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 djones520 wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Results from The Guardian for a search of Christian Abortion Clinic Attack.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?as_q=Christian+abortion+clinic+attack&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=www.theguardian.com&as_occt=any&safe=active&as_filetype=&as_rights=

Well... those are certainly some interesting articles.

How did Swedish sexual assaults end up here though?

There was discussion about the massive amounts of incorrect information being peddled to the outside world regarding immigrants/Muslims being responsible for the spike in sexual assaults.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Results from The Guardian for a search of Christian Abortion Clinic Attack.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?as_q=Christian+abortion+clinic+attack&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_nlo=&as_nhi=&lr=&cr=&as_qdr=all&as_sitesearch=www.theguardian.com&as_occt=any&safe=active&as_filetype=&as_rights=

Fair enough. When I was reading a few news articles about it at the time none of them would mention how he was a "born again Christian", it was usually some form of mental illness that was blamed.

We are all subject to cognitive biases that mean we tend to seek out and remember "facts" that agree with our currently held views, and ignore and forget "facts" that disagree. I don't mean this is relevant to you personally. It happens to everyone. At any rate it's possible that US based papers reported in terms that you have forgotten.

Another possible factor is that The Guardian is a UK based site and doesn't have the same angle of subjectivity in its reporting that US based news does, and reports things differently

The great advantage that we English speaking countries have is that we can access news and opinion from a wide number of separate countries, who all report on major issues affecting other English speaking countries. For example, newspapers and web sites in the USA, Eire and India have commented on the UK Brexit scenario and offered a greater variety of opinion than you would get from reading only the UK papers.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
We are all subject to cognitive biases that mean we tend to seek out and remember "facts" that agree with our currently held views, and ignore and forget "facts" that disagree. I don't mean this is relevant to you personally. It happens to everyone. At any rate it's possible that US based papers reported in terms that you have forgotten.

Another possible factor is that The Guardian is a UK based site and doesn't have the same angle of subjectivity in its reporting that US based news does, and reports things differently

The great advantage that we English speaking countries have is that we can access news and opinion from a wide number of separate countries, who all report on major issues affecting other English speaking countries. For example, newspapers and web sites in the USA, Eire and India have commented on the UK Brexit scenario and offered a greater variety of opinion than you would get from reading only the UK papers.

Yeah that is true, English is a really useful language to know in general, im pretty glad I learned it.

 Ashiraya wrote:
If I see that insanely stupid 'sweden yes' meme one more time...

What an awesome segue back to the topic of the thread.

You hate that meme and apparently so do the Swedish police.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/06/world/europe/swedish-police-investigate-over-40-reports-of-rape-and-groping-at-2-music-festivals.html

Swedish Police Investigate Over 40 Reports of Rape and Groping at 2 Music Festivals

One of the acts, Mumford & Sons had this to say...

“We’re gutted by these hideous reports,” the British rock band Mumford & Sons, one of the headline acts at the Bravalla Festival, said in a Facebook post. “We won’t play at this festival again until we’ve had assurances from the police and organizers that they’re doing something to combat what appears to be a disgustingly high rate of reported sexual violence.”

It's a shame that it has taken so long for police to act on behalf of their citizens' safety. It's more a shame that some people don't care enough to respect others or behave as guests in a country that took them in during their time of need.

That's a strange statement; surely the thing to combat would be the sexual violence itself, not the rate of reporting?

I still don't see the issue with having such a high report rate. Isn't that good? There are so many more crimes that go unreported in other countries and thus are treated as non-existent.

It's fairly obvious their issue isn't that people report it at a high rate, but that it's happening at a high rate.

Is it happening at a high rate? Does anyone know the average rate of sexual assaults at rock festivals? For all we know, 40 is a very low figure.

It was established earlier in the thread that in Sweden lots of crimes are reported as rape that in the UK for example would be reported as sexual assault.

Again we run into the problem of the differences between crime reporting in different countries.

As also established earlier in the thread, there's no evidence that it's muslims or immigrants doing it in particular.

I think we'd both probably agree anything over 0 is unacceptable*, but as for a "high" metric I don't know. To the band this was apparently a high number. I just found the suggestion that their issue was the fact they're reported versus the fact they happened, to be pretty much absurd.

*I understand we live in the real world where achieving this will most likely never happen.

 Kilkrazy wrote:
Is it happening at a high rate? Does anyone know the average rate of sexual assaults at rock festivals? For all we know, 40 is a very low figure.

I don't think it's tracked in the US, though it definitely happens. If I recall there were dozens of sexual assaults and a bunch of rapes at Woodstock in 1999, though that was awhile back.

 Breotan wrote:

Swedish Police Investigate Over 40 Reports of Rape and Groping at 2 Music Festivals

One of the acts, Mumford & Sons had this to say...

“We’re gutted by these hideous reports,” the British rock band Mumford & Sons, one of the headline acts at the Bravalla Festival, said in a Facebook post. “We won’t play at this festival again until we’ve had assurances from the police and organizers that they’re doing something to combat what appears to be a disgustingly high rate of reported sexual violence.”

It's a shame that it has taken so long for police to act on behalf of their citizens' safety. It's more a shame that some people don't care enough to respect others or behave as guests in a country that took them in during their time of need.

As a Mumford and Sons fan, good on them.

I don't know if 40 is a lot or not, but it certainly seems high. I also recall a few instances where chicks were "crowd surfing" and were groped, and the performer spotted it and had the groper(s) removed from the concert. Good on them, too.

I got groped at GenCon one time by an older chick while I was taking a picture with her hot friend in costume. I grabbed a handful of ass in return. Nice lady. She likes knitting, red lingerie, and grabbing strangers cocks at conventions.

When is the wedding?

 Ouze wrote:
When is the wedding?

Dunno, but I hope she found some nice young man that likes to be groped by strangers in public.

 kronk wrote:

I got groped at GenCon one time by an older chick while I was taking a picture with her hot friend in costume. I grabbed a handful of ass in return. Nice lady. She likes knitting, red lingerie, and grabbing strangers cocks at conventions.

Well, to be fair to her, you were in full Mad Max villain attire complete with enormous cod-piece

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 kronk wrote:

I got groped at GenCon one time by an older chick while I was taking a picture with her hot friend in costume. I grabbed a handful of ass in return. Nice lady. She likes knitting, red lingerie, and grabbing strangers cocks at conventions.

Well, to be fair to her, you were in full Mad Max villain attire complete with enormous cod-piece

Captain Kirk, actually, but that's really the same thing.

 kronk wrote:

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 kronk wrote:

I got groped at GenCon one time by an older chick while I was taking a picture with her hot friend in costume. I grabbed a handful of ass in return. Nice lady. She likes knitting, red lingerie, and grabbing strangers cocks at conventions.

Well, to be fair to her, you were in full Mad Max villain attire complete with enormous cod-piece

Captain Kirk, actually, but that's really the same thing.

Kirk getting grabbed in the crotch really is more along the lines of authentic cosplay than it is sexual harassment.

 d-usa wrote:

Kirk getting grabbed in the crotch really is more along the lines of authentic cosplay than it is sexual harassment.

Ehh. Yes, I do see this a lot. When someone gropes a woman it's sexual assault, if a woman gropes a man it's harmless. She's just being nice. But ofc a real man is just fine with being groped, at least if the perpetrator has tits.

Since that is the level of analysis we have reached, it's time to lock the thread.