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Interestingly, both of the generic missile character options are male, while the generic melee character options are female. The melee hero is a hag, which makes sense. The melee lord a female dreadlord, so that was obviously just a design decision.
The missile hero is an assassin, which is an odd choice, imo (on the tabletop, assassins best known for popping out of hiding in an otherwise bland unit, and meleeing an enemy character to death). We'll see how that works out.
The generic casters are all Sorceresses only. No males (which fits with the fluff before the last army book).
Edit - nm. Found the Cauldron.
Edit 2 - /sigh
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How are people not going nuts over this. Norsca officially revealed! Army roster is up in another video and also on reddit. Imagine what they could do for smaller races who didn't get armies. Imagine what they could do adding a completely new "main" faction army that is completely their own creation. After they add in one or two more smaller factions I think we should give them a shot to make their own unique mark on total war fantasy history for all the amazing effort. I love mammoths and other large prehistoric creatures, and they get werewolves. They look the closest to Beastclaw Raiders from age of sigmar in theme and style and I love it. I can't wait to see ogre kingdoms in game 3.
Saw this. I find it somewhat amusing that the completely unexpected Norsca roster has been revealed, and the Skaven are still under wraps.
I'm curious about their implementation. I'm guessing that they'll be located north of the Dark Elves? There are tribes of Chaos-worshipping humans up there, but the only time they've ever mattered to the lore is when Morathi recruited them to help attack Ulthuan. Technically, there are Norsca in the first Warhammer TW. But I can't inagine them introducing a new playable faction at launch that starts in the Old World while everyone else starts in the New (or Ulthuan).
There's a Steam page up for the Norsca expansion, with some information. Apparently they'll be located north of the Sea of Claws, which is in the Old World. So they'll still be an Old World faction. That will limit their interactions somewhat with the races in Warhammer II (I'm guessing they'll only really be a worry for the High Elves - at least initially). Also, the Norsca DLC is listed for pre-purchase on the page for the first game (it's not listed on the page for the second game, which is probably good because otherwise people who were purchasing the second game might buy it by accident). There are big banners on both the Warhammer TW page, and the Norsca DLC page, advising people that the DLC is free with the pre-purchase of Warhammer II.
They're primarily a raiding faction, and can gain access to "hunts" that send them after powerful creatures located in different parts of the world. But despite the fact that they're a raiding faction, if they take a faction capitol, they can build a settlement there and gain access to some of that faction's technology.
Can you play as Norsca in Total War: WARHAMMER II?
No, it is DLC for the first game only.
However, shortly after the launch of the second game, we will be releasing an extra combined campaign map, which is a whole new, massive campaign accessible for free by owners of both first and second games. Norsca will also eventually be playable in that combined campaign map.
The Norsca DLC will be available on August 10, including for people who have pre-purchased Warhammer II, which will not be available until September.
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I was sort of hoping for Dogs of War or Kislev. I suppose this will do...
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Aren't there Norse colonies in the New World as well? Lorewise there are/was.
I thought I saw some Chaos-ish banners when they did the campaign map flyover.
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nels1031 wrote: Aren't there Norse colonies in the New World as well? Lorewise there are/was.
I thought I saw some Chaos-ish banners when they did the campaign map flyover.
They'll presumably be a different faction, kind of like how the current Skaeling faction is essentially Norse, even though it's not the "Norsca" faction.
VictorVonTzeentch wrote: Well the Norsca Faction gets the abilities to set up Raider Settlements in coastal regions, probably the towns with Ports.
Ah, thanks, just read it on the steam page. Was workblocked.
I just purchased the DLC faction, already purchased WH2. Did I feth up?
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Interestingly, both of the generic missile character options are male, while the generic melee character options are female. The melee hero is a hag, which makes sense. The melee lord a female dreadlord, so that was obviously just a design decision.
The missile hero is an assassin, which is an odd choice, imo (on the tabletop, assassins best known for popping out of hiding in an otherwise bland unit, and meleeing an enemy character to death). We'll see how that works out.
Prior to Age of Sigmar, Assassins could take missile weapons. They came with shurikens as standard but could take Repeater Handbows like Corsairs.
The generic casters are all Sorceresses only. No males (which fits with the fluff before the last army book).
Sorcerers did exist, they just had to avoid Malekith.
Some of the bigger families of Naggaroth kept Sorcerers around as otherwise they would owe favors/wealth to the Sorceress Covens...and since Sorcerers would be killed by Malekith or his followers it wasn't exactly a case of Sorcerers posting an ad in the yellow pages under "Wizard"...
Interestingly, both of the generic missile character options are male, while the generic melee character options are female. The melee hero is a hag, which makes sense. The melee lord a female dreadlord, so that was obviously just a design decision.
The missile hero is an assassin, which is an odd choice, imo (on the tabletop, assassins best known for popping out of hiding in an otherwise bland unit, and meleeing an enemy character to death). We'll see how that works out.
Prior to Age of Sigmar, Assassins could take missile weapons. They came with shurikens as standard but could take Repeater Handbows like Corsairs.
Yeah, but shooting things usually wasn't their primary role on the table top. I'm not entirely certain how a "missile hero" works in battle, but it looks like shooting things is going to be its primary battlefield role in TW.
