horrible. Obviously released so they could make it into a broadway musical later and rake it in. The only funny parts were in the previews, the snowman thing was a sidebar in the movie when it had top billing in the previews.

Bait And Switch.

They really should put warning labels on previews to let you know it's a musical. As soon as the first contrived song was being belted out my wife and I looked at each other and groaned.

This is either the worst attempt at trolling or you have never seen any of the other 52 Disney animated feature films, especially considering just about every Disney film since The Little Mermaid in 1989 has been a full on musical.

To be fair, Disney make a lot of films which aren't musicals.

There are plenty of Disney movies that are not musicals. But somebody must have had a very sheltered life if they cannot look at the poster or preview for a Disney Princess/Prince Movie(tm) and realize that any Disney Princess/Prince Movie(tm) is basically just Disney Broadway Musical - The Movie(tm) and that you can expect lots of musical numbers and singing with lots of fancy outfits that you can purchase for your children at the Disney Store for the low low price of $99.