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TIE Punisher preview is up!

https://www.fantasyflightgames.com/en/news/2015/7/6/obliterate-your-enemies/

Nothing there gets the blood pumping. I don't have a Defender, which is the most obvious choice for the Mk2 engine. An advanced could possibly make good use of it, but I'm likely to be flying Vader who wants the Engine Upgrade or Juno who can mitigate the white banks with her ability anyway.

I'm yet to be convinced secondaries are worthwhile, so I might steer clear of this one for now... disappointing. Although at least the Raider is getting close, so I've got something to look forward to!

Deathrain looks like fun. Shooting bombs forwards should open up some shenanigans.

Ion Engines look Okay. Not bad, but not good either. They'll probably be a good filler option on a Vanilla or Advanced TIE, but the main problem is that pretty much every other TIE wants a different Modification. Interceptor and Punisher want Autothrusters, Advanced Aces want Engine upgrade, Defender really wants to have these and Engine upgrade, Phantom wants ACD, and so on. Normal bombers and Defenders are probably the only guys who really want this, but I'm not sure that it is enough to make me want them.

Interceptors can have TIE and Autothrusters with the Title.

I like the Hound's Tooth, the rest is meh.

Since the X-Wing blisters all went up by 3-4 bucks, I haven't bought any. Shame, since I can actually find a ship or two I want now like some Y-Wings and A-Wings which were impossible to find a year ago.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Interceptors can have TIE and Autothrusters with the Title.

They only have one bank to turn as well, whereas they can really benefit from Stealth or Targeting computer.

 Azreal13 wrote:
Interceptors can have TIE and Autothrusters with the Title.

Yeah, but why would you? It (literally) only adds a couple of green to an already very green capable ship, and if you're building a list around Fel (or maybe Jax) then you'll really either want Stealth Device, Shield Upgrade or Targeting Computer alongside your Autothrusters, points be damned.

It's a decent filler I guess if you've got a weaker ship that can use it and you're not too concerned with an Initiative bid, but it's not a card I'd run out to buy the blister for (not that we enforce card ownership locally anyway).

I never said you should take TIE on Interceptors, I was just pointing out you could without necessarily sacrificing a higher priority mod.

It wouldn't be utterly useless on Fel, more greens means more options after PTL, but I agree it isn't optimal.

 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:
Deathrain looks like fun. Shooting bombs forwards should open up some shenanigans.

Yeah, once you consider advanced sensors there's really nowhere to hide from bombs now. Front or back, before or after boost, drop before revealing your dial or drop as an action. The only question is whether you'll be able to keep such an obvious priority target alive long enough to make good use of those bombs. If you can it does a really good job of countering multiple strategies at once and opening up a lot more flexibility for the rest of your list. Jousting lists hate proton bombs in the middle of their formation, while elite lists hate getting their ace trapped in a conner net with no chance to avoid it.

I like the idea over on Boardgamegeek where they were thinking of ideas to fix secondaries. Because a drastic change would be hard, one of the simple ideas was that when you spend the Target Lock to fire a torpedo, missile, etc, you also get the benefit from the Target Lock, making them slightly better.

 AegisGrimm wrote:
I like the idea over on Boardgamegeek where they were thinking of ideas to fix secondaries. Because a drastic change would be hard, one of the simple ideas was that when you spend the Target Lock to fire a torpedo, missile, etc, you also get the benefit from the Target Lock, making them slightly better.

Seems solid to me. Just make the spending of the token mandatory even if you don't re-roll to maintain the perks of those few missiles that don't automatically spend their token. The only thing is that in my experience, the reason ordnance is a waste on low pilot skill pilots is that they can't get locks in the first place because their targets aren't in range 3 yet when they are taking their action.

Latest article on FF's site reveals the final pilot for the YV-666. Can't say I'm too impressed:


I also strongly disagree that Wave VII puts scum fleets on par with Rebel or Imperial fleets. Not even close, considering some of the best toys that Scum got before Glitterstim were available to everyone (BTL title, Autothrusters) and actually used far more efficiently by those fleets (Autothrusters doing far more for Imperial fleets that they do for Scum fleets, for instance.)

It's also more than a little obnoxious that they repeatedly sperg themselves over the "glorious arc" of the YV-666, meanwhile both imperials and rebel fleets have at least 1 ship with a full on turret while scum still don't have one.

Its solid maneuverability, access to the "0" maneuver, and its glorious arc mean that the YV-666 offers the Scum access to a new set of tactical possibilities that are wholly their own.

This kind of crap.

 streamdragon wrote:
It's also more than a little obnoxious that they repeatedly sperg themselves over the "glorious arc" of the YV-666, meanwhile both imperials and rebel fleets have at least 1 ship with a full on turret while scum still don't have one.

Good.

Scum isn't Rebels or Imperials and frankly, I'm glad they don't have a turreted ship. Playing a turreted ship against Autothruster squints sucks so having a large 180 degree front firing arc with a ship that can stay in one place is pretty interesting.

Its solid maneuverability, access to the "0" maneuver, and its glorious arc mean that the YV-666 offers the Scum access to a new set of tactical possibilities that are wholly their own.

This kind of crap.

I disagree. FFG is correct, there is no other ship in the game with the "0" maneuver and a 180 degree front firing arc. Personally, I think Eval is the most interesting YV-666 pilot (though Bossk is pretty cool as well). You can fun a fairly loaded Moralo Eval with 4 Binarye Pirates backing him up. Drop one of the Z-95s and you add even more goodies to him.

I do not have a problem with the pilots or the rules, it is the ship that I am not a fan of. Just the tail and engine section really. I will buy one and maybe do some converting to bulk that the hell up. Looks to flimsy to me.

So, my thoughts from what we've seen so far:

K-Wing: Probably the ship I'm most excited for, because it looks like it has the most ways to play (Bomber, mini turret ship, etc.) as well as coming with a lot of upgrades which are useful (Twin Laser Turret +R3-A2, Munitions upgrade, new ordinance).

Kiraxz: Boring, but I know I have several good scum lists which have a 20-point hole after I buy their main core, and this ship looks like it'll fill that gap better than any other option we have right now.

Punisher: Looks like it'll have a couple niche builds, but it's options seem limited when compared to the K-wing.

666: Meh, I think I'll stick with the Firespray.

 Nicorex wrote:
I do not have a problem with the pilots or the rules, it is the ship that I am not a fan of. Just the tail and engine section really. I will buy one and maybe do some converting to bulk that the hell up. Looks to flimsy to me.

I've said several times it looks like someone attached a rocket to the back of a sandcrawler and thought it would be cool to fly it. I guess the dune-jumping jawas got a little too bored and went JATO rocket.

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Seems like the Hounds Tooth should be bigger...seeing as how a Z-95 is supposed to be in it.