The generic casters are all Sorceresses only. No males (which fits with the fluff before the last army book).
Sorcerers did exist, they just had to avoid Malekith.
Some of the bigger families of Naggaroth kept Sorcerers around as otherwise they would owe favors/wealth to the Sorceress Covens...and since Sorcerers would be killed by Malekith or his followers it wasn't exactly a case of Sorcerers posting an ad in the yellow pages under "Wizard"...
"Under wraps" presumably means "not an obvious part of the big raiding party that you just sent to the Old World to collect some slaves."
It's weird that they'd add Norsca, who apart from an interesting rage mechanic will probably play a lot like Chaos. Or maybe that's why, it's a fairly simple add on to make.
I'm hanging out for Ogre Kingdoms and Khemri personally.
Eumerin wrote: Yeah, but shooting things usually wasn't their primary role on the table top. I'm not entirely certain how a "missile hero" works in battle, but it looks like shooting things is going to be its primary battlefield role in TW.
Witch Hunters and Waystalkers are missile heroes. They work by having high damage missile attacks, so you look to use them to snipe enemy characters.
In both cases though they are also okay in melee combat, I expect the assassin will be as well. In fact with some stealth mechanics I expect assassin will work much the same as the Waystalker, but with reduced range offset by superior melee.
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nels1031 wrote: Aren't there Norse colonies in the New World as well? Lorewise there are/was.
I thought I saw some Chaos-ish banners when they did the campaign map flyover.
You're thinking of Skeggi. A Norscan settlement/port off the coast of Lustria. It wasn't really a chaos thing as anybody could dock there, like the Empire as long as they paid a fee. Not really a place for a Norscan invasion to start off.
nels1031 wrote: Aren't there Norse colonies in the New World as well? Lorewise there are/was.
I thought I saw some Chaos-ish banners when they did the campaign map flyover.
You're thinking of Skeggi. A Norscan settlement/port off the coast of Lustria. It wasn't really a chaos thing as anybody could dock there, like the Empire as long as they paid a fee. Not really a place for a Norscan invasion to start off.
There are also some Chaos-worshipping humans north of the Dark Elves. I don't know that they've ever "officially" been stated to be Norse, though. AFAIK, the only role they ever played in the fluff was when Morathi recruited them for the last attack on Ulthuan (the one that included the Battle of Finuval Plain). They got left behind as the Dark Elves returned home. Those humans are undoubtedly part of the regular Chaos attacks that the northern watch towers guard against. But the Dark Elves are more concerned about the daemons that are part of those raids than the humans.
nels1031 wrote: Aren't there Norse colonies in the New World as well? Lorewise there are/was.
I thought I saw some Chaos-ish banners when they did the campaign map flyover.
You're thinking of Skeggi. A Norscan settlement/port off the coast of Lustria. It wasn't really a chaos thing as anybody could dock there, like the Empire as long as they paid a fee. Not really a place for a Norscan invasion to start off.
There are also some Chaos-worshipping humans north of the Dark Elves. I don't know that they've ever "officially" been stated to be Norse, though. AFAIK, the only role they ever played in the fluff was when Morathi recruited them for the last attack on Ulthuan (the one that included the Battle of Finuval Plain). They got left behind as the Dark Elves returned home. Those humans are undoubtedly part of the regular Chaos attacks that the northern watch towers guard against. But the Dark Elves are more concerned about the daemons that are part of those raids than the humans.
They weren't Norse.
They were a tribe called the Kul and the description had them closer to Mongols/Huns than Norse.
Incidentally, Steam is currently running a sale on all GW products. TW Warhammer is currently 66% off. And all of the DLC (except for Norsca, of course) are currently 33% off.
Eumerin wrote: Incidentally, Steam is currently running a sale on all GW products. TW Warhammer is currently 66% off. And all of the DLC (except for Norsca, of course) are currently 33% off.
As part of the GW-wide "Skulls for the Skull Throne" sales event on Steam right now, Krell has been released for Warhammer: Total War as a free download. Creative Assembly has confirmed (both through phrasing in the release announcement, and more directly on the official forum) that Krell is the "Old Friend" that was listed on the release map as the final release for Warhammer: Total War.
Just started up a beastmen campaign after the first one went badly early on. I've been away so long i forgot beastmen could use the beast paths. Oddly instead of going left of my position at the start i went right and went from tobaro and attacking till i somehow managed to get to savage orc territory (using beast paths to escape enemy armies and cross seas). I've done significant damage to border princes (2 territories left) and i'm seriously endangering the main savage orc faction (one territory left).
The cat and mouse gameplay of horde factions is really tough.
I realize this is more the first game than the 2nd but i figure this thread could use more than the same person posting 3 times in a row.
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Norsca's live today. I don't have it yet, so I can't comment on it. Plus, Steam just started downloading the 2.4GB update for it.
Also, since it's Creative Assembly's 30th Anniversary, they've made 30 Regiments of Renown available for free. You'll need to log into Total War Access to claim them, though.
I am interested to see how Norsca and the new patch will affect my next game, I'm assuming that despite not buying the new faction I will still be able to fight them much like the other DLC's?
I like that the Empire AI is also getting some buffs in the form of a full province to start with, they have always been wiped off the map halfway through any game I play!
